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[lil yonce]

brettc893 wrote...

AAAAAND It looks like game owners won't be able to download the content seperately for cheaper, they instead have to rebuy this new edition of the game! Fantastic!

That is rotten. I won't being playing it now.

[Shepenwepet]

I love how the article downplays the fact that you have to buy the whole game again. Ooh, unlimited ferrystones? Does that warrant a purchase?

I wasn't really planning on getting Dark Arisen, because DD long ago had run its course for me. But this is just an insult. Why not let people who bought your game on release have the option to enhance their experience without shelling out money for something they already have? I don't understand how Capcom could possibly think fans could react well to this.

It's good if you've never played the game, sure, but... come on. Why would you push away the fans who already bought the game, and would therefore be the ones most likely to be interested in the expansion?

Oh, Capcom, you so crazy.

[brettc893]

Shepenwepet wrote...

I love how the article downplays the fact that you have to buy the whole game again. Ooh, unlimited ferrystones? Does that warrant a purchase?

I wasn't really planning on getting Dark Arisen, because DD long ago had run its course for me. But this is just an insult. Why not let people who bought your game on release have the option to enhance their experience without shelling out money for something they already have? I don't understand how Capcom could possibly think fans could react well to this.

It's good if you've never played the game, sure, but... come on. Why would you push away the fans who already bought the game, and would therefore be the ones most likely to be interested in the expansion?

Oh, Capcom, you so crazy.

Let's start a petition. Because, you know, those always work out.

God, so much butt hurt over this I can barely walk...

[legion999]

So the only way to get unlimited ferrystones (which is fast travel right?) is to buy both versions of the game?

If so I think I'll wait before buying Dragon's Dogma.

[The Hierophant]

Seriously Capcom? I didn't buy Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 when they pulled that same exact **** last year, and now history repeats itself.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 23 janvier 2013 - 08:21 .

[Shepenwepet]

brettc893 wrote...
Let's start a petition. Because, you know, those always work out.

God, so much butt hurt over this I can barely walk...

Lol, in all honesty, I don't care, I'd just like to understand Capcom's reasoning. 

[The Hierophant]

Shepenwepet wrote...

brettc893 wrote...
Let's start a petition. Because, you know, those always work out.

God, so much butt hurt over this I can barely walk...

Lol, in all honesty, I don't care, I'd just like to understand Capcom's reasoning. 

Money.

[Shepenwepet]

Well, yes, I got that, I just can't understand how they thought it'd work. You'd think they'd reward fans instead of..well, this.

[The Hierophant]

Shepenwepet wrote...

Well, yes, I got that, I just can't understand how they thought it'd work. You'd think they'd reward fans instead of..well, this.

They took note that a good majority of sheeple still bought UMvC3 after the vanilla MvC was released a few months earlier. Basically Capcom believes that their customers are stupid, and that they can get away with anything.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 23 janvier 2013 - 08:34 .

[deuce985]

Wow. Capcom remains one of the worst milk'n'dime publishers in the world. I love the game but I'm not buying the DLC out of principle. I'm not letting them bend me over again like they did with that horrible DLC locked to the disc. I've never seen a publisher do this before? Sell DLC but make you buy the entire game again with it? Lol ok...

Modifié par deuce985, 23 janvier 2013 - 09:18 .

[The Hierophant]

I wouldn't be surprised if Capcom shuts down the vanilla DD's server in an effort to force players who aren't willing to repurchase the game into doing just that.

[Eternal Phoenix]

@brettc983

Well since Bethesda, Bioware, EA, Ubisoft and Lionhead Studios get away with it...I don't see the god of re-releases passing up on such a chance. I mean is this really that shocking? It IS Capcom after-all. They're not exactly Larian Studios or CD Projekt. They're just as bad as all the other big western/eastern companies.

Glad I sold my copy though. I can pick this title up when it drops to £15 meaning I lose no profit and technically I get the expansion for free.

Might wait longer though just in case they release any more new editions...

Probably will skip altogether if Dark Souls 2 comes out this year.

