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[HoonDing]

Some questions regarding these spells:

1) are there any spell protections that protect against it? It seems to pierce both Spell trap and Spell turning.

2) how do I get rid of it, once contracted? Dispel Magic/Remove Magic doesn't seem to work. Even Keldorn can't dispel it.

[morbidest2]

Clean Air??? The problem is that unless you have a magic user far enough away to not be infested, you can't cast any spell until the Insect menace is over and done with. One more reason to always have your own druid in your party; "nature's magic" really works, particularly when combined with a mage casting Breach or Pierce.

[Humanoid_Taifun]

Spell Immunity is your best bet against them, but Magic Resistance works too. Stoneskins work partially IIRC (up to 10 hits, which isn't much in regards to these spells).
With Spell Revisions and/or SCS, Fire Shields should work as well.

[morbidest2]

So, basically, except for Viconia, nothing works, since few members of a party of 6 will have spell immunity at the time of the Druid Grove, and even in the north of Suldanesselar in chap. 6.

[Alesia_BH]

As HT noted, Spell Immunity: Conjuration works for Arcane casters and they are the ones most hindered by it. It's basically just an annoyance for warriors and such.

If one of more of your arcane casters lacks SI, you can have them flip to Jelly form before the insects hit- the 100% Magic Resistance will stop it.

If bugs really give you the willies and you want to keep everyone protected, you can foil it at the targeting phase by keeping everyone either Invisible or Improved Invisible. Also, if you are worried about the Level 3 spell, Summon Insects, Limited Wish: I Wish to Make My Party Invulnerable will give everyone their very own mosquito net.

Note also that the casting time on Insect Plague is a full round and the time on Summon Insects is 9 so you have a large window to disrupt- just listen for the Conjuration incantation and put the hurt on the grungy-mossy guy waiving his hands around.

Anyhoo. You don't have to let the buggy-wuggs spoil your afternoon. 

Best,

A.

Modifié par Alesia_BH, 25 octobre 2011 - 03:19 .

[HoonDing]

Jaheira got hit by an Insect Plague by one of Ployer's evil "wizards" (the girl really couldn't catch a break). Apparently they weren't wizards at all. The robes must've fooled me.

Modifié par virumor, 25 octobre 2011 - 08:22 .

[Alesia_BH]

virumor wrote...
Jaheira got hit by an Insect Plague by one of Ployer's evil "wizards" (the girl really couldn't catch a break). Apparently they weren't wizards at all. The robes must've fooled me.

Sneaky...Next thing you now, those cagey Druids will be showing up as fat commoners...Now you know though right?

Speaking of sneaky...If an enemy mage tries to evade your Insect Plagues by remaining untargettable, toss a sword or whatever on the ground and use that as a target. The insects will spread to your foes.

Best,

A.

Modifié par Alesia_BH, 25 octobre 2011 - 03:38 .

[Gate70]

virumor wrote...
Jaheira got hit by an Insect Plague by one of Ployer's evil "wizards" (the girl really couldn't catch a break). Apparently they weren't wizards at all. The robes must've fooled me.

Hmm. Maybe they had a protection that deflected spells back to the originator (I pay very little attention to defensive spells). I'm fairly sure Firkraag insect plagued Jaheira this way in one of my recent runs.

[Grond0]

Yes I've seen that happen a few times. As a result I now normally aim insect plague at someone other than a wizard, i.e. Baron Ployer in this example (though Alesia's suggestion also works).

[Alesia_BH]

Yeah. If you target someone running Spell Turning, the insects can be reflected.

If, however, you target someone without Spell Turning the insects can spread to someone running Spell Turning

That's why Grond0's suggestion works even if Spell Turning is on the field. It is also why you may have noticed party members protected by Spell Turning getting bitten.

The same thing is true of Magic Resistance. If say, Jan, is targeted, and he goes Jelly before the insects reach him, that will foil it. But if Keldorn is targeted and Jan is next to him in Jelly form, the insects can still spread to Jan.

Best,

A.


Btw. I can't comment on the Ployer encounter since it's been over a decade since I've done it. The Spell Turning explanation seems to make more sense than the "well dressed druid" hypothesis though.

Modifié par Alesia_BH, 25 octobre 2011 - 09:37 .

[polytope]

virumor wrote...
2) how do I get rid of it, once contracted? Dispel Magic/Remove Magic doesn't seem to work. Even Keldorn can't dispel it.

Insect Plague/Creeping Doom can be dispelled, you just can't cast dispel while under the effects of it. Arrows of dispelling are useful to remove Creeping Doom or the black dragon's insects (massive damage over time, especially if you're hasted as that causes them to tick twice as frequently)

[The Potty 1]

A friendly tap with the SotM or Firkraag's dispelling sword also sort it out, along with all of your protection spells of course.

[BBMorti]

Alesia_BH wrote...

Yeah. If you target someone running Spell Turning, the insects can be reflected.

If, however, you target someone without Spell Turning the insects can spread to someone running Spell Turning

That's why Grond0's suggestion works even if Spell Turning is on the field. It is also why you may have noticed party members protected by Spell Turning getting bitten.

The same thing is true of Magic Resistance. If say, Jan, is targeted, and he goes Jelly before the insects reach him, that will foil it. But if Keldorn is targeted and Jan is next to him in Jelly form, the insects can still spread to Jan.

Best,

A.


Btw. I can't comment on the Ployer encounter since it's been over a decade since I've done it. The Spell Turning explanation seems to make more sense than the "well dressed druid" hypothesis though.

That is too long ago Alesia, you were who I found the most creative back when you first joined in on the no reload threads on the old fora's.

Out of curiousness, what do you play now a days? 

Modifié par BBMorti, 27 octobre 2011 - 08:07 .