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[Tsuname]

Is Patch 1.04 in the works?

[Tokion]

I hope so! The magic resist bug that makes all self-buffs lasts for a fraction of what it advertises is game breaking. Barrier lasts for less than 1 second on my mage and haste only lasts for 3. :\\

[FaeQueenCory]

I *think* that some higher-ups said that a 1.04 patch isn't planned anytime soon....
From their tone it also seemed like there won't be any more patches... but that would just be ridiculous!
I'd expect another patch (at least a small one) before the next story DLC.

[cihimi]

With Bioware's biotech power of biotechnology, next patch will automagically make you a highly skilled player and you will be happy of your gaming uber-ness. Mommy will be proud.

[Ross42899]

Well, most major issues have been resolved in patch 1.02/1.03 but there are still some minor issues which need to be fixed.BTW: I thought patch 1.04 was already in the works.

[Tsuname]

Heeey Bioware guys, can we get a response?

[daft inquisitor]

I'll second this. AND EVERYTHING MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE NOW.

I was wondering why my Assassin's Mark would only last long enough to get out one attack, even though it's supposed to last for 20 seconds... And a lot of other things I never really thought about make sense now too. Hm.

[Gexora]

Even with patch 1/03 some save import issues are STILL not fixed. Seriously, I can't import my Warden to see everything she has done being screwed up, so I have to avoid playing DA2 in the hopes of the new patch.
Also, passive modes ain't working.
I certainly HOPE for another patch

[Shastadog]

Can't get past after killing Orsino, barrier won't drop, can't finish game, need help???

[daft inquisitor]

Umm... I don't know how a patch thread is going to help with that... Have you tried exiting the game and re-loading?

[Gorath Alpha]

Gexora, please don't continue the charade. A Pentium P4 is not going to be supported, and is not going to handle the game correctly.

[julian08]

Gexora wrote...

Even with patch 1/03 some save import issues are STILL not fixed. Seriously, I can't import my Warden to see everything she has done being screwed up, so I have to avoid playing DA2 in the hopes of the new patch.
Also, passive modes ain't working.
I certainly HOPE for another patch

I hear you. I have been going on about the import issues for ages.
The problem is that most of the savegame issues are apparently in the Origins savegames and can't be fixed via a DA2 patch. Since the latest Origins Patch still doesn't fix any of that, and has been in beta for approximately a million years anyway, I'm not holding my breath at the moment. By now, I would settle for a simple savegame editor to just pick the choices we made from a list.

Modifié par julian08, 31 octobre 2011 - 08:19 .

[cihimi]

http://social.biowar...m/project/4242/

Modifié par cihimi, 31 octobre 2011 - 09:20 .

[julian08]

Wow, that's. . .
Is this early Christmas? Are you Santa Claus?
Seriously, thanks a lot. I can't believe I didn't find this. If this works, it totally made my week.

Modifié par julian08, 01 novembre 2011 - 01:07 .

[Gexora]

I keep confusing people, sorry. I call it import issues, because it only concerns import-related plot points, but actually it is not. The game recognizes the flag, it just triggers the wrong responses.
Like for example in that one secondary playthrough I imported Alistair was a king and my warden wasn't married to him, and the game knew that, but still called had him call SOMEONE his old ball-and-chains *which is pretty annoying since I don't like Alistair*. Or bugged romances - they are recognized, correct dialogues just do not trigger

[Thandal N'Lyman]

For those who are holding their breath, the "import" issues aren't (primarily) DA2's to fix.  Most of the problems with world-state disconnects when importing into DA2 result  from using a "DAA-or-later" save as the source.

Seems DAA didn't correctly capture all the permutations coming out of DAO, so that some information simply isn't available to DA2. For example; if you put Alistair on the Throne in DAO, DAA remembered that (as it impacts one particular cutscene and convo) but didn't care about your relationship status with him (since there wasn't any "relationship" with him to track in DAA.) DA2 is then left to fill in the blank and defaults to "In_Love" because it can't pull-up the actual setting. 

The "fix" would require some major re-coding of DAA, and then a full replay from DAA onwards, (so possibly GoA and WH as well) to "get it right". BioWare doesn't think it's worth the effort, either for them or for the players, since the glitches don't have any gameplay or world-state impacts in DA2.

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 02 novembre 2011 - 05:40 .

[Gexora]

Thandal NLyman, I can only point you to my above post.
*points*
I see *Leliana threesome* flag active in my save, Leliana and Isabela don't talk about it - and many things like that. Minor, maybe, but ANNOYING AS HELL.
Also, even if plot issues do not get fixed - there is still thousands of issues. Does anyone else have to change their two-hander's weapon before evry save?

[nightscrawl]

Thandal NLyman wrote...

