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#51
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Got close with both Miranda and Tali, but told both that we needed to keep it professional so that i could continue to show my love for Ash. However, on another play through, I may start with no LI in ME1 and then develop one in ME2. I don't like the idea of just sleeping with anyone I can in either game. I believe it keeps the entire story connected through all of the games if I stay true to my LI, even if Ash moves on in ME3 (although I truly doubt this).

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Both of my canon Sheps never had an ME1 romance. My canon Femshep is still single (and might stay that way...I haven't decided), and my canon Manshep is with Tali.

I've made a LOT of Shepards and I've cheated on a few of those, but on my main 2...no...

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Everyone seemed to agree with you, Ash was the only one to challenge your authority (when asked to speak freely).

I'm sorry but this is BS and/or your wishful thinking. Both MIranda and Jack are two very different women whose affection you need to work hard to earn. Samara is unobtainable, determined in her resolve that Shepard cannot control who she is.

No, your precious Ashley isn't all that special.

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teenparty wrote...

Estelindis wrote...

Anyone who bails after the first down-moment was never really in it for the long term anyway.


That's excatly the point. Only that it was Ashley who left, not Shepard.

False; you are not comparing like with like.  Given the sorrow and loss Ash experienced over the course of the past two years, Horizon was not in any way, shape, or form the first down-moment for her.  Probably not even the twentieth.

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teenparty wrote...

After Ashley left me friendless and alone after waking up from a two year "coma" I didn't think twice about dropping her for Tali.


you joined cerberus and were vague as hell with the explanation.

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It's not cheating if you're in a different Relay Cluster.

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If you're planning to get back with the ME1, then it's either cheating or something similarly jerkish for which we lack a convenient word. If you have genuinely moved on that's different.

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For male Shepard players we've all been spoilt in ME2 because of the dlc 'Lair of the shadow broker' gave us a chance to continue our romance with Liara from ME1, so it's a safe bet that she will be with us in ME3. But with Ashley we have no idea what's going to happen, after new horizon and the letter we are in limbo.

There is some hope however as we all ready know that Ashley is a spectre in ME3, so the issue of 'Rank and Regulations' doesn't apply as she's technically no longer a part of the alliance military. That said I'm expecting fireworks, with the crew of the Normandy racing for the escape pods when Shepard and Ashley finally have it out (and Joker recording it).

As for cheating that's the beauty of mass effect save import. My main ME1 & ME2 saves are being completely loyal to Ashley and Liara. The other 2 i have are for Tali and Miranda after breaking up with Liara. I just wonder if doing anything with Kelly will have an effect. It didn't appear to with Liara in ME2, but this could be a glitch (hope she doesn't call Kelly up on the comm in ME3).

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its not cheating when the other party breaks up with you, walks away from you and then emails you later that they have already moved on. Oh yeah and they accuse you of being a traitor. Its a breakup if I ever heard one and you can't cheat on someone that broke up with you.

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Gabey5 wrote...

teenparty wrote...

After Ashley left me friendless and alone after waking up from a two year "coma" I didn't think twice about dropping her for Tali.


you joined cerberus and were vague as hell with the explanation.


THAT was the problem. Seriously what is an hour or two? Let's sit down and have a talk! 

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frostajulie wrote...

its not cheating when the other party breaks up with you, walks away from you and then emails you later that they have already moved on. Oh yeah and they accuse you of being a traitor. Its a breakup if I ever heard one and you can't cheat on someone that broke up with you.



Pretty much how my Shep felt

Well with an added "to death do we part." bit/

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Shepard flirts and has sex with them once, and they get angry because two years later, after rising from the dead and just before going on a suicide mission, Shepard has sex with someone else?

I hope not.

Modifié par ReallyRue, 24 octobre 2011 - 05:45 .


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Due to the events that occured on Horizon with Ash I left her because she mad at me for leaving and not contacting for two years. So instead I'm romancing Miranda which will not go down well in ME3 since Ash hates Cerberus.
Also, is it just Ash or does Kaiden hate Cerberus too?

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frostajulie wrote...

its not cheating when the other party breaks up with you, walks away from you and then emails you later that they have already moved on. Oh yeah and they accuse you of being a traitor. Its a breakup if I ever heard one and you can't cheat on someone that broke up with you.


I've never understood this viewpoint (not picking on you specifically, but I see this all the time). If you are referring to the VS, they thought Shepard was DEAD, then Shepard shows up like space jesus and is all "Oh Hai! How you doin?" while working for what the alliance considers terrorists. How should they have reacted otherwise, honestly?  

Basically, this.

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Well, you know. Feelings get hurt and all that.

Ash/Kaidan
kind of thought you were dead after all. Suddenly, you're alive again,
and that causes all sorts of confused emotions. Throw in Cerberus =
does not compute, enter rage mode. I don't think (s)he had even
completely wrapped his/her head around what was going on when (s)he sent
that email.

So try seeing it from his/her perspective.



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By this time we have all heard that all original Love Interests from ME1 (who aren't dead) will return for ME3, and that there could be,... bum bum buum, "consequences" if you were not faithful to your previous LI. This put me to thinking, were you really unfaithful if you persued something with someone from your new crew. I played Male Shep hetero and there were 5 women who persued interest in me. If you play same sex about the same, and if you're BI, well lets say it's a target rich environment. In ME1 I chose Ashley, and then connected with Jack. Was I "unfaithful?" After all I had been clinically dead for two years, so how am I being unfaithful? This is my example. What do you think the "consequences" will entail? Will it be funny, sad, violent,...sexy? What is your take, feel free scenario or share your personal experience.

