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[Shepenwepet]

happy_daiz wrote...

So in that room right before the Fallen City, we were greeted by two fire drakes. Shinon decided to go jump off a cliff, and Briana got chomped, so I ran back up to the rift stone, and brought them back. When we went back out into the room, the half-dead drakes were replaced with wyverns at 100% health. /facepalm

When he's not mining, he's BASE jumping. Not really that good of an idea when your pockets are full of rocks and you don't know what a parachute is.

Oh, and P.S.

I know, right? DAT MANEATER.


But yeah, Shinon knows he looks good. He's no stranger to doing little turns on the catwalks.

Dammit, that's gonna be playing all day in my head now.

[happy_daiz]

^ That song goes right along with Team Sexy™.   And Shinon does seem to be overflowing with confidence, that's for sure. He said something that made me laugh last night, and I can't remember what it was. I hadn't heard it before, though. Ohhh, that's going to bother me!

I dressed Gabrielle in that yellow number, and rested, so she should be wearing it now if you hire her. I then put her back in the green thing, and attempted to proceed. I'm not sure how things go from semi-manageable to 'forgetaboutit' that quickly in BBI. I felt like I was playing Demon's/Dark Souls in that last stint.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 22 mai 2013 - 04:23 .

[JerZey CJ]

Yeah, meant Mystic Knight, though Magick Archer is also a favorite of mine and was what I picked on my first character. Mystic Knight is looking pretty awesome though from the looks of it's higher end skills. This is my first time actually playing it, as I usually passed up on it for the Magick Archer ,Assassin, or Ranger.

[Carcharoth42]

I may have changed Briana's clothing to better fit in with Team Sexy. Only had to switch two pieces to make her more risqué and it doesn't alter her look that much.

At least there isn't a, "Suprise! Capra Demon!" moment.

[Shepenwepet]

I think the best place to get group shots is in the pawn guild, go to the rift, exit it, and you have a few seconds where your group is all facing the camera.

Sadly, this was before Briana's costume alteration. She seemed a lot more camera shy after she shed her chain mail.


Shinon, however...


And this Gorecyclops asked to join Team Sexy. I think he's got what it takes.

I find that my Arisen looks like some She-Ra reject when she's dressed like that.

Modifié par Shepenwepet, 22 mai 2013 - 07:58 .

[happy_daiz]

Shepenwepet wrote...

I think the best place to get group shots is in the pawn guild, go to the rift, exit it, and you have a few seconds where your group is all facing the camera.

Sadly, this was before Briana's costume alteration. She seemed a lot more camera shy after she shed her chain mail.

I'm just in awe. Team BSN is hawt. Those abs! 

I'll have to refresh/recruit Briana when I get home. Can't wait to see her!

How do you get them to raise their arms like that?

Modifié par happy_daiz, 22 mai 2013 - 08:41 .

[Shepenwepet]

Gabs is jumping down from an upper platform. I'm using the "come" command, which is down on the d-pad. I think.

[happy_daiz]

Ahh, gotcha. You have the gift of good timing. I, on the other hand, keep forgetting to snap photos! Mostly I think of it after an enemy is dead, and usually their body is half gone by then. Waa.

It would seem you have more oil on hand than I do, too. For some reason, we're always scrounging for that. And large nuts. Sounds silly, but it's true. Gotta make my Balmy Incense!

Modifié par happy_daiz, 22 mai 2013 - 08:51 .

[Shepenwepet]

Some of my favorite shots have been in battles when it freezes and focuses on something or someone. My favorite shot EVER was when Shinon was about to turn to stone and it zoomed in on him. (my Arisen was gonna die too, I think, I notice the screen is awful red)

[happy_daiz]

^That is a cool shot.

What is your Arisen wearing on her head? I've seen a couple of snapshots with that headgear, but haven't seen it in-game yet.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 22 mai 2013 - 09:00 .

[Carcharoth42]

Hood of Shadow. I think it's lvl 2 cursed gear for rogues.

[happy_daiz]

Ahh, good to know.

Oh, and as it turns out, I don't have the Boots of Oblivion. I have the Gauntlets of Oblivion.
And I actually do have the full Trophy Armor set. I'm not sure how I missed that.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 22 mai 2013 - 09:13 .

