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[Ryuzetsu]

By this time we have all heard that all original Love Interests from ME1 (who aren't dead) will return for ME3, and that there could be,... bum bum buum, "consequences" if you were not faithful to your previous LI. This put me to thinking, were you really unfaithful if you persued something with someone from your new crew. I played Male Shep hetero and there were 5 women who persued interest in me. If you play same sex about the same, and if you're BI, well lets say it's a target rich environment. In ME1 I chose Ashley, and then connected with Jack. Was I "unfaithful?" After all I had been clinically dead for two years, so how am I being unfaithful? This is my example. What do you think the "consequences" will entail? Will it be funny, sad, violent,...sexy? What is your take, feel free scenario or share your personal experience.

[teenparty]

After Ashley left me friendless and alone after waking up from a two year "coma" I didn't think twice about dropping her for Tali.

If anyone is unfaithful it's her. She is one of the few people who knows that the world is going and she leaves me. Not going to let that one go.

Modifié par teenparty, 23 octobre 2011 - 11:52 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Well, you know. Feelings get hurt and all that.

Ash/Kaidan kind of thought you were dead after all. Suddenly, you're alive again, and that causes all sorts of confused emotions. Throw in Cerberus = does not compute, enter rage mode. I don't think (s)he had even completely wrapped his/her head around what was going on when (s)he sent that email.

So try seeing it from his/her perspective.

Anyway, enough of this topic. Can't go a week without it popping up again, it seems.

[ADLegend21]

It's only cheating if you romance Liara sine she knows you're coming back to life and doesn't think you're gone forever.

[Estelindis]

teenparty wrote...

If anyone is unfaithful it's her. 

She had to deal with grieving Shepard's loss for two years.  Two minutes of dialogue on Horizon doesn't somehow annihilate all that she went through because of her feelings for Shepard.  I'd think that any Shepard who really, genuinely loved Ash in the first place wouldn't let such a small thing outweigh all that they'd been through together.  Relationships have ups and downs, after all.  Anyone who bails after the first down-moment was never really in it for the long term anyway.

Saphra Deden wrote...

It's been two years, they both moved on.

Those two years treated the two characters very differently, though.  The time when Shepard was clinically dead meant nothing to him; just a blank slate.  For Shepard, hardly any time has passed between Ilos and Horizon.  For him to be able to move on so easily is fairly cold.  Ash suffered through those two years.  If she gradually moved on over the course of that time, it was a healthy thing to do when confronted with Shepard's death.  It's not something she chose to do in the context of Shepard being alive.  To equate the two is not logically sound.

Modifié par Estelindis, 24 octobre 2011 - 12:07 .

[Yves Adele Harlow]

My canon Shepard didn't romance anyone in either game. In fact I never did any ME romances, though I've tried a few of the ME2 ones. Short answer: No, my Shepard(s) didn't cheat. I liked the FemShep/Thane romance best out of all of them, though I can't see that one ending well. Shepard/Jack was also interesting.

As for the consequences to cheating on ME romances... I don't know. Kaidan and Ashley seem like they would be more tolerant of this type of behaviour than Liara would be; assuming of course that you'd intend to pursue them further in ME3. Liara would probably still forgive you, but I imagine her having a harder time getting past it than the other two. While she has changed in LOTSB, I've seen her reactions on youtube to cheating. I think they show that her youthful naivete is still there with regards to romance. Her (mostly) biting remarks are an attempt to hurt Shepard for betraying an idealised image of their romance.

[D.Kain]

Moving on is.. unpleasant.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Saphra Deden wrote...

WE WERE ON A BREAAAAAAAK!

Followed by several minutes of arguing.
Eventually broken up by incoming hostiles.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

D.Kain wrote...

Moving on is.. unpleasant.

Naw.
When your sex act kills the other person it gets easy.

Just ask Morinth.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Apparently the VS doesn't think that till death do we part exist if they show up in 3 and say you cheated you should be able to retort I died. Death negates any past relationships you had when you were as dead as shep was. We aren't talking about a near death experience we're talking about a 2 years flat line here VS moved on per their note (at least Kaiden says so) and Liara was colder then ice in 2 main story so she obviously didn't much care for you either despite her later back peddling in SB over the issue. BW obviously wanted the players to feel so shoved aside they would pick someone else so I'm not quite sure how all this cheating is going to go Kaiden mentions he's dating someone if you romanced him and Liara is willing to drop it in SB.

