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Is Neverwinter Nights a better coop experience than Neverwinter Nights 2? Plus other questions.


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Lich Larloch

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Hi guys.

Which game would a friend and I have more fun playing coop? Should we play through the OC's or go straight to modules? If the OC's are bad or not as good for the coop experience can you please reccommend some modules that would be good for two people coop that will take us to max level. Thanks guys.

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Elhanan

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I cannot rate NWN2, as I have yet to aquire it. But I am a long standing fan of NWN1, and think it is the best game I have seen.

I enjoyed all the OC's, though the original took me several months of stop & start to get thru it all. And HotU is not for multi-player.

For mods, I recommend the Aielund series; terrific storylines, humor, great companions, etc.

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Lich Larloch

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Hey, that Aielund series looks so sweet. Thanks for recommending it.

Do you, or anyone else, know how I can add PRC to these modules? The updater that came with it does not work. It says there are files that cannot be merged. Aborting. Should I use the 3.5 beta 2 of PRC if I want to player multiplayer?

Thanks again guys.

Modifié par Lich Larloch, 17 octobre 2011 - 06:24 .


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Shadooow

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All NWN OCs should be able to play with more players though mostly only first player can speak to the plot characters. I played HotU with my friend and everything worked (untill we both died in some tower and quitted :D).

I highly suggest not to instal PRC if you want to play with more players. They all have to install same PRC version as well and even then its possible there will be many issues. PRC is fine and possible to install into any module but rather for singleplayer.

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NWN 1 is a better co-op experience than any game. Done properly it is as good as it gets...

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olivier leroux

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Depends on what you're looking for. Is it a good story? Good 2-player action? Leveling till max level without having to switch modules in between?

Whether the OC has a good story is debatable, some say yes, some say no. But as far as I know it won't allow you to reach the max level. The Aielund Saga is one of the very few module series that are also epic with regard to reaching max level, I think, and it has a good story, IMO.

If story isn't your main interest though and you're more interested in exploration, vast open worlds allowing free roaming and player to player interactions, as well as dungeon crawls, challenging combat and loot, you could also go online and play on one of the many persistant worlds. Those are like MMORPGs without the "Massive", and most of tehm allow characters to level up till level 40 or even (way) beyond.

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Elhanan

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You may wish to try Neverwinter Connections; a highly recommended site for small gatherings pf Players and DM's.

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Both games are worth it IMO.

Considering the low cost for what you get now, think about getting both.

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Lich Larloch

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Thanks for all your answers guys. More opinions are still welcome.

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everyone plays nwn1 instead of nwn2 You will have to check servers out.There are some kick butt modules you can play with a freind though.

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Lich Larloch wrote...
Which game would a friend and I have more fun playing coop? Should we play through the OC's or go straight to modules?

I and most others never accepted Neverwinter Nights 2. It just feels like a more clunky game while NWN1 is more streamlined and feels like a more solid "platform" for multiplayer.

I'd like to recomend you to go directly on the persistent world servers (PW's). Action, roleplay, pw action, pw story...choose what you want....its all good....

While you can still play co-op with your buddy on theese servers you also have a good chance to find some new buddies...

If you need help with finding a good PW just holler...

Modifié par SuperFly_2000, 25 octobre 2011 - 11:15 .


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Lich Larloch wrote...

Thanks for all your answers guys. More opinions are still welcome.

LL you may not have realized it but your question is potentially a hot topic as you ask people to compare the two games and there has been hisorical friction brought on by a variety of somewhat IMO assinine reasons.  You even start to see it creep into the small number of responses you've received so far....

As any other game, both NWN and NWN2 have their good and bad points.  As someone who has spent considerable time with both, I strongly suggest you get both games... both combined will only cost you around $30 after all, which is a price you cannot beat for the hours and hours of enjoyment you will get out of the many MP environments you will have access to.

I would also suggest checking out Neverwinter Connections.

All the best.

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jmlzemaggo

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NWN 1 is better than NWN 2, by far.
What? No, I never played NWN 2. So what?