[Carcharoth42]

Every time I see the Boots of Oblivion, I think, "evil hammer pants" and imagine Shinon singing U Can't Touch This from a rooftop in the fallen city... Just thought I'd share that.

[Eternal Phoenix]

There is another way to get pawns to face the camera. It takes quick action but when you talk to them, they don't move so you can pick them up, line them up and then talk to them where they will face the position where your character is. When Mercedes said the pawns were a disorganized lot she wasn't joking. I wish they followed DA companion protocol and lined up perfectly behind your character like you're an organized fighting unit. Also, a "wait here" order would be very welcome.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 22 mai 2013 - 11:28 .

[Shepenwepet]

It was a good night for screenshots. As always, click to enlarge. Some are much easier to see that way.

Shepenwepet wrote...
The elder ogres are going to go bonkers.

Look at that face. Come on. How perfect is that.

Here, Alynna and Gabrielle have a *moment*


And Team Sexy has become quite famous, even among BBI inhabitants. Here, Alynna was asked by this cyclops to take a picture of him and his favorite team member, Gabrielle.


Daimon is unable to withstand the sexy.

I keep forgetting to get shots of awakened daimon, this last time I actually remembered, but I'd run out of stamina just as he opened a rift portal. I never recovered, pawns went poof. Still killed him though... and got...


Framae Blades! WOOOOO! (Again, out of stamina, lol)


And here Briana demonstrates to Shinon what to do when a maneater tries to eat the arisen. It was all for naught as he'd left the room a while ago.

I HAD a good shot of just us ladies, but then Shinon ran up and grabbed Alynna from behind. I honestly don't know what was going on here.

I guess he couldn't stand being left out. Also, that's friggin' adorable.

[Carcharoth42]

Shepenwepet wrote...
The elder ogres are going to go bonkers.

Look at that face. Come on. How perfect is that.

I'd make that face too if I met Team Sexy.

I keep forgetting to get shots of awakened daimon, this last time I actually remembered, but I'd run out of stamina just as he opened a rift portal. I never recovered, pawns went poof. Still killed him though... and got...


Framae Blades! WOOOOO! (Again, out of stamina, lol)

Um, I mean... Cool knives you've got there.

And here Briana demonstrates to Shinon what to do when a maneater tries to eat the arisen. It was all for naught as he'd left the room a while ago.

This just became my new desktop background.

[happy_daiz]

^ Those are awesome! I especially love the one of Briana giving the Maneater the business (and Shinon too, if he had stuck around).

I did the pawn guild trick to snap a couple of group shots.

Uh-oh, where is Briana?



There she is! That girl's got some serious stealth skills.



We decided to go back to Bitterblack, and had just defeated some Eliminators and one of two Goreclops. I hear Gabrielle say, "We have triumphed", to see some high-five action going on.



Then we got to fight two wyrms, and their buddy (a Cursed Dragon) showed up. Yes, we were hiding in the area by the rift stone. I was trying to conserve curatives for the Fallen City. I'm a little ashamed.



After two more wyrms, eight eliminators, three living armors, and Death (who killed everyone I love, sob), somehow we got through the Fallen City, and into Daimon's chamber. Again.



After a very grueling fight, a freaking dragon head popped out of his chest (omg), and he had all new health bars! Somehow I missed that memo, holy crap. By then, it was midnight, and I had to get to bed. No way to save, and no more wakestones. Tonight should be interesting.

This is the only shot I got before seeing my insides.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 23 mai 2013 - 02:33 .

[Carcharoth42]

happy_daiz wrote...

After a very grueling fight, a freaking dragon head popped out of his chest (omg), and he had all new health bars! Somehow I missed that memo, holy crap. By then, it was midnight, and I had to get to bed. No way to save, and no more wakestones. Tonight should be interesting.

This is the only shot I got before seeing my insides.

This is the fight that caused me to invest in periapts and switch to the strider for boss hunting. I'd never needed them before and could handle anything the game threw at me. I was even in a similar situation to the one you're in now. All of my pawns KO'd, most of my curatives and wakestones gone. Couldn't even take off one health bar before I was forced to reload.

[happy_daiz]

^ Of course Strider is one of two vocations I haven't maxed or even used much at all. Maybe I'll go fart around in the Everfall for a bit tonight. I'll need to work up some gumption to go back into BBI, methinks.

