i dont know if im the only one that thought Tallis should of stayed after the new DLC until the end i for one would of like to have that but thats me. too bad bioware wont let that happen i perfere tallis over the dude with the long bow anyday of the week. but like i said thats just me, but i do hope later on bioware brings back Tallis for the rest of the game.
Tallis should of stayed with the party after mark of the assassin.
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 07:17
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If tallis should have been a permanent squaddie bioware and Felicia Day would actually have had to work 
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 09:44
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I'm interested to know if you feel this from a "I think she's hot and has some neat skills" point of view or a role playing point of view in the context of the story. Tallis is completely working to her own agenda and has no real need for Hawke having achieved her objective. In any case, Hawke has enough problems without adding in a Qunari spy to the entourage. The issue with the Qunari treatment of mages didn't really surface as a problem in MoA but would have to be dealt with if Tallis became a permanent companion, unless you have a Hawke who is totally anti-mage and anti-Chantry. If Tallis was considering leaving the Qun, then that would be a different matter but as things stand she was lucky she was allowed to just walk away.
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Posté 22 octobre 2011 - 11:11
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I would love it too! I think that will be very interesting seen sebastian pulling his hair off with tallis brain-washing the group to go pro-qunari!.. lol! pay back! omg lol.
Sebastian: hawke are you sure you'll invite her? a qunari spy? what if everyone leave and join the qunari?
Hawke: I guess you should pray harder to the belt buckle
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Sebastian:Haven't you seen what they do to their mages!!?
Hawke: How things are right now in the gallows... they won't even notes the difference, Sebastian.
Seriously thought i think the character is very rich and should be added to the next game.
Sebastian: hawke are you sure you'll invite her? a qunari spy? what if everyone leave and join the qunari?
Hawke: I guess you should pray harder to the belt buckle
) Sebastian:Haven't you seen what they do to their mages!!?
Hawke: How things are right now in the gallows... they won't even notes the difference, Sebastian.
Seriously thought i think the character is very rich and should be added to the next game.
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Posté 25 octobre 2011 - 12:16
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tallis would make a nice addiction currently we only one dw rogue excluding hawke ,
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Posté 25 octobre 2011 - 10:23
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Actually they wrote themselves into a corner a bit with Tallis bearing in mind that they don't seem to restrict you to a particular point in the game to do the DLC. With Sebastian the only bit of informaton associated with him that impacts on the main plot doesn't happen until Act 3 regardless of when you do his earlier quests.
With Tallis, I gather you can do the DLC in any Act but how you react is going to be very different depending on when you do it and you would have the problem that if she was in your party whilst the Arishok was still in town, then they would have to write in how she reacts to the various plots involving Qunari, which would be quite a bit. What would you do when the Arishok attacks, what would she do?
Likewise the scroll. If you know about it before the Arishok attacks, then it goes some way to explaining the large number of elves that support him (not just the 2 brothers). However, following that episode, the matter of the scroll would be a very sore point I would have thought.
I don't know at what point they decided on having a DLC featuring Tallis but it was obviously after much of the storyline was in place and fitting her in was just too difficult. I would imagine there is also going to be a bit of a problem making her a companion from the beginning in any future full game, since these usually begin with the PC as a novice in terms of experience and Tallis is clearly more than that. I suppose bringing her in part way through, like they did with Zevran, might work.
With Tallis, I gather you can do the DLC in any Act but how you react is going to be very different depending on when you do it and you would have the problem that if she was in your party whilst the Arishok was still in town, then they would have to write in how she reacts to the various plots involving Qunari, which would be quite a bit. What would you do when the Arishok attacks, what would she do?
Likewise the scroll. If you know about it before the Arishok attacks, then it goes some way to explaining the large number of elves that support him (not just the 2 brothers). However, following that episode, the matter of the scroll would be a very sore point I would have thought.
I don't know at what point they decided on having a DLC featuring Tallis but it was obviously after much of the storyline was in place and fitting her in was just too difficult. I would imagine there is also going to be a bit of a problem making her a companion from the beginning in any future full game, since these usually begin with the PC as a novice in terms of experience and Tallis is clearly more than that. I suppose bringing her in part way through, like they did with Zevran, might work.
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Posté 25 octobre 2011 - 02:03
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*Hawke kills Arishok*Gervaise wrote...
if she was in your party whilst the Arishok was still in town, then they would have to write in how she reacts to the various plots involving Qunari, which would be quite a bit. What would you do when the Arishok attacks, what would she do?
Nooooooooo, Arishok, Noooo. He was your most certain your most wise... Why didn't he listen to me!?
