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[Dean_the_Young]

sael_feman wrote...

Well I don't want to speculate about shape or function, though it does sound like a very utilitarian experience. Actually the more people talk about it the less it sounds like that which we are used to. I think I (male Shep) might just find a human female character and do it the old fashioned way.

It'd probably feel better, in the way that a (female sex organ) feels much better than (male hand organ movement).

Evolved to feel great, versus not evolved to be physically compatible and pleasant. Isn't evolution grand?

[TobyHasEyes]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

TobyHasEyes wrote...

 A capacity to orgasm whilst engaging in activity which gives the other person an orgasm? Whilst looking almost entirely human and being capable of at least human level thinking/conversation/etc.?

 Sounds like reasonable qualities in a love interest

Well, I bet someone could make a dog orgasm, and make themselves orgasm, but I'm not sure that it would be 'hot' for them.


Though that really wouldn't apply in the Asari case, since Humans are the guilt-free pureblood sex fantasy. Even if half of them are the unholy cross of an Asari and Hanar.

 Yeh.. of course the rest of my post was written exactly to counter the why-don't-you-just-screw-a-horse esque retorts

 All in all.. considering what we have seen and learnt of the Asari, I see nothing to tear down the idea of Asari being attractive

[Brian Orcus]

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Modifié par Brian Orcus, 22 octobre 2011 - 08:08 .

[TobyHasEyes]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

sael_feman wrote...

Well I don't want to speculate about shape or function, though it does sound like a very utilitarian experience. Actually the more people talk about it the less it sounds like that which we are used to. I think I (male Shep) might just find a human female character and do it the old fashioned way.

It'd probably feel better, in the way that a (female sex organ) feels much better than (male hand organ movement).

Evolved to feel great, versus not evolved to be physically compatible and pleasant. Isn't evolution grand?

 Not to be inflammatory, but the underlying assumption would also lead you to conclude that homosexual activity is playing second best

 I can't verify if that is or isn't the case

Modifié par TobyHasEyes, 22 octobre 2011 - 08:11 .

[Brian Orcus]

Bekkael wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

What's going on in this th--OH GOD. *runs*

We tried to save this thread by derailing it Admiral. But it seems there were some do-gooders who were determined to drag it back on track.

I support more animal pics. I thought that was the most enjoyable part of this thread.

http://www.acuteaday...iled-weasel.jpg

[Dean_the_Young]

TobyHasEyes wrote...

 Not to be inflammatory, but the underlying assumption would also lead you to conclude that homosexual activity is playing second best

Not really. After all, homosexuality still develops around the same evolution of species.

Or did you think the size was by chance?

 I couldn't verify if that is or isn't the case

Plenty enough people, of both genders, can testify.

[Dean_the_Young]

TobyHasEyes wrote...


 All in all.. considering what we have seen and learnt of the Asari, I see nothing to tear down the idea of Asari being attractive

'Attractive' is superficial. 'The right parts in the sack' is a bit more evolutionary.

When you get down to it, anything that can apply enough pressure for the guys, and can press in enough for the girls, would suffice on the 'is it good for you' metric.

[TobyHasEyes]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

TobyHasEyes wrote...

 Not to be inflammatory, but the underlying assumption would also lead you to conclude that homosexual activity is playing second best

Not really. After all, homosexuality still develops around the same evolution of species.

Or did you think the size was by chance?

 I couldn't verify if that is or isn't the case

Plenty enough people, of both genders, can testify.

Okay, didn't really want to get into the mechanics but.. are you suggesting that the 'back-door' has been shaped by evolution to be a sexual orifice? What possible fitness-enhancing properties does that have?

 And assuming that you accept that that isn't the case.. then it shows how it is possible that those who have sexual intercourse with a non-Asari could easily have a great time (and the in-game relationships further suggest that is the case), as we are establishing that 'just another hole' can do the job.. and be found to be preferable by some (even within a heterosexual context)

Modifié par TobyHasEyes, 22 octobre 2011 - 08:16 .

[Bekkael]

Brian Orcus wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

What's going on in this th--OH GOD. *runs*

We tried to save this thread by derailing it Admiral. But it seems there were some do-gooders who were determined to drag it back on track.

I support more animal pics. I thought that was the most enjoyable part of this thread.

**  removed in accordance with Site Rule # 2 as it is off topic **

Adorable. And preferable to contemplating an Asari vagina.

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 24 octobre 2011 - 12:32 .

[diamondedge]

Like, 'Shepard? Why are you putting your tongue in there? It does nothing for me, except to pass water.'