I honestly can't believe how long it took me to kill those two wyrms, then go to FC and kill two more, plus their Ox Posse. The living armor we didn't even actually fight, because Shinon went cliff-diving again, and Briana nearly followed suit. Gabrielle had already expired on the ground, surrounded by Eliminators, because I didn't get to her in time. I did a suicide run between the living armor, and went into the rift. When we came out, they were standing in formation, and didn't move (darn).

So how many periapts, wakestones, etc. do you usually bring along when going to fight Daimon? I mean, there's a lot of road to cover between the outside path and his chamber. It seems like everyone sucks up every curative I give them, long before we get there. I've resorted to hoarding the stuff to myself, and sharing it as needed.

And I'm finally up over level 100 (102, actually). Yay, me.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 23 mai 2013 - 03:14 .

[Carcharoth42]

happy_daiz wrote...

^ Of course Strider is one of two vocations I haven't maxed or even used much at all. Maybe I'll go fart around in the Everfall for a bit tonight. I'll need to work up some gumption to go back into BBI, methinks.

I only used strider because it climbs faster than the other yellow classes and I didn't need the bow. Your magick archer would work just fine. The real purpose was to make Hundred Kisses as effective as posible. Opportunism, Arm-Strength, Proficiency, Clout, Adhesion and Leg-Strength were my augments with Hundred Kisses and Instant Reset being the only vital dagger moves.

I honestly can't believe how long it took me to kill those two wyrms, then go to FC and kill two more, plus their Ox Posse. The living armor we didn't even actually fight, because Shinon went cliff-diving again, and Briana nearly followed suit. Gabrielle had already expired on the ground, surrounded by Eliminators, because I didn't get to her in time. I did a suicide run between the living armor, and went into the rift. When we came out, they were standing in formation, and didn't move (darn).

When you get to the Fallen City you start on a ledge overlooking either an eliminator of a living armor. On the left is a building you can easily jump on top of. Spam Ninefold Bolt on everything if you don't want to run past it all. You don't have to lock on to a target to hit it either. As long as the main arrow hits, the rest will follow suit and the magick arrow has a very long range with no drop. That's very useful for killing whatever is guarding the door.

So how many periapts, wakestones, etc. do you usually bring along when going to fight Daimon? I mean, there's a lot of road to cover between the outside path and his chamber. It seems like everyone sucks up every curative I give them, long before we get there. I've resorted to hoarding the stuff myself, and sharing it as needed.

If I run past everything and ignore the pawns... 16 conqueror's periapts, 10 wakestones, 20 large mushrooms, 5 liquid vim, 5 smother sap, 5 placative brew, 10 harspud sauce and 5 of your prefered group healing potion. You might want to switch the conqueror's periapts out for demons if you want to increase magick damage instead. Or take both... Anyway, you'll use four of your periapts at a time since their effect stacks.

And I'm finally up over level 100 (102, actually). Yay, me.

<-Happy tears. Only 98 levels to go.

Modifié par Carcharoth42, 23 mai 2013 - 03:39 .

[Shepenwepet]

If you want, we could put clothes back on our pawns for a little while. That could help.

I usually bring 3-4 wakestones, one or two of which usually end up being used on the way.. There's also one you can pick up in the rotwood depository on the upper hallway in the two gorecyclops room, and one in daimon's room by the broken throne.

I never remember to bring curatives, although chances are I'll have picked up an auspicious incense on the way. My arisen has an augment that keeps regenerating health over time (slooooowly, but it really does help.) I don't really care about keeping pawn health up, (I know, I'm terrible) as a revival brings them back to half.

My strategy as a magic archer is this: as soon as the fight starts, fire off a ninefold bolt. If you notice it's doing no damage, as mine wasn't the first time, switch to basic attacks.If they don't do damage, run like hell and level up. Periapt popping may help here too.

Pick away at him until he tries to open a rift portal, shout "go" at your pawns and fire off a ninefold bolt. This will stun him, and your pawns will absolutely devour him when he falls to the ground. So... pretty much the same as normal daimon.