The only way I can see the whole cheating thing really coming into ME3 is you romance someone in 2 then you pick a new person while the 2LI is doing whatever and you have two LIs going on at the same time. Let me give a better example say you romanced Garrus from 2 and while he's doing something for the Turian hierarchy you get Vega on your team to fill the gap and you romance him both men find out you are dating the other behind their backs so then you've got a problem.

Same would go for flings if Parasini and Shaila want to push their first moves if players accept either of these two women's advances then whoever they romanced may find out if conditions are met and you'll have an issue. I can't see a ME vs ME2 or such issue when you can come back with the whole died and in Kaiden's case he did move on so why can't you?

[D.Kain]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Moving on is.. unpleasant.

Naw.
When your sex act kills the other person it gets easy.

Just ask Morinth.

Morinth doesn't know what love is. I'm talking about healthy relationships.

[Estelindis]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

Apparently the VS doesn't think that till death do we part exist if they show up in 3 and say you cheated you should be able to retort I died.

Honestly, I don't imagine that Kaidan or Ashley will be hostile and angry towards Shepard if s/he has moved on romantically.  I think it's more likely they'll just feel sad.  Whatever consequences come from not being faithful to the ME1 romance, I imagine they'll be more indirect than direct.  Just my two cents.

[TheMakoMaster]

Ryuzetsu wrote...

What do you think the "consequences" will entail?

Ashley, Miranda, Shepard, Wrex, and Udina fivesome (?) obviously.  

[D.Kain]

I like how people actually makes excuses of why it is ok to cheat. Sure you can make good excuses it only means that the LI meant nothing to you in the first place.

[Labrev]

I flat-out cheated on Liara. Pirate!Shep used her for sex, twice, then threw her away.

Modifié par Hah Yes Reapers, 24 octobre 2011 - 01:28 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Saphra Deden wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

I like how people actually makes excuses of why it is ok to cheat. Sure you can make good excuses it only means that the LI meant nothing to you in the first place.

Ok come off it.

They were together for how long at most? A few weeks?

Then Shepard dies and wakes up two years later and it is still another few weeks or month until they see the VS again. When they do things don't go well and they part ways angry. Several more weeks/months go by and you don't think it is realistic for Shepad to move on? I'd expect the VS to have moved on over a year prior.

Tragic, but understandable.

Have I mentioned how much I hate agreeing with Saphra?

But he's got a point.

[TheMakoMaster]

D.Kain wrote...

I like how people actually makes excuses of why it is ok to cheat. Sure you can make good excuses it only means that the LI meant nothing to you in the first place.

my interpretion of the ashley romance was a non commital hook up to "make you happy" if i remember the line before ilos right.  i know time passes between that and shepard's death and ashley drops the L-bomb on horizon, but i don't recall selecting any dialogue option that said "i love you" or "i want to be in a long term commitment."  but that is my take on the ashley specific example, not cheating in general :innocent:

[D.Kain]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Ok come off it.

They were together for how long at most? A few weeks?

Then Shepard dies and wakes up two years later and it is still another few weeks or month until they see the VS again. When they do things don't go well and they part ways angry. Several more weeks/months go by and you don't think it is realistic for Shepad to move on? I'd expect the VS to have moved on over a year prior.

Tragic, but understandable.

I know that I wouldn't move on if I was in VS place. I also think that it was more than a few weeks. And if it was Kaidan then he was on the ship longer than Ashley.

[raziel1980]

After that Horizon fiasco with Ashley...hell yeah, I left her for Miranda...LOL. Though I will say that the rest of my sheps are either single going into ME 3(2 of them, 1 female( cuz she nukes Kaiden on virmire) n 1 male) and the other 2( one male n one female) will remain faithful to Liara, and the final one was a ME 2 created character whose background is from the genesis comic DLC.

Modifié par raziel1980, 24 octobre 2011 - 07:32 .

[D.Kain]

TheMakoMaster wrote...

my interpretion of the ashley romance was a non commital hook up to "make you happy" if i remember the line before ilos right.  i know time passes between that and shepard's death and ashley drops the L-bomb on horizon, but i don't recall selecting any dialogue option that said "i love you" or "i want to be in a long term commitment."  but that is my take on the ashley specific example, not cheating in general :innocent:

Hell yeah, all the nescecery lines were absent. I wanted to tell Liara too, that I missed her and that I am happy to see her, and that I love her.

Modifié par D.Kain, 24 octobre 2011 - 01:35 .

[snakeboy86]

I'm totally screwed because I cheated on All Of the, heh