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[sunnydxmen]

how come tallis is the only rogue who throws daggers ?

[ladyofdragons]

Isabela has. Has she not? In the trailer, I think in a cut scene somewhere too....

[sunnydxmen]

in gameplay tallis can throw daggers at enemies from a distance no other rogue can do that,

[Heidenreich]

They went over it when they announced it. Talis is spechul.

[sunnydxmen]

thats what i thought too not even hawke throws daggers in he the main

[MG800]

She has a special power of throwing objects.
I'm glad they don't. Playing circus gets old after a while. (But I still dig this Harlequin outfit)
There is a mod that makes Hawke and Isabela throw daggers in combat, if you're interested.

[Gervaise]

Both Isabella and Zevran are shown in cut scenes as throwing daggers. I wasn't aware that Tallis was actually doing it in gameplay. Still Hawke has the advantage of being able to do archery as well as dual wielding and a bow does a hell of a lot more damage than a dagger. Then again, other mages appear to be able to disappear and relocate in another location, which as far as I am aware neither Hawke or companions can do. Some people have obviously received a different training - makes sense I suppose.

[Knight of Dane]

Gervaise wrote...

Both Isabella and Zevran are shown in cut scenes as throwing daggers. I wasn't aware that Tallis was actually doing it in gameplay. Still Hawke has the advantage of being able to do archery as well as dual wielding and a bow does a hell of a lot more damage than a dagger. Then again, other mages appear to be able to disappear and relocate in another location, which as far as I am aware neither Hawke or companions can do. Some people have obviously received a different training - makes sense I suppose.

Now that you mention that i came to wonder why it is all enemy mages have such wicked spells but all are so squishy.

[sunnydxmen]

it seems to me the developer is exmperimenting with tallis her long range daggers could be in the
da3 game,  i see all class having long range attacks in da 3  in telepoting mages how do templars catch them answer they dont ,

[Knight of Dane]

No, Felicia Day asked for it because she thinks it's awesumez and they agreed and then they celebrated and made it happen.

[Meeszy Alexy]

Am I the only one here that a) Killed that slaver guy that had Feynriel and Killed Javaris? Because daggers were thrown then, and the first example was rogue-only, and also freaking awesome.

But game-play wise, it was probably done because they could. Don't really care, it's not like it's a powerful attack (or so I remember...)

[sunnydxmen]

yeah but why she get to be the only rogue with long range attacks if theres an expansion which i doubt sence they working da3 already really ?

[thats1evildude]

ladyofdragons wrote...

Isabela has. Has she not? In the trailer, I think in a cut scene somewhere too....

She sticks one of Hayder's companions with a throwing dagger when they meet in the Chantry.

[Quething]

Meeszy Alexy wrote...

Don't really care, it's not like it's a powerful attack (or so I remember...)

In fact Tallis' throwing daggers do about 15% less damage per hit than melee daggers of an equal level.

[Heidenreich]

No she throws her dagger, she doesn't throw throwing daggers (In reference to Isabela).

As for teleporting mages, it's a game-mechanic and not a lore fact. If you read the codex about magic, mages aren't supposed to be able to teleport ANYWHERE. Because Thedasian Magic is not "a cure all", which is why the DA world is low-fantasy instead of high.

[Knight of Dane]

Heidenreich wrote...

No she throws her dagger, she doesn't throw throwing daggers (In reference to Isabela).

As for teleporting mages, it's a game-mechanic and not a lore fact. If you read the codex about magic, mages aren't supposed to be able to teleport ANYWHERE. Because Thedasian Magic is not "a cure all", which is why the DA world is low-fantasy instead of high.

Well, it's good that they aren't in fact teleporting then, if you go to the brecillian forest with Wynne (or Morrigan?) in DA:O they will explain that the Hermit uses illusions that looks like teleporting, i suspect this will be the explanation you'll get for the Kirkwall mages too.

[ReallyRue]

Velanna also seems to teleport, in a nature-y way. In cutscenes.

Edit: And as far as gameplay teleportation is concerned, both Merrill's Stone's Throw spell, and the rogues' Back-to-Back ability seem to involve teleporting. Backstab in general does too. It's just a combat thing.

Modifié par ReallyRue, 26 octobre 2011 - 06:21 .

[Knight of Dane]

Yep and the explanation we'll get is still illusions, Mages uses mirror-images and Rogues stealth.

If the warrior ever got a talent like it it'd prolly be super speed, ala Meredith's jump of fate in the end.

[esper]

ReallyRue wrote...

Velanna also seems to teleport, in a nature-y way. In cutscenes.

Edit: And as far as gameplay teleportation is concerned, both Merrill's Stone's Throw spell, and the rogues' Back-to-Back ability seem to involve teleporting. Backstab in general does too. It's just a combat thing.

Merrill stone thrown spell makes her move through the undeground so far as I remember. I supect that Velanna's was the same spell as it looked the same. 

[Knight of Dane]

Yep, tree roots up, *insert tentacle råpe joke here*, goes through earth, tentacles... i mean roots... go up, bam.

[DrFumb1ezX]

Throwing daggers is cool, don't get me wrong, but why should I throw a measly knife at someone, when an arrow has much more force?
Plus, when you throw daggers, you won't always hit with the blade, they can break, you are far more likely to miss than with an arrow, and finally, you're throwing a perfectly good weapon away. WHY?!
(BTW, I may just have used realism to describe a fantasy land with dragons, elves, magic, and BFS. YMMV.)

[ReallyRue]

esper wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

Velanna also seems to teleport, in a nature-y way. In cutscenes.

Edit: And as far as gameplay teleportation is concerned, both Merrill's Stone's Throw spell, and the rogues' Back-to-Back ability seem to involve teleporting. Backstab in general does too. It's just a combat thing.

Merrill stone thrown spell makes her move through the undeground so far as I remember. I supect that Velanna's was the same spell as it looked the same. 

Huh, I imagine the non-Dalish mages probably move in a similar way then. But with fewer plants involved.

[Super_Cat]

It gives her something unique and interesting. She's a temporary DLC quest only companion, so it's interesting they gave her something to make her different from other dual weapon rogues, besides her unique specialization abilities.

[AntiChri5]

sunnydxmen wrote...

yeah but why she get to be the only rogue with long range attacks if theres an expansion which i doubt sence they working da3 already really ?

Yes, because Archery does not exist.

Neither do Varric or Sebastian.

[jamesp81]

Meeszy Alexy wrote...

Am I the only one here that a) Killed that slaver guy that had Feynriel and Killed Javaris? Because daggers were thrown then, and the first example was rogue-only, and also freaking awesome.

But game-play wise, it was probably done because they could. Don't really care, it's not like it's a powerful attack (or so I remember...)

When I did my first rogue playthrough with the slaver that took Feynriel, I man squeed like mad when he get the airborne murder knife.

Honestly, I like how certain classes get moments of awesome like that.  I really enjoyed playing a warrior and HawkePunching the hunger demon in the deep roads too.