Edit:

If fact I see no real reason of getting Dark Arisen. It looks like more-or-less the same from what could be experienced in the main game. Even the enemies are but simple re-skins and tbh after two playthroughs through Dragon's Dogma, it pretty much becomes boring as is the norm for open world sandbox games which are linear in terms of story and quests.

We'll see what Dragon's Dogma 2 holds. If it's more-or-less the same like DD then you can count me out.

In other news, the developers of Gears of War are giving GoW1 away for free in new copies of Judgement:

http://www.nowgamer...._game_free.html

Never played the series but just wanted to post this as an example of a studio being somewhat generous (even though GoW can be picked up for £5 now). I know it's marketing strategy on their part but it's still some goodness. Capcom are too tight to ever consider doing something like this. By buying Dark Arisen, you're repurchasing the original game along with it.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 24 janvier 2013 - 02:17 .

[SeismicGravy]

“…owners of the original Dragon’s Dogma will receive 100,000 Rift Crystals, unlimited Ferrystones and the Gransys Armour Pack consisting of six brand new costumes for free, upon purchasing Dragon’s Dogma: Dark Arisen.”

From - Here.

I know what you're thinking: What, I own Dragon's Dogma 1 and I have
to pay £20 to get this - the same as a complete newcomer? Well yes you
do.But.You can carry characters and saved data into Dark
Arisen, and as an owner of the original game you'll be given gifts:
100,000 Rift Crystals, unlimited Ferrystones and a Gransys Armour Pack
that has six new costumes.It doesn't sound like the greatest reward for your loyalty, but it's better than a kick in the teeth.There's a new video for Dark Arisen to set the scene.

From - Here.

It's something I suppose.......

Modifié par SeismicGravy, 24 janvier 2013 - 03:29 .

[wickedgoodreed]

The Hierophant wrote...

Shepenwepet wrote...
Lol, in all honesty, I don't care, I'd just like to understand Capcom's reasoning.

Money.

Capcom is going with "technical difficulties."

For what it's worth:

I get it guys. We went round and round with the team on this topic as it would have been a preferred option from our standpoint too. As it turns out, I'm sorry but unfortunately there were major technical limitations that couldn't allow for a digital upgrade path. The original game was just not designed to be expanded (no hooks in the original code) and so a full-game delivery mechanism was the only option.

We also tried to explore a number of mechanisms to try and otherwise put this full product in original owners hands at a discount digitally but we would have run afowl of a few first party policies (not any first party's fault, t'was our fault).

So instead, we're packing more than $20 worth of value in digital rewards for existing users:  100K rift crystals (which in DDDA have a LOT more uses than they did in DD vanilla) the Gransys armor pack and the unlimited Ferrystone. We hope this will be a sufficent  "thank you" for being part of the first wave of Dragon's Dogma fans given the development limitations we had.

Thanks again for your continued support and I hope to see you in Gransys in April.

Christian Svensson
Corporate Officer/Senior Vice-President

Source

Apparently, all of the DLC from the original DD will be included in Dark Arisen as well. Which I suppose could add to or soften the blow depending on whether you've already purchased them too. Personally, I never did, but still...not really happy about the whole thing as a matter of principle.

Modifié par wickedgoodreed, 25 janvier 2013 - 06:15 .

[brettc893]

wickedgoodreed wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

Shepenwepet wrote...
Lol, in all honesty, I don't care, I'd just like to understand Capcom's reasoning.

Money.

Capcom is going with "technical difficulties."

For what it's worth:

I get it guys. We went round and round with the team on this topic as it would have been a preferred option from our standpoint too. As it turns out, I'm sorry but unfortunately there were major technical limitations that couldn't allow for a digital upgrade path. The original game was just not designed to be expanded (no hooks in the original code) and so a full-game delivery mechanism was the only option.

We also tried to explore a number of mechanisms to try and otherwise put this full product in original owners hands at a discount digitally but we would have run afowl of a few first party policies (not any first party's fault, t'was our fault).

So instead, we're packing more than $20 worth of value in digital rewards for existing users:  100K rift crystals (which in DDDA have a LOT more uses than they did in DD vanilla) the Gransys armor pack and the unlimited Ferrystone. We hope this will be a sufficent  "thank you" for being part of the first wave of Dragon's Dogma fans given the development limitations we had.