For example; if you put Alistair on the Throne in DAO, DAA remembered that (as it impacts one particular cutscene and convo) but didn't care about your relationship status with him (since there wasn't any "relationship" with him to track in DAA.) DA2 is then left to fill in the blank and defaults to "In_Love" because it can't pull-up the actual setting.

This isn't really accurate as far as DAA not caring about your relationship to Alistair. If you are together with him at the end of DAO (for myself: mage Warden, hardened Alistair, crowned king, stay together) during that one scene in DAA he uses "love" when referring to you and gives you a kiss goodbye. On the other hand, if you are not in a relationship with him but still crowned him, he is friendly and laments not being able to help with these darkspawn, but that's all.

Gexora wrote...

I see *Leliana threesome* flag active in my save, Leliana and Isabela don't talk about it - and many things like that.

Perhaps this might just be an issue with a Leliana romance import, but when I had my Alistair threesome, on talking to Isabela for this first time she says "I even met the Hero of Ferelden, if you know what I mean." She did not say this in my non-threesome import, that is how I know it was a veiled reference to the threesome, and not something else.


As far as a 1.04 patch goes, we do need one. True there are issues that have been in the game since launch, but there were also issues introduced with 1.03 (like the Sunder bug) that really need to be fixed.

[Thandal N'Lyman]

Well, Alistair was "In_Love" with my Warden, but unable to marry (race/class diferences) after becoming King, and then wouldn't kiss her at the gate of Vigil's Keep...

Forget him!  I'm going to load-up the "Equal Love" mod and replay as a Human Noble who marries Anora!

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 03 novembre 2011 - 06:09 .

[nightscrawl]

Thandal NLyman wrote...

Well, Alistair was "In_Love" with my Warden, but unable to marry (race/class diferences) after becoming King, and then wouldn't kiss her at the gate of Vigil's Keep...

Forget him!  I'm going to load-up the "Equal Love" mod and replay as a Human Noble who marries Anora!

This is going off topic of patch 1.04 really, but in order to stay together (being married is NOT required) after the Landsmeet after you make him king you have to meet certain requirements: you have to "harden" him after you meet his sister, and then after the Landsmeet you need to choose the dialogue option "Nobody can force the king to do anything he doesn't want to" when talking to him just after the Landsmeet is over.

I will add though that I can't say whether this works for non-humans. Though I don't know why it wouldn't since you are not marrying him and not becoming queen. Using the above method, I've been able to do this with Alistair about three times now. It definitely works.

Origins especially (quite a bit more than DA2 I think) rewards meta-gaming by having so many different outcomes result from companion relationship and dialogue choices. If you know certain outcomes are possible, which I suggest you look for by reading the potential epilogues, you would do well to use the DA wiki and follow all of the various guides to get exactly the result you want.


All of that aside, I'm not sure how it affects the Alistair dialogue in DA2. The only thing I have to go on is a bit of dialogue when Alistair is getting ready to leave. Teagan mentions that "the Hero of Ferelden should be back in Denerin by now," to which Alistair replies: "You're always so formal. She has a name you know." According to the wiki, there is really no dialogue that reflects "in-relationship status, but not married;" as the other ones are "married to the Warden (queen Warden);" "married to Anora, but still with the Warden;" or "not married, ambiguous relationship." I find it all rather odd.

One of my recurring issues is that I feel if I am going to invest the time to play through DAO/DAA for the fourth or fifth time (80+ hours for everything), I want to play it in the way I know I will enjoy it best, which basically means playing out the plot and results in the same way every time. This doesn't give me the opportunity to test out other scenarios, so I have to go on other people's accounts, or rely on the wiki.


At any rate, back to 1.04... I would just be happy if A Study of the Fifth Blight, Vols. One and Two were fixed/accurate >.>.

[Thandal N'Lyman]

nightscrawl wrote...
... if I am going to invest the time to play through DAO/DAA for the fourth or fifth time

Only fourth or fifth?!?

I'm probabaly on my 12th (plus partials) and am still encountering new dialogues and banter.  (And still  can't force myself to play as a selfish b*******, so have missed that whole spectrum of responses!)  The writing for DAO was jsut phenomenal. 

DAA suffered (by comparison) from the lack of any LI relationships/rivalries, and DA2 was (imo) simply rushed.  The core team was the same, but wasn't given enough time to really knock it out of the park.

[Tsuname]

Hey Bioware guys, can anyone answer or provide some info please?

[Gorath Alpha]

Don't forget, they do not monitor all threads. This is a gamer to gamer forum, and they pick and choose only an occasional interaction here.

[PSUHammer]

I got the impression that they fixed most of the issues already as of 1.03. The import bugs harken back to the way the game saves were handled and exported from DAO and they said they may or may not go back and fix that. It all depends on resources and how many people are even still playing that game.