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Posté 25 octobre 2011 - 06:13
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I like it! Does anyone get the feeling that after MoA we're not really taking it seriously any more.
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Posté 25 octobre 2011 - 06:20
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Ah... I told Tallis that I never wanted to see her again in all of my playthrough so far so... no? She was really luckt that my Hawke was too preoccipied with Templars to want to deal with the Qunari yet again.
I think the main problem is that too much iof the core games would have to be affected by it. It would as Gervaise also have pointed out simply seem like bad writing to have a Qunari spy in the group and have her say nothing about all the Qunari stuff. That would be like Sebastian not reacting to the chantry explosion. Leliana for expample doesn't react differently in Faith because you have met her in Mark. Sebastian was written from the first day to be part of the core game and was written together with thee core game. Thee dlc now has been written after the game.
I think the main problem is that too much iof the core games would have to be affected by it. It would as Gervaise also have pointed out simply seem like bad writing to have a Qunari spy in the group and have her say nothing about all the Qunari stuff. That would be like Sebastian not reacting to the chantry explosion. Leliana for expample doesn't react differently in Faith because you have met her in Mark. Sebastian was written from the first day to be part of the core game and was written together with thee core game. Thee dlc now has been written after the game.
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Posté 25 octobre 2011 - 06:26
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No I didn't.
You have to understand duel fighting in da is normal and it was a duel to the death on top of that the one who came with the idea was.. the arishock, so even if tallis was there, she would have said: what a fool. And I wouldn't have given up my friend ( she protect others info by taking the scroll).
You have to understand duel fighting in da is normal and it was a duel to the death on top of that the one who came with the idea was.. the arishock, so even if tallis was there, she would have said: what a fool. And I wouldn't have given up my friend ( she protect others info by taking the scroll).
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Posté 25 octobre 2011 - 06:39
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Huntress wrote...
No I didn't.
You have to understand duel fighting in da is normal and it was a duel to the death on top of that the one who came with the idea was.. the arishock, so even if tallis was there, she would have said: what a fool. And I wouldn't have given up my friend ( she protect others info by taking the scroll).
The problem is with it way thingss function right now Tallis would have reacted at all to the whole thing.
Also only one of my Hawke duelled the arishok.
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Posté 25 octobre 2011 - 07:18
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As much as I liked the character, storywise that wouldn't make sense simply because out of all your companions she actually had **** to do outside of hanging out, organinzing a rebellion, or waiting for a mage to track you down. Actually, Nathaniel and Zeveran being options to help you when you're fighting Meredith didn't really make sense either. I know they say that they owe you but really? They all just happened to still be in Kirkwall during that night when they each have said they were leaving.
Anyway, I wouldn't mind there being an expansion to this a la Awakening where she could be a party member so we could find out more about her and more of the fallout from MOTA.
Anyway, I wouldn't mind there being an expansion to this a la Awakening where she could be a party member so we could find out more about her and more of the fallout from MOTA.
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Posté 25 octobre 2011 - 07:39
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esper wrote...
Huntress wrote...
No I didn't.
You have to understand duel fighting in da is normal and it was a duel to the death on top of that the one who came with the idea was.. the arishock, so even if tallis was there, she would have said: what a fool. And I wouldn't have given up my friend ( she protect others info by taking the scroll).
The problem is with it way thingss function right now Tallis would have reacted at all to the whole thing.
Also only one of my Hawke duelled the arishok.
It doesn't matter how the fight start, the one who ask for it is NOT hawke is the Arishock and the winner get to say the last words in Thedas, in RL.
Tallis is from thedas so the rules still holds to her aswell and the arishock want to made certain that only by death the fate of isabela will be decide, so as you can see he wrote his own end. Not one can't stop it either... When a duel is called it has to take place or hawke will be killed by the arishock right where he stand for been a coward or give up isabela before the duel is called.
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Posté 25 octobre 2011 - 10:45
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Knight of Dane wrote...
*Hawke kills Arishok*Gervaise wrote...
if she was in your party whilst the Arishok was still in town, then they would have to write in how she reacts to the various plots involving Qunari, which would be quite a bit. What would you do when the Arishok attacks, what would she do?
Nooooooooo, Arishok, Noooo. He was your most certain your most wise... Why didn't he listen to me!?
lol!
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Posté 26 octobre 2011 - 09:29
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Huntress wrote...
esper wrote...
Huntress wrote...
No I didn't.
You have to understand duel fighting in da is normal and it was a duel to the death on top of that the one who came with the idea was.. the arishock, so even if tallis was there, she would have said: what a fool. And I wouldn't have given up my friend ( she protect others info by taking the scroll).
