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I'm with Deuce on this one. The new version of the game will contain all the DLCs, plus the expansion and the game. It's a GOTY that doesn't allow us to purchase the expansion separately. I hate it. I'm forced to sell my game and get the upgraded version and yet I already wasted $40 on DLC alone for this P.O.S.

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I'm definitely buying used as well unless they find some clever way to lock the expansion content out. I am sick of this crap. I bought the game full priced to support a new IP and this is what they attempt to pull just to rake in more money.

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I'm very much with Dustie on this one. When Dark Arisen was first announced I was incredibly excited. Now that the details of not only the price point but the fact that I can't simply buy the expansion have come out, I can't say I'm all that pleased. I love Dragon's Dogma a ton but this? No it doesn't sit right with me at all. Sure we're getting a supposedly retooled version of the original game but how does that justify basically spending $100 (between buying full retail on the original release and $40 on this version) for that? Punishing early adopters is something that shouldn't happen as it will more than likely make people think twice about buying on release.

Modifié par CalamityRanger, 02 février 2013 - 04:06 .


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I made the decision to sell my game and never spend a penny for Capcom ever again. They lost me as a customer. I paid for all the DLCs and now they want me to give me a disk which contains all the DLCs for free and the expansion which can't be sold separately? Nope. Unnacceptable. They'll never refund me, but they'll never get my trust back.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 30 janvier 2013 - 12:31 .


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deuce985 wrote...
It's not the same thing. Dark Souls gave me the option to buy their DLC separate since I already owned the game(which I did). It was only $10-$15. The Prepare to Die Edition is for people  who don't already own the game. Capcom isn't giving us the option to buy this expansion separate. If they did, it probably would be priced around $15. Instead, they're trying to sugar coat it by giving extra rift crystals into the normal game(which are completely useless) to try and make it sound like people who already own the game get incentives. DD standard edition will drop under $20 when this releases. They should have an option to buy just the expansion at $15-$20 but they don't. Every freaking game in existence does this so they don't screw original buyers over. That's why I'm not buying their excuse it's a technical problem.


Well Larian Studios said the same with Divinity 2: The Dragon Knight Edition. The expansion was released seperate for the PC version but Xbox 360 owners had to repurchase the entire game again to get the expansion. This edition was charged at £40. Meanwhile I see Dark Arisen going for quite cheap so while I agree that Capcom are scammers with their re-releases, in this case, I see no problem other that owners of the standard game will need to sell that copy (unless they care to own the two same games).

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Still not taking any health from the Ur-Dragon. :(

Lvl97 Assassin, armed with a stage 2 Fey Whisper and dragonforged B*stard Sword and with a strength rating of 1970 during night time hours (Augments are Clout, Vehemence, Bloodlust, Ferocity, Attunement and Vigilance).

I'm missing something obvious somewhere.......

Modifié par SeismicGravy, 31 janvier 2013 - 05:43 .


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*Update

I may have had the biggest most single retard moment ever.

It appears that I've been fighting the online version of the Ur-dragon for the past week, without realizing it. This would explain why I was having so much trouble with it.

Turns out that to fight the offline version I have to be disconnected from Xbox Live.

I feel so ridiculous right now.........

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SeismicGravy wrote...

*Update

I may have had the biggest most single retard moment ever.

It appears that I've been fighting the online version of the Ur-dragon for the past week, without realizing it. This would explain why I was having so much trouble with it.

Turns out that to fight the offline version I have to be disconnected from Xbox Live.

I feel so ridiculous right now.........

Stick with the online Ur Dragon as the damage you dish out accumulates along with all the other players who's fighting it at the moment, and the rewards are better when dealing the killing blow.

Remember that if you're seeing purple blood when hitting the Ur you're doing damage. Also it may not look like your doing any damage, but you are as the Ur has so many health bars.

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So as someone who hasn't got Dragon's Dogma, should I just buy Dark Arisen instead?

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legion999 wrote...

So as someone who hasn't got Dragon's Dogma, should I just buy Dark Arisen instead?


Thats what everyone says, yeah. Unless you want to protest their DLC practices and not get it at all.

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So, wait a minute, I've not been playing DD for a while, what is Dark Arisen again? I thought it was supposed to be DLC. It's a new game?

