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[oknenah]

 My gamertag is: oknenah live

The strangest thing just happend...




...Death went and got himself stuck . To bad I'm not an archer class:?.

[oknenah]

happy_daiz wrote...

oknenah wrote...

I'm finally back and able to play the game!

So how has Woolie been doing? Are there any changes you guys would recommend for him to improve his performance?

We need to see about getting him some better armor.  I didn't have much to give him, aside from that ring with possession resistance, which helped.  He was fine, but the poor guy died a lot. Have you gone through BBI much in your run?

Ya, I figured better armor would help him. I have farmed out full sets of armor for Yellow Vocations and Red Vocations. The next thing to do is farm out a full set for him and get it dragon forged. 

I could also switch his vocation to a ranger because that full set is dragonforged but he has just been a mage or a sorcerer so his attack will be lower.

Any different spells you recomend? I'm thinking about removing Bolide because 90% of the time I just see him cast almost the whole thing and then just cancel it and walk two feet and start again<_<.

[oknenah]

Finally got Death out of those roots. Now I can hit him again. =)

[happy_daiz]

Do you have any sorcerer rings for him? I didn't get any of those for a long time, even with my pawn as a Mage, and my Arisen as a Sorcerer. I did finally get some, but alas, they're wasted now, since I'm playing as MA.

I saw a pawn in Gran Soren last night that had an augment that reduced casting time. Do you have that one?

For Sorcerer spells, I love Gicel; I just can't help myself. With the ring, it's Grand Gicel. That was super handy for bringing down dragons, believe it or not. That Necromancy spell freaks me out - when my husband was playing, and I used his pawn, the sound it made when she cast it always made me think there were enemies somewhere that I couldn't see. Unnerving.

His pawn has purple skin, and a bare butt. *sigh* 

On a side note, why didn't I use Ricochet Bolt much before? Good lord, I can use that in confined spaces, and it dang near kills everything. Gold and silver knights? Cake. Elder Ogres? Ice cream. Hehe.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 15 juillet 2013 - 03:33 .

[CuriousArtemis]

I love Ricochet Bolt, though mine's no doubt nowhere near as powerful 

I was tempted to create a sexy man beast pawn this second go round, but I decided for pretty mage boy instead. I salute your husband  Hey, isn't that what RPGs are for?!

[oknenah]

The only rings I have are:
-[Fire Affinity]
-[High Levin]
[High Frigor]
-[High Levin]
-[High Ingle]

So I got rings to upgrade those spells but none of the bigger spells.

Just equipped the Levin/Frigor ring for now.

Edit: Oh and I have an Ingle/Levin ring too. Which do you think would be better?

Edit2: I switched to Ingle/Levin because I'm not even using Frigor on him and now using Ingle instead of Thunder Affinity. I left that spell on him for longer than I needed because Garms are no problem for me now.

Modifié par oknenah, 15 juillet 2013 - 04:04 .

[happy_daiz]

Oh geez, I don't know. Shepenwepet could probably answer that better than me. Either are useful, but it all depends on the enemies you're against. Gabrielle has a ring for both Ingle/Levin, and it seems to do the trick. And one for Anodyne, but she's a Mage. I keep hoping to get a healing-type ring that has both Anodyne and an affinity, but haven't yet.

If you equip one of the rings you do have, and have upgraded the spells it affects to High, it will make them Grand.

@moto - it didn't occur to me to use pots and peridots to increase my magick as a MA until recently. Derp. They don't call it a 'Magick' archer for nothing. 

Modifié par happy_daiz, 15 juillet 2013 - 04:03 .

[oknenah]

Oh ya, Thanks everyone who has been renting my pawn! The rift crystals I got when logging in are very helpful. =D

[CuriousArtemis]

happy_daiz wrote...

@moto - it didn't occur to me to use pots and peridots to increase my magick as a MA until recently. Derp. They don't call it a 'Magick' archer for nothing. 

 Are these used for something other than upgrades?? I fear you think I'm cleverer than I am.... 

Modifié par motomotogirl, 15 juillet 2013 - 04:34 .

[CuriousArtemis]

oknenah wrote...

Oh ya, Thanks everyone who has been renting my pawn! The rift crystals I got when logging in are very helpful. =D

I will rent your pawn soon! Having too much fun with my new game, so it will probably be tomorrow.

[coldwetn0se]

The augment to reduce casting time is Articulacy. I never have Chase without it as a Mage or Sorcerer. (It is available through the maxing out the Sorcerer vocation) Considering how long it takes to cast some of these spells....every bit of speed helps. I also use it on my MA and MK, since I switch to a staff often.

I finally finished through the main Daimon quest. It all went well, and got the Hellfire Greaves. I had Shinon and Gabs with me, though I nearly put baby___errr, Shinon in the corner. I think he thought those Dragon Wings on his helm, afforded him flight. XD He jumped off a cliff in the Bloodless Stockade.

