Did you "actually" cheat.
#51
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 12:26
#52
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 12:58
I've made a LOT of Shepards and I've cheated on a few of those, but on my main 2...no...
#53
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 01:28
I'm sorry but this is BS and/or your wishful thinking. Both MIranda and Jack are two very different women whose affection you need to work hard to earn. Samara is unobtainable, determined in her resolve that Shepard cannot control who she is.Everyone seemed to agree with you, Ash was the only one to challenge your authority (when asked to speak freely).
No, your precious Ashley isn't all that special.
#54
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 01:40
False; you are not comparing like with like. Given the sorrow and loss Ash experienced over the course of the past two years, Horizon was not in any way, shape, or form the first down-moment for her. Probably not even the twentieth.teenparty wrote...
Estelindis wrote...
Anyone who bails after the first down-moment was never really in it for the long term anyway.
That's excatly the point. Only that it was Ashley who left, not Shepard.
#55
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 01:50
teenparty wrote...
After Ashley left me friendless and alone after waking up from a two year "coma" I didn't think twice about dropping her for Tali.
you joined cerberus and were vague as hell with the explanation.
#56
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 01:57
#57
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 02:03
#58
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 02:03
There is some hope however as we all ready know that Ashley is a spectre in ME3, so the issue of 'Rank and Regulations' doesn't apply as she's technically no longer a part of the alliance military. That said I'm expecting fireworks, with the crew of the Normandy racing for the escape pods when Shepard and Ashley finally have it out (and Joker recording it).
As for cheating that's the beauty of mass effect save import. My main ME1 & ME2 saves are being completely loyal to Ashley and Liara. The other 2 i have are for Tali and Miranda after breaking up with Liara. I just wonder if doing anything with Kelly will have an effect. It didn't appear to with Liara in ME2, but this could be a glitch (hope she doesn't call Kelly up on the comm in ME3).
#59
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 02:15
#60
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 02:16
Gabey5 wrote...
teenparty wrote...
After Ashley left me friendless and alone after waking up from a two year "coma" I didn't think twice about dropping her for Tali.
you joined cerberus and were vague as hell with the explanation.
THAT was the problem. Seriously what is an hour or two? Let's sit down and have a talk!
#61
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 05:30
frostajulie wrote...
its not cheating when the other party breaks up with you, walks away from you and then emails you later that they have already moved on. Oh yeah and they accuse you of being a traitor. Its a breakup if I ever heard one and you can't cheat on someone that broke up with you.
Pretty much how my Shep felt
Well with an added "to death do we part." bit/
#62
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 05:44
I hope not.
Modifié par ReallyRue, 24 octobre 2011 - 05:45 .
#63
Guest_Mr.X.Pen_*
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 06:16
Guest_Mr.X.Pen_*
Also, is it just Ash or does Kaiden hate Cerberus too?
#64
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 06:16
frostajulie wrote...
its not cheating when the other party breaks up with you, walks away from you and then emails you later that they have already moved on. Oh yeah and they accuse you of being a traitor. Its a breakup if I ever heard one and you can't cheat on someone that broke up with you.
I've never understood this viewpoint (not picking on you specifically, but I see this all the time). If you are referring to the VS, they thought Shepard was DEAD, then Shepard shows up like space jesus and is all "Oh Hai! How you doin?" while working for what the alliance considers terrorists. How should they have reacted otherwise, honestly?
Basically, this.
AdmiralCheez wrote...
Well, you know. Feelings get hurt and all that.
Ash/Kaidan
kind of thought you were dead after all. Suddenly, you're alive again,
and that causes all sorts of confused emotions. Throw in Cerberus =
does not compute, enter rage mode. I don't think (s)he had even
completely wrapped his/her head around what was going on when (s)he sent
that email.
So try seeing it from his/her perspective.
#65
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 06:44
I never cheatedRyuzetsu wrote...
By this time we have all heard that all original Love Interests from ME1 (who aren't dead) will return for ME3, and that there could be,... bum bum buum, "consequences" if you were not faithful to your previous LI. This put me to thinking, were you really unfaithful if you persued something with someone from your new crew. I played Male Shep hetero and there were 5 women who persued interest in me. If you play same sex about the same, and if you're BI, well lets say it's a target rich environment. In ME1 I chose Ashley, and then connected with Jack. Was I "unfaithful?" After all I had been clinically dead for two years, so how am I being unfaithful? This is my example. What do you think the "consequences" will entail? Will it be funny, sad, violent,...sexy? What is your take, feel free scenario or share your personal experience.