But hey, she's got boobs, and a hole, and isn't that what most people require of a woman lesbian love interest?

Says who? Asari aren't asexual, they are MONO GENDERED. All asari are sexually female", and according to Liara they also have maternal instincts. As far as anyone knows, there hasn't been any direct clarification to how closely the Asari resemble humans in terms of sexual interaction outside joining - the only thing we do know that sex - as we know it - is not required for their reproduction, but it is never stated that Asari cannot experience sexual pleasure - as we know it. After all, sex isn't limmited to gender, it's merely the act of penetration that would separate the experience.

If you don't like the Asari that's fine, but you're spouting nonsense and I've had enough of your disengenious assertions. Get lost.

[TobyHasEyes]

diamondedge wrote...

Like, 'Shepard? Why are you putting your tongue in there? It does nothing for me, except to pass water.'

But hey, she's got boobs, and a hole, and isn't that what most people require of a woman lesbian love interest?

Says who? Asari aren't asexual, they are MONO GENDERED. All asari are sexually female", and according to Liara they also have maternal instincts. As far as anyone knows, there hasn't been any direct clarification to how closely the Asari resemble humans in terms of sexual interaction outside joining - the only thing we do know that sex - as we know it - is not required for their reproduction, but it is never stated that Asari cannot experience sexual pleasure - as we know it. After all, sex isn't limmited to gender, it's merely the act of penetration that would separate the experience.

If you don't like the Asari that's fine, but you're spouting nonsense and I've had enough of your disengenious assertions. Get lost.

 The point would be that they have no evolutionary or developmental reason to have their 'experience of pleasure' directly linked with their birth canal

[Dean_the_Young]

TobyHasEyes wrote...

Okay, didn't really want to get into the mechanics but.. are you suggesting that the 'back-door' has been shaped by evolution to be a sexual orifice? What possible fitness-enhancing properties does that have?

It doesn't need any: most evolutionary pick-me-ups are garbage anyway.

In this case, 'alternative outlet for sexual tension' can have breeding/survival implications. It feels good, so people have more sex (of all sorts) for overall increase. Pleasure between two men leads to cooperation for optimal survival, with carryover for the men who impregnate women as well. Etc.

Why does 'sex' ever feel good when it's not in a vagina?

 And assuming that you accept that that isn't the case.. then it shows how it is possible that those who have sexual intercourse with a non-Asari could easily have a great time (and the in-game relationships further suggest that is the case), as we are establishing that 'just another hole' can do the job.. and be found to be preferable by some (even within a heterosexual context)

No one's ever saying that you couldn't have a good time.

You could also have a good time with a donkey. Or a goat. Those jokes exist  for a reason. Now, would your quality of experience be as good compared to the good old natural? Emotionally, depends on the partner. Physically?

Well, 'good enough' is good enough, no matter how you look at it.

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 22 octobre 2011 - 08:25 .

[Dean_the_Young]

TobyHasEyes wrote...

diamondedge wrote...

Like, 'Shepard? Why are you putting your tongue in there? It does nothing for me, except to pass water.'

But hey, she's got boobs, and a hole, and isn't that what most people require of a woman lesbian love interest?

Says who? Asari aren't asexual, they are MONO GENDERED. All asari are sexually female", and according to Liara they also have maternal instincts. As far as anyone knows, there hasn't been any direct clarification to how closely the Asari resemble humans in terms of sexual interaction outside joining - the only thing we do know that sex - as we know it - is not required for their reproduction, but it is never stated that Asari cannot experience sexual pleasure - as we know it. After all, sex isn't limmited to gender, it's merely the act of penetration that would separate the experience.

If you don't like the Asari that's fine, but you're spouting nonsense and I've had enough of your disengenious assertions. Get lost.

 The point would be that they have no evolutionary or developmental reason to have their 'experience of pleasure' directly linked with their birth canal

Sometimes a ****** track is just a ****** track, it's true.

[TobyHasEyes]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

TobyHasEyes wrote...

Okay, didn't really want to get into the mechanics but.. are you suggesting that the 'back-door' has been shaped by evolution to be a sexual orifice? What possible fitness-enhancing properties does that have?

It doesn't need any: most evolutionary pick-me-ups are garbage anyway.

In this case, 'alternative outlet for sexual tension' can have breeding/survival implications. It feels good, so people have more sex (of all sorts) for overall increase. Pleasure between two men leads to cooperation for optimal survival, with carryover for the men who impregnate women as well. Etc.

Why does 'sex' ever feel good when it's not in a vagina?