Anyway, Chase is now a Warrior again (with some badly matched armor...heh!). I am still running as an MK, so I can dragon forge a few things to be upgraded, then he can wear something better. Still not nearly as good as what many have, but it works. The only high end piece I have, is the Hellfire Greaves, and I have one of the higher end bracers for an archer (can't remember the name of it now).

Just got finished killing the dragon in the Dusk Tower. He was mighty good for some dragon forging. ya, baby!

[oknenah]

motomotogirl wrote...

oknenah wrote...

Oh ya, Thanks everyone who has been renting my pawn! The rift crystals I got when logging in are very helpful. =D

I will rent your pawn soon! Having too much fun with my new game, so it will probably be tomorrow.

Sound good. =)

A question for those who may know:

When you assign spells to pawns do they prioritize the primary skills above the secondary skills or is the name just related to using RB/LB?

[happy_daiz]

motomotogirl wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

@moto - it didn't occur to me to use pots and peridots to increase my magick as a MA until recently. Derp. They don't call it a 'Magick' archer for nothing. 

 Are these used for something other than upgrades?? I fear you think I'm cleverer than I am.... 

Ugh, stupid auto-correct. That was supposed to be 'potions' and periapts'. Good god. 

[Shepenwepet]

I thought I had a good idea last night. I went into the rift at the entrance to Daimon's room (to call my pawns to me, I ran through the fallen city) which created a checkpoint save. I then killed him and opened the chests. I headed back to Olra to purify the drops, I got a dominion claw and boots of shadow. I had all the low-tier boots and everything from the dominion claw set, so I reloaded from last checkpoint, putting me back at the riftstone outside Bitterblack Sanctum. I killed Daimon again, and went and purified the spoils. I got framae blades and boots of shadow.

It appears the set is determined even before it drops, so... bah. I also got another Blasphemer's cloak from Midnight Helix. I have the worst luck. Or the worst predetermined drop list. Boots and cloaks, that's all it is. I thought I had a full Shadow set, but no, I'm missing the gauntlets. I've only ever had ONE gauntlet set. Perhaps the game expects me to start wrapping my arms in cloaks and wearing boots on my head.

happy_daiz wrote...
On a side note, why didn't I use Ricochet Bolt much before?

You mean you haven't been creating piles of dead garms in hallways? But it's so fun!

coldwetn0se wrote...
I had Shinon and Gabs with me, though I nearly put baby___errr, Shinon in the corner. I think he thought those Dragon Wings on his helm, afforded him flight. XD He jumped off a cliff in the Bloodless Stockade.

That's a new one. I usually lose him in the Tower of Treasons Repaid-type rooms, on the lower level, past all the poison gunk on the floor. Skeletons usually spawn right by the edge of the cliff and end up falling off, and Shinon will jump after them.

oknenah wrote...
When you assign spells to pawns do they prioritize the primary skills above the secondary skills or is the name just related to using RB/LB?

It's just RB/LB. Once pawns have knowledge of enemies, they'll exploit the weaknesses no matter where the corresponding spell is.

[happy_daiz]

Shepenwepet wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...
On a side note, why didn't I use Ricochet Bolt much before?

You mean you haven't been creating piles of dead garms in hallways? But it's so fun!

You know, I did try it out for a little while, and realized that I was just kinda hooked on Hunter Bolt and Sixfold Bolt, and didn't even bother trying to use anything I had mapped in the other spot. I get very set in my ways sometimes. Stubborn, you might say.

And...I attempted it. I fought Daimon.



Everything was going fine, until the second part, when everyone ran and jumped in the shiny hole Daimon was making. I could have sworn I heard, "Let's have a look" out of Shinon, but maybe it was just in my head.

And then there was one.



Clearly I'm still not ready for this hurdle.  I ran out of wakestones, and said to hell with it.

So I went and talked to my buddy Barroch for some advice. He had none. He told me a story to make me feel better, though. 



And I purified a level 3 armor I got by Godsbaning in the Fallen City - I got the Carrion Veil.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 15 juillet 2013 - 02:00 .

[happy_daiz]

@oknenah - I took a look at Woolie's spells and augments, and I think he's spec'd really well, actually.

BBI just seems especially brutal to mages and sorcerers, due to their standing in place to cast spells. Maybe that's all it was. If you pick up any rings with dual powers, though, I'd say equip them. Well, assuming they're spells you actually like.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 15 juillet 2013 - 02:07 .

[coldwetn0se]

@ohnenah - Woolie seemed good to me too. I didn't use him for long, since I had Chase bouncing back and forth between Mage and Sorcerer, but he worked quite nicely.

So I'm guessing the second incarnation of Daimon is much tougher than the first. Nice catch on the Carrion Veil.

So @happy_daiz....did you finally take down Death? I am such a weenie. I was puffing myself up to take him on in the Bloodless Stockade, and I ended up wussing out by hiding in the small chest room, till he went away. *hangs head in shame*

Part of my problem is MK. Nothing wrong with the vocation (and damn if the Magic Cannon isn't a hoot), but I just feel out of place as an MK. I have gotten better, but it is not my preferred play style, so I feel very clumsy with it. Looking forward to switching back to a bow user.