The problem is with it way thingss function right now Tallis would have reacted at all to the whole thing.
Also only one of my Hawke duelled the arishok.
It doesn't matter how the fight start, the one who ask for it is NOT hawke is the Arishock and the winner get to say the last words in Thedas, in RL.
Tallis is from thedas so the rules still holds to her aswell and the arishock want to made certain that only by death the fate of isabela will be decide, so as you can see he wrote his own end. Not one can't stop it either... When a duel is called it has to take place or hawke will be killed by the arishock right where he stand for been a coward or give up isabela before the duel is called.
I am pretty sure that turning down the duel is disgracefull since that basically result in you killing all the remaining Qunari.If you duel the Arishok or Hawke dies. I agree Tallis would accept that, but if you don't duel I think that you are baiscally stepping all over every qunari principle. (If the challenge is issued that is). Also what would be the point of Tallis staying with Hawke post-act 2?
But my main point still stand.With the way things works now Tallis would not react to the event at all which as I said before would be as weird as Sebastian not reacting to the Chantry explosion. Sebastian was created along with da2 so he was fitted in as it was written. Tallis were not so she can't be fitted in- it is apprently too much work. Not even Sister Nightingale was re-written in Faith to show if Hawke had met her in Mark or not.
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Posté 27 octobre 2011 - 03:56
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esper wrote...
Huntress wrote...
esper wrote...
Huntress wrote...
No I didn't.
You have to understand duel fighting in da is normal and it was a duel to the death on top of that the one who came with the idea was.. the arishock, so even if tallis was there, she would have said: what a fool. And I wouldn't have given up my friend ( she protect others info by taking the scroll).
The problem is with it way thingss function right now Tallis would have reacted at all to the whole thing.
Also only one of my Hawke duelled the arishok.
It doesn't matter how the fight start, the one who ask for it is NOT hawke is the Arishock and the winner get to say the last words in Thedas, in RL.
Tallis is from thedas so the rules still holds to her aswell and the arishock want to made certain that only by death the fate of isabela will be decide, so as you can see he wrote his own end. Not one can't stop it either... When a duel is called it has to take place or hawke will be killed by the arishock right where he stand for been a coward or give up isabela before the duel is called.
I am pretty sure that turning down the duel is disgracefull since that basically result in you killing all the remaining Qunari.If you duel the Arishok or Hawke dies. I agree Tallis would accept that, but if you don't duel I think that you are baiscally stepping all over every qunari principle. (If the challenge is issued that is). Also what would be the point of Tallis staying with Hawke post-act 2?
But my main point still stand.With the way things works now Tallis would not react to the event at all which as I said before would be as weird as Sebastian not reacting to the Chantry explosion. Sebastian was created along with da2 so he was fitted in as it was written. Tallis were not so she can't be fitted in- it is apprently too much work. Not even Sister Nightingale was re-written in Faith to show if Hawke had met her in Mark or not.
Yes, and that's why I don't duel. I go out of my way to ****** on their ridiculous qun every chance I get. And then I fight and destroy them.
I never duel the Arishok solely because it means I can not only kill him, but I can kill his troops too. After what they did to the city, I intend that not a damned one of them is getting out alive.
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Posté 27 octobre 2011 - 03:57
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In reference to the OP
I don't see how it could work for her to stay. Hawke kills the Arishok, I don't see her going along with that. I suppose it could be a case of where she joins the Arishok and fights against you, I'd be ok with that.
I don't see how it could work for her to stay. Hawke kills the Arishok, I don't see her going along with that. I suppose it could be a case of where she joins the Arishok and fights against you, I'd be ok with that.
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Posté 03 novembre 2011 - 01:15
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Bioware could have created another DLC to bring Tallis into the game. They could have had her havea falling out with the Qunari or even as a spy, but depending on friendship or rivalery she either decides to leave the Qunari and support Hawke, or even after seeing the S**t the Arishok and the other Qunari do could make her leave the Qunari. She could also be a spy and deliver information to the Qunari with Hawke catching her and giving her a choice. Personally I think that Bioware should expand more on the communication between the companions and especially with the romance part of the game. Like question towards the romance character your intressed in. I found myself wanting to know why everytime I went to the Quari compound at the docks Isabela made an excuse not to go in. I so much want to go to the Hanged Man and ask her what her beef was. I also found myself wanting to ask everyone was ok after a big battle. They suck in your feelings when your mother dies. Bioware need to get input from the game players on what they want to see before they create a game or DLC. I let Anders be killed because he betrayed me. And as for Fenris I found his character annoying. They should allow you to dismiss characters and be able to pick up new ones. Guyver135