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Have no idea how to set up a comment on this so apologies for jumping in.

Firstly NWN probably has the edge due to ease of download, installations and that there are a huge number of independent mods.

I would always start on the OC (inc NWN2) as it will give you a better idea of the game.

As for characters. Starting off with a fighter and a cleric is good. For the latter I use magic and trickery as domains.

Might be worth downloading one of the character build mods. This will give you an idea of what feats you can use and spells.

Whne you go to NWN site you can search for specific mods, what level to ebgin with, heavy on combat and so on.

When you are looking at mods to download, check out authors comments about whta skills are required and other hints to the game.

The Aielund Saga is probably the best mod but if you check out the top 100, that will also give you an idea of the very good mods.

Finally for me and for the community out there. Hope somebody can help. In NWN2 I am unable to use arrows and page up/down. What do I need to do in game options to allow this.

Cheers


Eric

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Lich Larloch wrote...

Hi guys.

Which game would a friend and I have more fun playing coop? Should we play through the OC's or go straight to modules? If the OC's are bad or not as good for the coop experience can you please reccommend some modules that would be good for two people coop that will take us to max level. Thanks guys.


If its a choice between the two, i'd say NWN1 has the advantage, and i mainly do NWN2 things. It's easier to use, and the official campaigns did not completely ignore it. Has less system resources required as well ( lot less work being done graphics wise in the older game as well, but NWN2 really is not the best optimized game ). Also has a lot longer period of support and more content by a large margin, enough so that you really could just ignore any other game and just play new modules in NWN1.

But i'd say if you ignore NWN2 you're missing out on a very good game as well, with it's own modules and features which are completely different, and its also much better than at release, especially if you take advantage of the extender that skywing did for the game. The OC should not be done in coop play, the MOTB is iffy and SOZ is much more ideally designed for it as it's a sandbox game. Custom modules which are listed as MP compatible are probably a better experience as i don't think the developers even tried play testing MP at all. Some of the community content is just amazing, with the Zork recreation, bouncy rocks module set in ravenloft, well there is a lot of things out there worth trying which will make your jaw drop.

To me its less about the tools used, than about the vision of the modules author, his execution of the concept, and how well he used those tools to tell his story.

For specifics i'd review the following two lists, if something excites your fancy, well you can get NWN1 on Direct2Drive and NWN2 on steam and have both for less than the original cost of the first expansion of either game. Those lists tend to have info which shows which modules are better due to vault rankings or awards.

Ultimate NWN1 Module List

All NWN2 Modules Together

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Lich Larloch

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Cool. Thanks for that module list. I hadn't seen that one yet.

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I feel that with NWN2 the camera angles they give you or allow you to do doesn't stack up like NWN1. I strongly felt it made playing the game most awkward and if it had NWN1 camera modes it would be a most enjoyable game but due to the lame camera features it makes NWN2 a burden to play. If you can overlook the lame camera angles of NWN2 then its not bad but I think the storyline is better in NWN1.

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Both games are great for MP. I lean towards NWN because it's quicker to build modules, but if I had time I'd use NWN2 for most of my campaigns.

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I would have to go with NWN1 , NWN2 you all have to stay in the same area when in a party (Unless there some way to turn that off) and conversations are a pain. l still playing with NWN2 in lan games so I might not know some of the tricks to make it more fun in a lan game, but NWN1 we can go where we want, when we want (like everyone going to different shops and I got pretty much all the 3.5 D&D integrated into NWN1 now.

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Lich Larloch wrote...



Do you, or anyone else, know how I can add PRC to these modules? The updater that came with it does not work. It says there are files that cannot be merged. Aborting. Should I use the 3.5 beta 2 of PRC if I want to player multiplayer?

Thanks again guys.


Have you tried the PRC forums?
http://prc.athasreborn.com/index.php


you may get more help on there. :)

Modifié par omen_shepperd, 10 janvier 2012 - 08:00 .