[happy_daiz]

Yep, Awakened Daimon is basically the first fight all over again, with a bonus totally craptacular second half. It's a big bowl of fun. We were doing ok until that black hole business. Once all of my pawns committed suicide, I was meek and pathetic, I'm sad to say.

I haven't taken down Death yet, actually. I dangled as many carrots as I could, but he hasn't been back. I think I read somewhere that if you hear those faint church bell things when you enter an area, that Death is near - is that correct? Well, he must have been elsewhere, because I didn't see him, or hear the bells, and I was all ready to take him down.

If you unequip your lantern, you can evade him a little easier. The lantern puts a proverbial target on your back. According to the wiki:

If you have confirmed that Death is in the dungeon, turn your Lantern off. Also consider not giving your pawns lanterns. Death actively seeks light sources, so avoid spells or other sources of light. Avoid going near it, and you can avoid it's view.

I like MK, a lot. It's probably my second favorite vocation. However, the shield was wasted on me, since I never actually used it to block. Mostly I enchanted weapons, and sliced and diced. And magick cannoned. That is the most worthwhile skill of all in that vocation, imho (aside from Blink Strike).
 
It took me a little while to figure out how to actually use the cannon. I kept casting it, then didn't hit the glowy ball. I think I finally did by mistake, during a fight, and was like, 'whoa'. Ask me how stupid I felt.

Sometimes I think I play when I'm asleep. That would explain much.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 15 juillet 2013 - 06:04 .

[coldwetn0se]

^lol. I dream about monster bashing on BBI too much. Very good thing my husband is a good sport.

I had read about the "church bells" as well, but hadn't noticed them until I was 'planning' on fighting him in the Bloodless Stockade. THAT time, I heard the bells, aaaaaand I freaked. Pathetic. XD

Tried out Holy Wall for a bit, but got into a bad habit of just standing their holding the shield out. It made the fight in question take much longer than it needed. I do enchant (I have one of the rings to upgrade that). Have you ever used Sopor for MK (I have a ring for that as well)?

[happy_daiz]

I dream about this game every single night that I play it. Sometimes it gets to the point where I have to question if I actually witnessed something, or if it was from a dream. That means you guys should take pretty much anything I say with a grain of salt, hehe.

I've never used Sopor. I didn't know it existed until this very moment. I started using Shadowshackle with MA recently, because of a ring. I really like it. Lesser enemies get stuck in it, and you can just go to town on them.

Holy wall is what those blasted knights use. It's pretty effective.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 15 juillet 2013 - 06:12 .

[oknenah]

The easiest place I have found to get Death to spawn is that very first area. If you walk in there and there are saurians then when you kill enough of them Death spawns. If there are goblins two Garms will spawn.

The music does signify that he is in the area and searching. He also has his own unique battle music.

I'm glad to see I spec'd Woolie good. Hopefully I get the lvl 2 armors while farming so that he can be better geared.

[Shepenwepet]

The first fights with Awakened Daimon can be troublesome, but you'll learn his patterns and weaknesses. The rift portal can still wipe my party if I can't stun him. A sixfold/ninefold straight to the head does it 90% of the time, but sometimes it doesn't seem to register, and he keeps casting. I find myself having to wait a few seconds after the zoom-in just to be sure it'll stun him. And if you're not facing him head on, it might not work.

If you're playing MA, spamming sixfold bolt can stun-lock him, but you'll run out of stamina, so bring mushrooms or some of the eight thousand harspud sauces you no doubt picked up along the way. You might find that using just your basic attack does more damage in less time than charging and releasing sixfold, and it's what I've come to use lately, saving my stamina for when I need it. One basic attack from my MA takes off about 1/6th of a health bar, before using periapts.

One of those shadowy-claw swipes will still one-shot me, so I tend to stick closer to him than I normally would. he tends to use magic when you're closer, which I can deal better with, having been a magic character for all 200 levels. My physical defense is rather poor. You can roll under the claw swipes, but when I'm aiming it's hard to notice things going on around me. By the time I notice I'm about to be hit, well, I'm hit.

After he collapses, I pepper him with Explosive Rivet and let my pawns climb all over him. I also switch up and use Sapfire daggers, you can lower his defense with them. Shinon eats him alive, a few seconds of thousand kisses and a bar is emptied.

[coldwetn0se]

Oh lordy! I just reread my post, and it sounds like my husband would be, I don't know....offended(?) that I wasn't dreaming about him. LOL! Just pointing out that my husband is a good sport about my gaming habits. >.<

[happy_daiz]

No worries, that's how I read it. 

Thanks for the advice, Shep. I think I'm going to tool around Gransys a little, the next time I play, to max out my two straggler skills, then I'll head back in for another go.

I have the Sapfire Daggers. Two pairs of them, actually. I wonder if I should get Gabs set up as an archer before I go in back to fight Daimon. Hmm. I shall have to ponder that.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 15 juillet 2013 - 06:30 .

[CuriousArtemis]

Killed a wyvern wearing FOUR three star items.

None of it gets dragonforged <_<