I had lots of trouble with Awakened's shadow-arm grab that he seems to do when you're a certain distance away from him. It did far too much damage, as my defense is pretty much all magical. As an archer, my instinct was to be far away, but I couldn't,because he kept spamming that and I couldn't dodge it and aim at the same time. Stay close to him and he doesn't seem to do it as much.

I don't climb on him because I'm terrible at it, but maybe that's something you aren't terrible at. I mainly stick to ninefold bolt when he's airborne and explosive volley when he's down or when my pawns are doing the climbing.

Hide behind pillars when he charges. Smough taught me well.



I'm quite sure the first time I fought awakened daimon I was level 120 or so, and periaptless I was doing very little damage. If you luck out and get a blackwing bow, you'll need no periapts to do decent damage in battles to follow. Gold rarefy that thing up, and you're set.

[happy_daiz]

Carcharoth42 wrote...
When you get to the Fallen City you start on a ledge overlooking either an eliminator of a living armor. On the left is a building you can easily jump on top of. Spam Ninefold Bolt on everything if you don't want to run past it all. You don't have to lock on to a target to hit it either. As long as the main arrow hits, the rest will follow suit and the magick arrow has a very long range with no drop. That's very useful for killing whatever is guarding the door.

I was on that building, very close to the living armor, pelting them with magick bolts, but they did absolutely no damage. And they didn't even break out of formation. I told Briana and Shinon to Go, and that's when Shinon did his leap of faith, and the rest is history. I'm guessing that if I ran back to the roof of that building, my bolts might actually do something, but I just wanted to get past them, and that part worked out nicely.

If I run past everything and ignore the pawns... 16 conqueror's periapts, 10 wakestones, 20 large mushrooms, 5 liquid vim, 5 smother sap, 5 placative brew, 10 harspud sauce and 5 of your prefered group healing potion. You might want to switch the conqueror's periapts out for demons if you want to increase magick damage instead. Or take both... Anyway, you'll use four of your periapts at a time since their effect stacks.

I wonder if I can carry that much stuff. Even with Sinew, I'm usually at Light or Average pretty quickly.

Shepenwepet wrote...
If you want, we could put clothes back on our pawns for a little while. That could help.

Hehe, that's ok. I like Team Sexy.

My strategy as a magic archer is this: as soon as the fight starts, fire off a ninefold bolt. If you notice it's doing no damage, as mine wasn't the first time, switch to basic attacks.If they don't do damage, run like hell and level up. Periapt popping may help here too.

Do you have a special ring or something to give you Ninefold Bolt? I only have Sixfold Bolt, and that's the 'improved' version, from the original Threefold Bolt.

I don't climb on him because I'm terrible at it, but maybe that's something you aren't terrible at. I mainly stick to ninefold bolt when he's airborne and explosive volley when he's down or when my pawns are doing the climbing.

I climbed on him, and everyone was saying to 'hit him in the head', but wasn't sure if I should be hitting HIS head, or the creepy dragon head. (I think they meant his head, hehe). I also found out the hard way that climbing on him while he was turning red was bad.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 23 mai 2013 - 04:00 .

[Shepenwepet]

happy_daiz wrote...
Do you have a special ring or something to give you Ninefold Bolt? I only have Sixfold Bolt, and that's the 'improved' version, from the original Threefold Bolt.

It does require a ring, yes. Magick Bowman's Band. They have a chance to improve sixfold bolt, explosive rivet and magical gleam.

No ricochet hunter improvements.

[Carcharoth42]

Forgot that not everyone has 100kg carrying capacity. If nothing goes wrong, you should only need 8 periapts and no healing items. But when doesn't something go pear shaped in BBI?

And going through speedrun mode sets the difficulty on your main save to normal... Wasn't expecting that. I have Selene and Barnaby's outfits though. Only took me 42 minutes, but I've seen 18 minute runs.

[happy_daiz]

100kg? Good lord, I would be in heaven with that.

Well, the good news is that I found a Moonbeam gem and a Macabre Sculpture that I apparently missed my first time through the Fallen City. Now I'm up to 12 sculptures, woo.

I might just use a Liftstone to go back to the entrance, switch some things up, and hang out in the Everfall tonight. I burned through most of our curatives in inventory the past couple of days, and need to acquire some more before we make that trek again. Ur Dragon, you're on my list.

I have never tried Speedrun. What exactly is it?