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Are there any good spears out there?


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Centra28

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I've chosen to persure the Storm Lord prestige class, and to fight with a spear.  I loot magical weapons of all sorts, but have yet to see anything special in regards to spears.  I did just craft a spear out of Zalantar, and it the only difference is the +1 magical damage that I could tell.  Are there any named spears worth seeking out?

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If you're talking about the OC, there's an awesome spear for sale in Blacklake once you finally get in. You have to be a Sorceror, though (or invest in Use Magic Device skill). Bring lots of gold.

There are some other decent ones, including a couple you'll find (not buy), but you can probably craft something better than any of them. Don't use special wood, though, that just wastes an enchantment slot.

Modifié par I_Raps, 24 octobre 2011 - 10:17 .


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hm... i haven't even looked at enchanting items. is that feat required to do so?

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Yes, you need Craft Magical Arms and Armour. One of your companions could do your crafting for you, however. I think I made Elannee a simple but functional Shocking Spear +5 (+1d6 electrical). IIRC I didn't even add a third enchantment and it was already better than most things you'll find. If you're playing a Stormlord though you'll probably want something other than electrical since I think you get that anyway. Acid is probably best.

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If u take Stormlord your wepon will upgrade itself as you progress and damage wise Stormlord have special abilties that add extra oomph to poky stick.2 good spears are Captin's and Fey spear

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The Fred wrote...

Yes, you need Craft Magical Arms and Armour. One of your companions could do your crafting for you, however. I think I made Elannee a simple but functional Shocking Spear +5 (+1d6 electrical). IIRC I didn't even add a third enchantment and it was already better than most things you'll find. If you're playing a Stormlord though you'll probably want something other than electrical since I think you get that anyway. Acid is probably best.


I have Khelgar doing my crafting.

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Arkalezth

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Khelgar can craft mundane equipment, but only spellcasters can enchant and add magical properties.

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ah ok. thanks for heads up.

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Yah I did a Sorceror Spear Mage on a playthrough a while back and I just took my spear and built up on it. I think you get a +1 some where early, but nothing big. Storm lords do get some nifty add on's for there spear though. Than again by time you get to that level you should be gettting Qura so she can do your enchantments or you could do them your self as a cleric.

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It has been a couple of years since I played the OC but I seem to recall a spear called the "Captain's Spear". I am not sure where you get it, I think it is in a cave somewhere. I think you get it about halfway through. I can't remember the specifics but I remember being somewhat disappointed that my character was not set up for spears.

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M. Rieder wrote...

It has been a couple of years since I played the OC but I seem to recall a spear called the "Captain's Spear". I am not sure where you get it, I think it is in a cave somewhere.


I believe you find it in Chapter 2, possibly in Blacklake somewhere, but don’t quote me on that. It’s +3 and has added enchantments, and is this probably one of the best weapons you can find in the game. Unfortunately, I’ve never played a character that actually used a spear, so I usually just give it to Zhjaeve.

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likeorasgod wrote...

Yah I did a Sorceror Spear Mage on a playthrough a while back and I just took my spear and built up on it. I think you get a +1 some where early, but nothing big. Storm lords do get some nifty add on's for there spear though. Than again by time you get to that level you should be gettting Qura so she can do your enchantments or you could do them your self as a cleric.


anyone giving Qara enchantment feats is completely wasting her usefulness. She is a nuker, nothing more, nothing less. Any feats not given to Spell Penetration, Metamagic feats or spell focus (Aside from perhaps toughness) is wasting her potential.
Elanee makes the best early enchanter, Sand of course is in another league as an actual Enchanter... the bonus wizard feats make him the ideal enchantment choice. 

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devilsgrin wrote...

anyone giving Qara enchantment feats is completely wasting her usefulness. She is a nuker, nothing more, nothing less. Any feats not given to Spell Penetration, Metamagic feats or spell focus (Aside from perhaps toughness) is wasting her potential.
Elanee makes the best early enchanter, Sand of course is in another league as an actual Enchanter... the bonus wizard feats make him the ideal enchantment choice. 

And anyone taking Spell Penetration in the OC doesn't know how that feat works. Its only use is against enemies with SR, and 99% of OC's enemies don't have it.

If you mean that Sand's magic school is enchantment, that's wrong, he's a transmuter. Not that the school makes a difference when enchanting, mind you, other than the required spells you may not be able to cast (conjuration in Sand's case).

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Sand's bonus feats do lend him to being an enchanter, but to be honest you don't lose much if you give them to Qara, because it's not like you'd want to take her with you. The problem with that tactic is that Qara only learns a few spells each level - apart from Conjuration, Sand can scribe and thus cast anything wizardly, meaning he can craft a lot of things without wrecking his combat capabilities.

I would probably give Sand Craft Magical Arms and Armour, and Elanee Craft Wonderous Item, or something like that. It's not like you even really need to craft that much (or at all, tbh), the crafted items are potentially so powerful anyway.

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Warlocks are good for crafting too (once they reach level 12), but I don't know if Ammon has any feat slot left by the time you get him.

The best you can do is to make your crafter some character you don't usually travel with, and focus on combat feats with the ones who do. But it's not like you need an optimized party for the OC.

Modifié par Arkalezth, 16 janvier 2012 - 01:57 .


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devilsgrin wrote...

likeorasgod wrote...

Yah I did a Sorceror Spear Mage on a playthrough a while back and I just took my spear and built up on it. I think you get a +1 some where early, but nothing big. Storm lords do get some nifty add on's for there spear though. Than again by time you get to that level you should be gettting Qura so she can do your enchantments or you could do them your self as a cleric.


anyone giving Qara enchantment feats is completely wasting her usefulness. She is a nuker, nothing more, nothing less. Any feats not given to Spell Penetration, Metamagic feats or spell focus (Aside from perhaps toughness) is wasting her potential.
Elanee makes the best early enchanter, Sand of course is in another league as an actual Enchanter... the bonus wizard feats make him the ideal enchantment choice. 

You apparently didn't notice what I said I was playing.  A Sorceror Spear Mage...which has alot more nukeing power than she would ever and can still destroy some one in a good face to face fight most times.   So she does all my early enchantments (at that level it's just arms and weapons) until I get sand.  I do use Elaanee for such most playthroughs I don't have a mage or cleric type char.  Remember not every type of enchanment can be done by one char. 

I'm loveing that play through right now cause I got Kelg welding dual dwarven axe's.  One fire and the otehr will be cold.  He defently is not going to be come a monk I'm sure....we like killing things together.  I got a level of rouge on my char or two so I don't take Nesh as much...so It's normal El with us and than the last one is now Sand or Bishop depending where I'm heading.  Just finished the Trial though so got alot of growing still to do until the end.

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thanks for all the info. i found the fey spear and that is what i am using currently. i have yet to come across the captain's spear. the fey spear, i believe, is magic +1. i was using a crafted spear that was enchantment +1. what do these mean? the weapons such as rapier +1 or longsword +2. what does the +number do?

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+1 weapon = +1 AB (Attack Bonus) and +1 damage.