To be honest I don't care too much about consequences. What Kaidan can do with Thane? Nothing. Thane will be not present in game too long ( he will be only companion for one mission) so I can't see too much room for " dog fight" here. Plus I think, that those two are too mature to start such silly things). Maybe it will have imapct on mission where I will need Kaidan's help...maybe he will be " unloyal" and die in a result, maybe my Shepard will die, becouse of lack of Kaidan's help..who knows?
#66
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 06:50
Maybe that's just a break. Also who thinks Vir-vivor had been unfaithful to Shepard's cold corpse in those two years?frostajulie wrote...
its not cheating when the other party breaks up with you, walks away from you and then emails you later that they have already moved on. Oh yeah and they accuse you of being a traitor. Its a breakup if I ever heard one and you can't cheat on someone that broke up with you.
#67
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 06:57
Modifié par IsaacShep, 24 octobre 2011 - 06:57 .
#68
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 07:02
Canon for me:
Femshep: Kaidan as LI in ME 1, Faithful in ME 2. Ash dies on Virmire, BEFORE Therum.
Male Shepard: No LI in ME 1, Tali is LI in ME 2. Ash dies on Virmire, BEFORE Therum.
By before Therum, I mean that I do this order: Pinnacle Station, BDtS, N7 missions, Noveria, Feros (return to Citadel for those new missions here), Virmire, Therum, Ilos.
Oh, and btw: I don't like Ashley. First character was a female Shepard, and it got hooked that way.
#69
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 07:16
#70
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 07:19
#71
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 07:25
Wrathra wrote...
frostajulie wrote...
its not cheating when the other party breaks up with you, walks away from you and then emails you later that they have already moved on. Oh yeah and they accuse you of being a traitor. Its a breakup if I ever heard one and you can't cheat on someone that broke up with you.
I've never understood this viewpoint (not picking on you specifically, but I see this all the time). If you are referring to the VS, they thought Shepard was DEAD, then Shepard shows up like space jesus and is all "Oh Hai! How you doin?" while working for what the alliance considers terrorists. How should they have reacted otherwise, honestly?
With that viewpoint in mind, I'm not entirely sure how anyone could just pick up the 'relationship' with Kaidan/Ashley like nothing ever happened. I mean seriously, I can only see it going like this-
Ash/Kaidan: Shepard? You're alive? Why didn't you contact me? I grieved for so long and only just moved on.
Shepard: Yep, I'm alive again.
Ash/Kaidan: And you're working with this terroriest group that we fought several times before... did they trick you? Are they controlling you? Are you a clone, or did you come back wrong? I have so many questions, I'm so confused...
Shepard: So... would you like to have sex again?
#72
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 07:32
#73
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 07:34
darthnick427 wrote...
As I see it, Ashley broke up with Shepard on Horizon when he called him a traitor for no legit reason. I consider "cheating on the VS" moving on and the VS has no right to be mad. But with Liara...It definitely feels like cheating since she went through an entire ordeal to bring you back. She clearly cares the most about you, going off of her actions. That's why I'm mostly loyal to Liara, that relationship felt truly genuine to me even if getting with Liara was too easy.
This!
#74
Guest_Mr.X.Pen_*
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 08:01
Guest_Mr.X.Pen_*
I nearly put Morinth in there.....
#75
Posté 24 octobre 2011 - 08:21
ReallyRue wrote...
With that viewpoint in mind, I'm not entirely sure how anyone could just pick up the 'relationship' with Kaidan/Ashley like nothing ever happened. I mean seriously, I can only see it going like this-
Ash/Kaidan: Shepard? You're alive? Why didn't you contact me? I grieved for so long and only just moved on.
Shepard: Yep, I'm alive again.
Ash/Kaidan: And you're working with this terroriest group that we fought several times before... did they trick you? Are they controlling you? Are you a clone, or did you come back wrong? I have so many questions, I'm so confused...
Shepard: So... would you like to have sex again?
Haha! You know.. i have a feeling...
Seriously, though, they shouldn't be able to just pick it up again. IMO they should have to work to regain that trust, if they so choose. If not, that's cool. Don't misunderstand, I have absolutely no issue with characters moving on, they're different people than they were, etc. Maybe Shepard didn't see the entire relationship the way the VS did. There are tons of sccenarios where this makes sense. (If the VS just jumps at Shepard's first suggestion, ugh. Just no.)
My issue is the whole "the VS yelled at me and they broke my heart but I loved them so I'm going sleep with thane/miranda/jack/garrus/kelly/urz/whoever and gonna blow the VS out the airlock at the first opportunity" thing. Its the whole teenage/angst feeling about that partictular argument that makes me want to rip my hair out.
Maybe it IS an age thing, i dunno. I just want to ask people with that view point if they have any idea how relationships work. (see, i'm being an old fart).





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