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[Sheylan]

Lets go down the list.

-She uses blood magic, so she can have as many sustains active at one time as you could ever want(currently I am running 5 but there are more I believe.)

-Since she dosn't wear armour, she does not have to put ANY points into WP. She can just pump her con and magic to pretty absurd levels.

-Because of the above two points she can become nearly as durable as a sword and board warrior, and MORE tanky than anyone else in the game.

Her ONLY weakness as a mage is not being able to access the Creation tree(and thus missing out on the heal and party buffs there), but her massive damage and tankiness+comepletely FREE sustains(since she dosn't use mana anyways) makes up for it comepletely.

Just build her with a strong repertoire of damage spells (I like Frost and Lightning myself), fill out her unique skill tree, Grab Rock armour and Arcane shield for more tankiness, and Elemental weapons for group damage, and she becomes insane.

[Eudaemonium]

Yes, Merrill is at least one of the best party members, if not teh best one. She's less good now they nerfed the blood-magic buffs on items, but still pretty tanky. Before she could actually be made invincible.

[caradoc2000]

Merrill's strength is 10, while my warrior Hawke has a strength of 50+. Obviously she is not the strongest party member.

[Sabotin]

Sorry, Anders is still on top. Vengeance and creation trees, higher damage, plus he has more synergy with equipment. All of his weaknesses can be easily covered (mana potions and skipping dialogue )

[Forst1999]

You can build Anders as a better DPS mage, but i think he is too fragile. If things go bad he is most likely the first one to go down. I prefer Merrill, but i don't think she is the single best companion. Before the last patch maybe, but i think the companions are very balanced right now..

[Kail Ashton]

Forst1999 wrote...

You can build Anders as a better DPS mage, but i think he is too fragile. If things go bad he is most likely the first one to go down. I prefer Merrill, but i don't think she is the single best companion. Before the last patch maybe, but i think the companions are very balanced right now..

This. lol and a delicate breeze knocks Anders the F out, he's a pain in the ass to babysit (Varrik is the 2nd worst, he draws hate like a troll saying "lolz bethsaduh battar dan biow@rz!!" )

[lionalio87]

That's depends on which standard you define. If you want, your own character can be the strongest one, or if you only want your Hawke to stay behind and support your team, so the strongest one should be in the front line with high DPS and durable.

For me, Merrill is likely a supporter than an attacker, she has many offensive spells but it should be associated with the offensive action from her allies to get the combos. Anders, he is not appropriated to stand in the front line, i'm pretty sure.

[nuclearpengu1nn]

lol

[CuriousArtemis]

Hmmm, I barely use Merrill, but maybe I will now? I'm starting a F!Hawke x Merrill playthrough so she'll be involved more for sure.

However, I find that the most devastating and deadly combination is Fenris, Aveline, and Anders. Fenris and Aveline just murder and destroy non-stop while Anders heals them. Voila!

[Eudaemonium]

motomotogirl wrote...

Hmmm, I barely use Merrill, but maybe I will now? I'm starting a F!Hawke x Merrill playthrough so she'll be involved more for sure.

However, I find that the most devastating and deadly combination is Fenris, Aveline, and Anders. Fenris and Aveline just murder and destroy non-stop while Anders heals them. Voila!

I suppose you're playing a rogue. If you were also a mage you could do the terribly cheap but amazingly effective Dual Haste Trick. =P Now *that* is non-stop murder.

Modifié par Eudaemonium, 19 octobre 2011 - 08:03 .

[AreleX]

anders > merrill > varric

[TEWR]

I tend to give Merrill a decent amount of willpower and then pump her full of magic and Con so that she can switch between willpower and constitution as a source for her spells.

I also make her a Galvanist and an Elemental Master, because having her do Firestorm and then Tempest is amazing, especially when I also have Mage Hawke, Anders, and Varric doing other area of effect spells/talents.

[frustratemyself]

Willpower is wasted on bloodmages, better off putting the points into magic or constitution.

[turian councilor Knockout]

frustratemyself wrote...

Willpower is wasted on bloodmages, better off putting the points into magic or constitution.

Nope it isn't it is better to use blood magic spells while in Blood magic and you regular spells with your mana other wise you will just waste heals and potions to heal you and con isn't a problem if you just use a few blood talent spells, few points in con, medium will and high magic is ideal and besides there are some high con trinkets if you must have con.

Modifié par turian councilor Knockout, 19 octobre 2011 - 12:24 .

[Darkov]

I turned her into a Support/Healer (modded), simply because I don't like Blood Magic. Even so, she's pretty effective still, takes a lot to kill her.

[AreleX]

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

frustratemyself wrote...

Willpower is wasted on bloodmages, better off putting the points into magic or constitution.

Nope it isn't it is better to use blood magic spells while in Blood magic and you regular spells with your mana other wise you will just waste heals and potions to heal you and con isn't a problem if you just use a few blood talent spells, few points in con, medium will and high magic is ideal and besides there are some high con trinkets if you must have con.

what

merrill with 230-250 health never should have to drop out of blood magic, ever

stack sustains for free

MAG + CON merrill with rock armor is nigh indestructible

WIL on BMs is a waste. hawke can pre-buff with +1 items to meet all gear reqs without having to invest a single point in WIL, and merrill has no such issue, she should be all bm, all the time. hawke has self heals while BM is active, and if merrill is getting beat on badly enough to not be able to hold blood magic for 99.9% of fights, you've got other problems

this isn't even up for debate, if you're going BM or speccing merrill, MAG + CON is the way to go. this has been proven time and time again throughout the course of the game, by myself and others, even with the nerfing of blood conversion items

you can, of course, do what you like, but if the discussion is what's *best*, it is MAG + CON

Modifié par AreleX, 19 octobre 2011 - 02:00 .

[TEWR]

I disagree. Being able to switch from a mana pool into a large amount of constitution is what's best imo. It allows for Merrill to dish out a lot of damage without being detrimental to her health, and then she can then switch to blood magic when she's run out of mana. She's then able to dish out even more damage.

My Merrill on my last playthrough had 350 health, 230 willpower, and 60+ points in magic. She was also equipped with Malcolm's Honor.

[Wulfram]

1 point of con powers the same amount of spells as 2 or, if Merrill is friended, 3 points of willpower. And that's not counting the reduction in effectiveness of willpower from sustains, and the benefits of blood magic boosting items. And of course more con makes Merrill less squishy.

Unless you're really stacking the sustains there's going to be at least a bit of mana which she might as well use up before activating the blood magic, though.

[Abispa]

I'm still going to give Anders the edge. I neglected his offensive skills during my first couple of play throughs and had a revelation when I made him an offensive mage. Before the blood mage fixes Merrill could be near invincible, but she still kicks ass. Andres, Merrill and Fenris (probably the best "automatic" killer in the game), plus my rogue Hawke make for some short fights.

[FJVP]

If Beth wasn't so restricted I think that she would take the first spot, considering that she has access to both the Creation and Entropy trees and that she's also specialized as a Force Mage later on. It's been a while since I've played the game though, so who knows.

[Forst1999]

Actually i think you have a point, FJVP. End-game/DLC Bethany is great. Her armor brings a massive health bonus, so you don't have to worry about her being a squishy mage. And Gravitic Ring and Pull of the Abyss make Force Mage the best mage specilization in my opinion. But well, you can't use her all that often.

[naledgeborn]

Yes, other than Hawke, Bethany is the best mage.