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Dark Arisen is a DLC that's being released in a few months for Dragon's Dogma.

Problem- in order to get the DLC, you have to repurchase the game. Dark Arisen only comes as part of a $40 disc release of Dragon's Dogma and all its other DLCs. Sort of a Game of the Year type thing.

You can't in any way purchase the DLC by itself, such as a download.

And that pissed a lot of people off.

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Well, that does sound like a massive pain in the ass. But hold on a second, does Dark Arisen add anything new to the actual game? And maybe I'm misunderstanding something here, why do you need a new copy of DD to play it?

But anyway, since my Xbox is a piece of crap, I'm gonna sell my copy of DD, and re-purchase it on PS3, so I guess having to buy the game a second time isn't so bad for me.

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Aww that's BS. I was looking forward to Dark Arisen too. I guess now I won't get to play it if you have to buy the whole game again, which I definitely will not do.

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Just realized something.

The current value of DD at my local GAME is about £10 to £15 (not sure what that would be in dollars). Assuming Dark Arisen is released at around £20 to £25 doesn't that mean that technically it's only worth about 1200 Microsoft points?

Modifié par SeismicGravy, 03 février 2013 - 11:57 .


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New enemies trailer

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I like the salamanders as they look like a pain in the @ss to deal with, the mimic adds more fun for treasure hunting, and that minotaur @ 0:47 almost made me reconsider my stance on getting Dark Arisen after considerable price drop.(will is faltering)

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Got a Dark Souls vibe from that new trailer. The treasure chest containing a creature in that eats you? Come on, you can see that's ripped straight from Dark Souls. The Minotaur? Come on, that's the Taurus demon on steroids.

And finally, a true giant (did you see, the characters are only as big as his foot!) to fight.

I hope the difficulty in this expansion is equal to how the difficulty is in the first few hours of the game and post-dragon.

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Eh, im not sure its sarcasm or not Elton.
Mimics and Minotaurs are in a lot of other games already? And they really look different then Dark Souls even better i think.

I agree on the difficulty party. They can mix up some tough different monsters for added diff.

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How/when do the other skin pigments and dyes appear in the Rift Shop? All I'm seeing are the vermillion face paint and red hair dye.

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Cyberarmy wrote...

Eh, im not sure its sarcasm or not Elton.
Mimics and Minotaurs are in a lot of other games already? And they really look different then Dark Souls even better i think.

I agree on the difficulty party. They can mix up some tough different monsters for added diff.


Alright, the minotaur, okay but the mimic in the treasure chest? I know other games have had them but I can't help but feel that Dark Souls has re-populaized them.

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So, Deep Down, is it Dragon's Dogma 2?

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A made a thread for Deep Down here for anyone who wants to discuss it:

http://social.biowar.../index/15957207

I doubt it's Dragon's Dogma 2. It's got elves in as a race and is called a "new IP" by Capcom. Further more it was revealed by that Ono guy (the lead developer of the Street Fighter series) and not by the lead developer of Dragon's Dogma which just further supports my view that it's a new IP.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 23 février 2013 - 02:48 .


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Reviews are in for Dark Arisen with all agreeing that it's worth its value but as I said when I first saw it, the Dark Souls influence is apparently very high with one reviewer going as far to call it "Dark Souls 1.5" and so far all reviews cite Dark Souls in the same way.

http://www.eurogamer...k-arisen-review

http://metro.co.uk/2...ls-1-5-3662722/

http://www.oxm.co.uk...box-360-review/

It seems one of the major gripes (the game getting too easy some hours in) has been addressed as the expansion is supposed to be quite difficult. The OXM reviewer says that his LV 75 sorcerer died quite a few times (and it should be noted that the expansion area opens up at LV 45) and that enemy encounters are all the more better. The exploration is more similar to that of Dark Souls with there being short-cuts opening up quicker routes to previous areas as well as there being more secrets and "secret" areas to find so to speak.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 23 avril 2013 - 03:07 .


#1250
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I pretty much lost all desire to play the game after I heard about how the DLC was locked to a brand new copy of the game.

While I didn't get the game prior(obviously), it just doesn't seem fair to those who did.

So *shrugs*