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[Northern Sun]

I mostly choose to play male characters if given the option, but having to play a female protagonist has and will never stop me. In fact, my canon warden happens to be female.

[tmp7704]

Zanallen wrote...

Should have used this picture:

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[TEWR]

Filament wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

If anything, Tidus was made to look more Asian than female.

Yeah, I don't see what's so female about Tidus in that pic. <_< I mean, Kuja, okay maybe.

I never played FFIX, but I know of this Kuja of which you speak. He did kinda look female.

[Zanallen]

tmp7704 wrote...

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That isn't a true example because that character is, in fact, a transvestite.

[tmp7704]

Zanallen wrote...

That isn't a true example because that character is, in fact, a transvestite.

I just thought it fit in the context of "creatures born to scare the **** out of us mortals".

(although it should be said, Bon-chan is awesome~

[Zanallen]

tmp7704 wrote...

I just thought it fit in the context of "creatures born to scare the **** out of us mortals".

(although it should be said, Bon-chan is awesome~

Ah, I probably would have used Ivankov then.

[tmp7704]

Well, that would be like bringing a WMD to a knife fight. A slight overkill.

[nightscrawl]

I think it would be more accurate to frame this queston in terms of someone who is new to a franchise or a game company. Longtime Bioware fans will know you will have the option of picking your gender, so I don't think the marketing as far as that is concerned matters much overall. Also, those are the types of fans who see that Bioware is making a new fantasy RPG and will buy it simply because they are loyal to the brand from their own previous experience. Marketing largely has no affect on those people, other than to inform them that a new game exists. However, I might guess that players new to the company, or those who came in on DAO who were swayed by the marketing might be more of a valid target for your question.

In terms of marketing alone, there probably is data to suggest that marketing to males specifically is more worth the investment, and has been for many years. If that weren't the case, there wouldn't be such a huge deal being made about ME3 femShep and her being used for the first time in marketing/box art.

I'm not the focus of your question, but I will say this as a female gamer and long time Bioware fan. I was interested in Dragon Age: Origins after seeing the ads on TV in the fall of 2009. I thought they looked totally awesome. It wasn't until after I had the game that I knew it was even made by Bioware, makers of one of my favorites: Neverwinter Nights. I knew it would be awesome before even installing it.

[FedericoV]

krissyjf wrote...

No, sadly my computer is over 10 years old and cannot handle PC games like that. I am planning on purchasing a new computer in the near future and TW1 and TW2 are on the top of my list to buy and play. I've heard good things about the games, so I am really looking forward to playing them.

TW2 is coming to consolles too. I would like to know because Geralt is a strongly sexualized male charachter and I do not believe that a woman could enjoy playing him that much (and that would back my point about RPG doing better allowing the choiche to the player).

[Tony_Knightcrawler]

I wouldn't mind.

[Firky]

FedericoV wrote...

I would like to know because Geralt is a strongly sexualized male charachter and I do not believe that a woman could enjoy playing him that much (and that would back my point about RPG doing better allowing the choiche to the player).

Well, I'm female and I loved both Witcher games. I wasn't turned off by playing Geralt in the slightest. He's gorgeous. And I think I got every card in the first game. And, slept with a whole bunch of women in the second. (Although, I also guess that there are a proportion of female players who may not dig that.)

I did feel somewhat alienated in the Witcher games because there was casual references to - bad stuff happening to women - and lots of - not so nice to women - language but, ultimately, it was true to the setting. Not turned off by playing Geralt, but vaguelly unsettled by some of the other content.

[DamnThoseDisplayNames]

I would like to know because Geralt is a strongly sexualized male charachter and I do not believe that a woman could enjoy playing him that much

In my experience, female roleplayers play males a lot, particulary strongly sexualized.
Sometimes it's a forced choice, though. As one of them explained to me, it goes something like.. "our world, just like worlds of myth and fiction, is still a world of active men.. and I tend to play males a lot, because.. even we, girls, sometimes just can't see a female as an appropriate protagonist.. and even more, if you play female, males would't see you as important character [in game], and are biased agains your character in their roleplaying ".

