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[Sajuro]

Saphra Deden wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

 Him favoring peace was his motivation for demanding exile.  He never said a thing about expecting the geth to be aware of that trial. 

"I feel this message needs to be sent."

To the other Quarians to tell them that what Rael Zorah did was unacceptable.

[Swimming Ferret]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Or you know, they could send something a little smaller and hail the Citadel as they approach. They could have done this a long time ago before the Heretics attacked.

Can't find a flaw in that plan.

[Robuthad]

Either way, in ME3 somebody is going to get Rannoch back somehow. After all, we go there in-game and can gain the Quarians trust along with, possibly, the Geth too.

One of ya's gonna have to shake or im not leaving

[aiDvEoN]

jreezy wrote...
I suggest you look up the definition of genocide before applying the term to what the Geth did to the Quarians.

Systematically wiping out 99.9% of a species meets any definition.

[Robuthad]

Saphra Deden wrote...

You know, I love Koris.

When asked if the quarians and geth can live in peace his response is, "I don't know, but I think we all deserve to find out."

I wish I could ask him this in response: "What if the answer is 'no'?"

This^

Wonder what he would say if it was no. Which of the admiralty would he side with then? If any

[atheelogos]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Or you know, they could send something a little smaller and hail the Citadel as they approach. They could have done this a long time ago before the Heretics attacked.

What makes you think they'd even get to the Citadel? They'd have to get past fleets of ships that guard relays leading to the Citadel. Chances are they would have been destroyed long before they got to their destination, even if they had a msg of peace.

You have to remember organics don't trust them at all. For all they know that small Geth ship could have been on a sucide run. I mean really this is akin to letting a North korean ship pull into a Virginia port. 

[SkittlesKat96]

It doesn't seem right that the Geth want to be so isolated, I kind of don't trust them.

Chances are they do want peace and just want to be left alone, but we know how dangerous of an enemy the Geth can be. And we saw how Sovereign managed to persuade some of the Geth population to help him...

Not saying that the Geth shouldn't be allowed freedom or to exist, but I think its possible they have a hidden motive (doesn't matter how big or small) and they should integrate with the rest of the 'Citadel society' (or whatever you call it)

[Robuthad]

Let them live by themselves in their Technological Singularity. If they dont want to do anything with the rest of the galaxy and choose to have no effect, let em be. We shouldnt force anyone to submit if they just want to live by themselves in a far useless corner of the Galaxy

[Robuthad]

Yes, but the Geth want to give back the homeworld, hence their constant care taking for 300 years. Once they have constructed their Techno Singularity they wont need a planet and can live on stations of their own construction in some random corner of space, far removed from the other species

[SkittlesKat96]

Robuthad wrote...

Let them live by themselves in their Technological Singularity. If they dont want to do anything with the rest of the galaxy and choose to have no effect, let em be. We shouldnt force anyone to submit if they just want to live by themselves in a far useless corner of the Galaxy

Maybe if they give up the Quarian homeworlds and they can't be considered a threat then I think they should be allowed to live isolated from other civilizations.

I just mean that there needs to be an all clear first that they won't cause trouble in the future.

We saw how Sovereign managed to get a small portion of the Geth population (the Heretics) to help him, and the Heretics were dangerously close to using a virus on the rest of the Geth to make them be servants to Sovereign.

The Geth are also capable of creating a very powerful empire and military, if the Geth suddenly for some strange reason leave their isolation to attack Citadel space and other civilizations then that would be pretty bad...

Plus like I said, maybe the Geth have some unknown motive that Shepard and no other group knows about yet. But I guess we'll just have to see when we play ME 3

EDIT: I doubt they have an unknown motive though, Legion claims that the Geth only want to be isolated and stay away from civilizations, and the Geth don't seem like the type to lie, plus Legion seems like an expository device to explain the fact that the Geth want peace. But maybe the Geth just want peace with themselves.

Although the Heretics DID use deceit to try and infect the Geth with a virus...of course though that might have also been the Reapers doing. Maybe the Reapers control the Heretics? Its all a bit confusing.

EDIT 2: Ideally I think it might be possible to convince the Geth to not live in isolation assuming they don't strongly wish to be left alone.

Modifié par SkittlesKat96, 19 octobre 2011 - 08:34 .

[Robuthad]

Somewhere in ME2 Legion talks about how making a military move against organics is a foolish endeavor for the Geth to take because they don't care about material possessions and the like. They don't wish to control other areas or be controlled. They just want to be left alone to live without being bothered

[SkittlesKat96]

Robuthad wrote...

Somewhere in ME2 Legion talks about how making a military move against organics is a foolish endeavor for the Geth to take because they don't care about material possessions and the like. They don't wish to control other areas or be controlled. They just want to be left alone to live without being bothered

True, I don't think the Geth would do anything bad against organics by their own will but I mean that it needs to be assured that the Geth won't be taken control of (by Reapers or other)

[Robuthad]

Probs wont be the Reapers as the Geth are a possible ally in ME3 but idk what other force there is out there that could turn them. And now they posses that virus to re-write crazy stupid Geth that go off the radar.

[General User]

Robuthad wrote...
Let them live by themselves in their Technological Singularity. If they dont want to do anything with the rest of the galaxy and choose to have no effect, let em be. We shouldnt force anyone to submit if they just want to live by themselves in a far useless corner of the Galaxy

If the region behind the Perseus Veil has all the natural resources needed for the geth to maintian their standing and build a Dyson sphere, then it is arguably one of the MORE valuable regions of the galaxy.

Robuthad wrote...
Yes, but the Geth want to give back the homeworld, hence their constant care taking for 300 years. Once they have constructed their Techno Singularity they wont need a planet and can live on stations of their own construction in some random corner of space, far removed from the other species

The geth don't need a planet now.  What they do need are natural resources, transportation networks and the ability to defend the same.  They will still need those same things when and if they finish their mega-project (btw, does anyone know the timeline on that?  Years?  Centuries?  Millenia?  Eons?).  Those same things are exactly what the geth would be giving up to one extent or another if they allow quarians to return to Rannoch.

Modifié par General User, 19 octobre 2011 - 08:49 .

[Robuthad]

Except Legion has already said the Geth have been waiting for the Quarians to return. So clearly having Rannoch isnt important to them anymore, nor was it ever.
The Geth aren't like the Batarians slavers or general a-holes who will bust up some planet and take whatever they need anytime. The Geth arent currently hurting anyone building their stations or using the rest of the galaxy's major resources enough to affect anything.
They already clearly have plenty of ships and such but they don't care to have ships once they have built their Singularity.