I never cheated Image IPB..Shepard died..and this fact means that all her previous relationships are over. Did Shepard have a new relationship? Yeah almost all my Shepard moved on and start new relationship. There's only one who havn't new LI, but still don't want to continue ME1 romance in ME3 in my playthrough with her.
To be honest I don't care too much about consequences. What Kaidan can do with Thane? Nothing. Thane will be not present in game too long  ( he will be only companion for one mission) so I can't see too much room for " dog fight" here. Plus I think, that those two are too mature to start such silly things). Maybe it will have imapct on mission where I will need Kaidan's help...maybe he will be " unloyal" and die in a result, maybe my Shepard will die, becouse of lack of Kaidan's help..who knows?

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frostajulie wrote...

its not cheating when the other party breaks up with you, walks away from you and then emails you later that they have already moved on. Oh yeah and they accuse you of being a traitor. Its a breakup if I ever heard one and you can't cheat on someone that broke up with you.

Maybe that's just a break. Also who thinks Vir-vivor had been unfaithful to Shepard's cold corpse in those two years?

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My poor Shep didn't even have a possibility to cheat since he's been Forever Alone in ME1 & ME2.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 24 octobre 2011 - 06:57 .


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First off, I do remember someone saying that Love Triangles will be fixed by the end of ME 3. So that means that any LI from ME 1 will have some "air time" about any relationships that Shepard has in ME 2. What I hope is that Bioware doesn't decide that Shepard has a fling with someone during ME 2 (we already have Arrival as canon) and insist on the love Triangle.

Canon for me:
Femshep: Kaidan as LI in ME 1, Faithful in ME 2. Ash dies on Virmire, BEFORE Therum.

Male Shepard: No LI in ME 1, Tali is LI in ME 2. Ash dies on Virmire, BEFORE Therum.

By before Therum, I mean that I do this order: Pinnacle Station, BDtS, N7 missions, Noveria, Feros (return to Citadel for those new missions here), Virmire, Therum, Ilos.

Oh, and btw: I don't like Ashley. First character was a female Shepard, and it got hooked that way.

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If getting those scenes with Kelly is cheating, then yes my Shepard did. I'd calling scouting for possible prospects, if you get my drift.

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Well following the different Area Codes Rule, we all should be good.

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Wrathra wrote...

frostajulie wrote...

its not cheating when the other party breaks up with you, walks away from you and then emails you later that they have already moved on. Oh yeah and they accuse you of being a traitor. Its a breakup if I ever heard one and you can't cheat on someone that broke up with you.


I've never understood this viewpoint (not picking on you specifically, but I see this all the time). If you are referring to the VS, they thought Shepard was DEAD, then Shepard shows up like space jesus and is all "Oh Hai! How you doin?" while working for what the alliance considers terrorists. How should they have reacted otherwise, honestly?  


With that viewpoint in mind, I'm not entirely sure how anyone could just pick up the 'relationship' with Kaidan/Ashley like nothing ever happened. I mean seriously, I can only see it going like this-

Ash/Kaidan: Shepard? You're alive? Why didn't you contact me? I grieved for so long and only just moved on.
Shepard: Yep, I'm alive again.
Ash/Kaidan: And you're working with this terroriest group that we fought several times before... did they trick you? Are they controlling you? Are you a clone, or did you come back wrong? I have so many questions, I'm so confused...
Shepard: So... would you like to have sex again?

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As I see it, Ashley broke up with Shepard on Horizon when he called him a traitor for no legit reason. I consider "cheating on the VS" moving on and the VS has no right to be mad. But with Liara...It definitely feels like cheating since she went through an entire ordeal to bring you back. She clearly cares the most about you, going off of her actions. That's why I'm mostly loyal to Liara, that relationship felt truly genuine to me even if getting with Liara was too easy.

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darthnick427 wrote...

As I see it, Ashley broke up with Shepard on Horizon when he called him a traitor for no legit reason. I consider "cheating on the VS" moving on and the VS has no right to be mad. But with Liara...It definitely feels like cheating since she went through an entire ordeal to bring you back. She clearly cares the most about you, going off of her actions. That's why I'm mostly loyal to Liara, that relationship felt truly genuine to me even if getting with Liara was too easy.


This!

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Wait, will romancing Kelly or Samara have consequences in ME3 since they don't count as "actual" romances? I haven't heard much on that.
I nearly put Morinth in there.....

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ReallyRue wrote...

With that viewpoint in mind, I'm not entirely sure how anyone could just pick up the 'relationship' with Kaidan/Ashley like nothing ever happened. I mean seriously, I can only see it going like this-

Ash/Kaidan: Shepard? You're alive? Why didn't you contact me? I grieved for so long and only just moved on.
Shepard: Yep, I'm alive again.
Ash/Kaidan: And you're working with this terroriest group that we fought several times before... did they trick you? Are they controlling you? Are you a clone, or did you come back wrong? I have so many questions, I'm so confused...
Shepard: So... would you like to have sex again?


Haha! You know.. i have a feeling...

Seriously, though, they shouldn't be able to just pick it up again. IMO they should have to work to regain that trust, if they so choose.  If not, that's cool. Don't misunderstand, I have absolutely no issue with characters moving on, they're different people than they were, etc. Maybe Shepard didn't see the entire relationship the way the VS did.    There are tons of sccenarios where this makes sense.  (If the VS just jumps at Shepard's first suggestion, ugh. Just no.)

My issue is the whole "the VS yelled at me and they broke my heart but I loved them so I'm going sleep with thane/miranda/jack/garrus/kelly/urz/whoever and gonna blow the VS out the airlock at the first opportunity" thing.  Its the whole teenage/angst feeling about that partictular argument that makes me want to rip my hair out.

Maybe it IS an age thing, i dunno.  I just want to ask people with that view point if they have any idea how relationships work. (see, i'm being an old fart).