 And assuming that you accept that that isn't the case.. then it shows how it is possible that those who have sexual intercourse with a non-Asari could easily have a great time (and the in-game relationships further suggest that is the case), as we are establishing that 'just another hole' can do the job.. and be found to be preferable by some (even within a heterosexual context)

No one's ever saying that you couldn't have a good time.

You could also have a good time with a donkey. Or a goat. Those jokes exist  for a reason. Now, would your quality of experience be as good compared to the good old natural? Emotionally, depends on the partner. Physically?

Well, 'good enough' is good enough, no matter how you look at it.

 Want to start by saying I am not making any general comments about 'back-door' activity; I have no issue with it in a heterosexual or a homosexual context, but there are some points to be made in relation to this topic. I do hope though that neither you nor anyone else takes this as some form of implicit condemnation or something similar

 From an evolutionary context, 'back-door' activity is actually quite fitness-reducing.. risk of infection, risk of damage, increased chance of STD spreading

 It is theorised that that is why most male animals who do engage in homosexual (or bisexual) activity stimulate each other in different ways. Why stimulation of the prostate works as it does is an interesting question, but the inherent dangers of unprotected 'back-door' activity make it unlikely that the 'back-door' passage was shaped to take such entry

 My point was more focused on how it is possible for people to prefer the feel of an orifice not evolved for sexual purposes (the 'back-door') to one that has.. and as such there is no reason to suggest that those who would have a sexual relationship with an Asari would prefer a human female

 And the donkey comments are ridiculous and have no relevance, as any issue anyone can have with relations between a donkey/dog/animal with a person have nothing to do with some unsuitablity in the animals' orifices

Modifié par TobyHasEyes, 22 octobre 2011 - 08:43 .

[Brian Orcus]

For someone like me who also enjoys playing around before sex or even just to pass time with a lover, asari would me more interesting the more different they are. Every woman is different, most guys don't care enough to notice but genitals may as well be fingerprints. I'm not going to gloat but I've never sen two that were identical.On top of that none of them have the same reactions. A non human person who would allow me to be intimate with them would be the ultimate adventure for me.

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

A non human person who would allow me to be intimate with them would be the ultimate adventure for me.

I don't think you'll be finding an oxymoron anytime soon unfortunately.

[SPACE_GREASER]

wtf

[Brian Orcus]

fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

A non human person who would allow me to be intimate with them would be the ultimate adventure for me.

I don't think you'll be finding an oxymoron anytime soon unfortunately.

"Person" refers to personality. Asari, quarians and turians are all non human people. Persons. Learn what wards mean bafor you try to make people look foolish.

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

Whoa whoa calm down, it was just light-hearted observation, I wasn't trying to make anybody look anything.The point still stands though, would you qualify a dolphin if we started being able to talk to them?

[Brian Orcus]

No. I am not one of those crazy "Dolphin Nation" weirdos. I'm referring to intelligent alien life, not animals that have learned to wave. Monkeys can sign simple thoughts, but they won't be doing taxes anytime soon.

Like Mordin said, "Only get down with species capable of calculus. Simple rule, never broken." Well he may not have said that exactly, but you get the idea.

[atheelogos]

Brian Orcus wrote...

That doesn't make since. You don't need outside influence to randomize something.

yep your right about that. They do it for cultural reasons.

[D.Kain]

Intelligent life begins where nature ends.

[Zaxares]

The simplest explanation is just to wave your hand and say, "Space magic!"

A more complicated explanation is that the asari reproductive process enables their bodies to manually randomise the DNA they pass on to their offspring, similar to the way some species on Earth such as jellyfish and flatworms can adjust the composition of their own cells. I actually suspect that their reproductive process has nothing at all to do with asari biotic powers; it's a purely biological process.

In fact, I'm constantly puzzled over HOW exactly all asari are natural biotics. Normally, biotics are created when a fetus is exposed to dust-form element zero, which suggests that Thessia may have been a planet naturally rich in element zero, but that doesn't explain how asari born on planets other than Thessia (and presumably without exposure to eezo accidents) still end up as biotics anyway.

That suggests to me that either:

a) All asari possess a natural reserve of dust-form eezo in their bodies, and a portion of this is passed on to their offspring. However, this would also mean that each new generation of asari born outside Thessia would get progressively less and less eezo, which means gradually decreasing biotic prowess.

Asari are the only race capable of producing either eezo, or some biological substitute, within their own bodies. In which case, I'd sure as hell have my scientists trying to figure out what exactly this substance was, and whether it can be manufactured in a lab!

[Volus Warlord]

Budding.