Thanks again for your continued support and I hope to see you in Gransys in April.

Christian Svensson
Corporate Officer/Senior Vice-President

Source

Apparently, all of the DLC from the original DD will be included in Dark Arisen as well. Which I suppose could add to or soften the blow depending on whether you've already purchased them too. Personally, I never did, but still...not really happy about the whole thing as a matter of principle.

That... actually makes me feel much better about all this and, if it is as substantial an upgrade as they say, I'll pick it up. Not day one, but I'll get it.

[lil yonce]

brettc893 wrote...

That... actually makes me feel much better about all this and, if it is as substantial an upgrade as they say, I'll pick it up. Not day one, but I'll get it.

If you can believe them.

[The Hierophant]

Youth4Ever wrote...

brettc893 wrote...

That... actually makes me feel much better about all this and, if it is as substantial an upgrade as they say, I'll pick it up. Not day one, but I'll get it.

If you can believe them.

<caving in> After reading wickedgoodreed's post my outrage, and indignation is draining away like a sumo sweating in a suana.

Naw i'll wait, and see as Capcom are fart loving tricksters.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 26 janvier 2013 - 01:32 .

[Shadow Fox]

40$ that seems a little steep for an expansion imo especially after the flak they got for UMVC3 but still people bought it so Capcom's going to milk them.


Edit: just saw it contains the original game as well so it's better than what both Beth and Bioware used to do atleast.

Anyway I kinda hoping for some kind of melee staff to be included in this.

Modifié par Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke, 25 janvier 2013 - 11:34 .

[SeismicGravy]

Ok, so I need some help.....

How exactly to you fight the Ur-Dragon? I know through the DD wiki that you have to attack the purple areas on his body, but for some reason my lvl88 Arisen could not even make a dent, even though I was high on Liquid Vim and spamming the rapid fire move (FiveFold Flurry or something like that) with a stage 2 bow that is actually stronger than the bow you receive from killing Grigori. Was I doing something wrong?

[The Hierophant]

Hire another ranger along with two support mages/sorcerors who have no offensive spells, and whose only enchantment is Holy Affinity as that's the Ur-Dragon's weakness.

Holy enchantment + Liquid Vim + the ranger's TenFold Flurry/Hundred Kisses spam should greatly increase your damage output when attacking Ur's weakspots. Also keep an eye out for his wing tips as i remember that they will glow too, and you will actually have to climb the dragon to reach some spots so remember to keep Ur's wiki page open as it has a diagram that maps out the weak spots.

Also make sure that you have unlocked the warrior's, and fighter's strength augments along with the warrior's augment proficiency.

 Plus here's a video that should also help.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 26 janvier 2013 - 12:25 .

[slimgrin]

I wish Capcom would throw us PC gamers a bone and bring this thing to PC, dammit.

[The Hierophant]

There probably needs to be an online petition the likes the internet has never seen before in order to get Capcom to reconsider their stance on a port.

[lil yonce]

The Hierophant wrote...

Youth4Ever wrote...

brettc893 wrote...

That... actually makes me feel much better about all this and, if it is as substantial an upgrade as they say, I'll pick it up. Not day one, but I'll get it.

If you can believe them.

<caving in> After reading wickedgoodreed's post my outrage, and indignation is draining away like a sumo sweating in a suana.

Naw i'll wait, and see as Capcom are fart loving tricksters.

I'm going to trade in the copy of DD I have ASAP and use a $10 dollar off coupon at Gamestop to see if I can get the price in the target range of about $20 dollars or less -- the cost of the dlc. I'll buy it then. But I won't forget this Capcom! I won't buy a vanilla game of yours again.

Modifié par Youth4Ever, 26 janvier 2013 - 02:01 .

[LPPrince]

I've never played Dragon's Dogma so I take it I'm better off for waiting?

[lil yonce]

LPPrince wrote...

I've never played Dragon's Dogma so I take it I'm better off for waiting?

Heck yes. Don't buy it until the $40 dollar game+expansion comes out. Don't buy the vanilla game!