Take that any way you want, it's just an interesting fact about how one particular girl (a LARPer) feels. But I tend to trust her experience.

Modifié par DamnThoseDisplayNames, 18 octobre 2011 - 07:50 .

[Xewaka]

I bought and played Dragon Age 2 because I actually believed the Devs in the forums telling us that it wouldn't be such a huge departure from Origins as the marketing was making it out to be, not because of Hawke's sex in the box (as a matter of fact, my only run of DA 2 was with a female). I can honestly say I couldn't care less about the sex of the person pictured in the box.

Modifié par Xewaka, 18 octobre 2011 - 09:15 .

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

FedericoV wrote...

I would like to know because Geralt is a strongly sexualized male charachter and I do not believe that a woman could enjoy playing him that much (and that would back my point about RPG doing better allowing the choiche to the player).

Female here. Played and enjoyed both Witcher games (TW2 has to rank among my favourites).

So I guess you're wrong.

[ladyshamen]

As another female gamer, I do agree somewhat with Firky. Geralt himself was not a problem. It was other content in the game. TW1- references to sheep?! That should be a turn off to ANYONE! I play as both male and female, and straight as well as gay. I like to see how different the game feels and plays as different characters.

[FedericoV]

Ok, I'm happy to see that Geralt was not a problem for female gamers. Gues you are more open than me . Thanks for the feedback.

[DA_GamerGal]

casadechrisso wrote...

The problem with most other games is just like with DA2 the marketing, box design and all that. Taking Fallout New Vegas as an example, I've always tried to convince some of my female gaming friends to play it because I'm absolutely sure they'd love it if they tried, but hell, the game box looks like yet another shooter aimred at hyperactive kids, so the lasses don't touch it. <_<

My point exactly. I almost didn't buy DA:O because of what I saw (or didn't see) on the box design. I assumed it was just another game designed exclusivley with male gamers in mind. But I ended up getting it several weeks later, because I can't seem to resist games where I can battle dragons and other evil creatures and save the world. Give me a sword and I am a happy lady.

[Mr.House]

My only issue with Geralt is I don't like him as the PC. He would be more interesting as a npc, plus I've read the books and I've never cared for him, so it has nothing to do with his gender. It just has to do with him being a crappy PC to play. I still love TW2 but Geralt is my big issue.

[Ianamus]

I would have still bought Dragon Age 2 if It had been marketed with a female character, and I have no problem playing games where the protagonist is a female character.

I prefer games where you create your own character, because then I feel that it is my character, rather than one that a developer has made. To me, gender does not really matter with pre-set characters- I won't get any more playing a male Lara Croft than I would the female, although I do prefer to play male characters when I am allowed to create my own (like Hawke/Shepard)

One of the things that convinced me to buy the Mass Effect games was that you could play a female. I never did play as a female, but the fact that you were given the choice showed me that it would be the type of game I'd be interested in.

[Sylvianus]

nightscrawl wrote...

I think it would be more accurate to frame this queston in terms of someone who is new to a franchise or a game company. Longtime Bioware fans will know you will have the option of picking your gender, so I don't think the marketing as far as that is concerned matters much overall. Also, those are the types of fans who see that Bioware is making a new fantasy RPG and will buy it simply because they are loyal to the brand from their own previous experience. Marketing largely has no affect on those people, other than to inform them that a new game exists. However, I might guess that players new to the company, or those who came in on DAO who were swayed by the marketing might be more of a valid target for your question.

You 're right. The question on this board is useless. We know the bioware's games and we buy them for their content. The question is important if asked to the new players, those who didn't  play bioware's game, rpgs, etc.

I found the question interesting, I asked the question to some console players, some friends, and my brothers. Their answer was no. I think if they would only see the marketting with a female protagonist, they wouldn't bother to seek if they can play with a male protagonist, because, they don't know what is a rpg, this style of game must interest them before, in my opinion. So they wouldn't buy it.

I had some positive answers, with humour as well if the female protagonist is sexualized, like Lara croft or the heroine of Bayonetta. And I don't think that's what most female players want.

Me, It wouldn't bother me as well.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 18 octobre 2011 - 03:22 .

[DA_GamerGal]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Depends, would there still be an option to play as a Male Character (like there is an option for females in reverse.)

So I take it you wouldn't feel comfortable playing as a female character if there wasn't an option to play as a male?

I understand that if you are playing a RPG that you would want the option to choose gender, otherwise it's not much of a RPG. But what if the genre of the game is an action/shooter/adventure game? Would you as a male gamer, play it if the protagonist was female?

What if the game is a RPG, with choice of gender, but the company chose to promote the game by using only the female protagonist in all their trailers, box design, ect.... would that make a difference to you? Would you not want to purchase the game because of that?

[DA_GamerGal]

[quote]DamnThoseDisplayNames wrote...


[quote]Why most game developers, including BioWare, seem to develop games that are centered around male protagonists, or are written with the male version in mind. [/quote]
Why do you care?
Most game developers are stupid mooks anyway, and games like that actually suck. Leave them with their overmusculated gorillas alone, and play good games. Games with cool female protagonists like Longest Journey, Syberia, Beyond Good and Evil, Zanzarah, Drakan, Portal, they're better games than CoD anyway.


Let's not sink to name calling, here.

Game developers are talented people that hopefully, do their best to create and develop the best games possible, in whatever genre of games they design for.

[Asch Lavigne]

I think a big problem with a female protagonist is sometimes the game can be viewed as "girly." Doesn't at all mean it is girly, but it does happen sometimes, I'm talking to you FFX-2. I think a game like DA or ME marketed with a female character wouldn't have that problem though.

I suppose I don't really mind but I like having the choice of choosing my gender. Now if they would just go back to letting us choose a race in DA again.

[Arken]

krissyjf wrote...

My point exactly. I almost didn't buy DA:O because of what I saw (or didn't see) on the box design. I assumed it was just another game designed exclusivley with male gamers in mind. But I ended up getting it several weeks later, because I can't seem to resist games where I can battle dragons and other evil creatures and save the world. Give me a sword and I am a happy lady.

When I first saw a T.V. trailer for Dragon Age it didn't feature the male poster boy. It was a collage of scenes from the Sacred Ashes trailer. There was no dialogue just action. I couldn't distinguish a lead among any of the characters.

When I saw the T.V. trailer I assumed each character was meant to represent someone I could play as. I didn't think there was a marketed male character. I felt deceived when I played the game and found out it wasn't an action/adventure. I still enjoyed Origins, but the T.V. trailer made me think it would be on the level of the Assassin's Creed games with character designs, better combat, and a big adventure. I didn't know it would be a strategy based RPG.

The point being marketing showed a me a bunch of characters, male and female, kicking butt so I assumed it might be a game worth checking out. When I read about Origins I thought it would work like Ninety-Nine Nights with each Origin giving me a different protagonist and parallel storyline. In the end though the game turned out to be completely different than advertised and I enjoyed it nonetheless.

I bought the game expecting to play as both male and female characters since in the trailer featured male and female characters as pretty much equals. I assumed the story would follow each of the characters from the trailer. I was more than ready to play as a female and looked forward to it since Morrigan looked pretty bassA in the T.V. trailer.

www.youtube.com/watch


That trailer made it seem like a game for both males and females. Although Malcolm talking during the trailer wasn't needed. His voice was actually more of a distraction than anything else. He also didn't do anything cool during the trailer so I didn't think he was that important.

www.youtube.com/watch

The Dragon Age II trailer is horrible by comparison. It focuses completely on male Hawke. It never gave that feeling of Hawke being on a team and is solely advertised Male Hawke like he was the protagonist. In my opinion the best thing for an RPG to do it to advertise multiple characters and not identify which one is the main character. Just show them all being epic and people will buy. No need to focus on gender.

The trailer also filled me with false hope of the game being about Hawke fighting a Qunari invasion. Instead that was a single quest.