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[Bluko]

Hmm few more things to note about ME1.

ME1 is a much more challenging game then ME2. You can't run into room, take cover, pew pew pew, and expect to win like you often can in ME2. You're going to have to use your noggin a little to devise ways to deal with certain encounters. You must make good use of your abilities and squadmates.

Also enemies are actually dangerous in ME1. Snipers can kill you in one hit, though you'll see their laser sight beforehand, and rockets are equally deadly. Krogan are also serious business in ME1. Still I suggest you play the game on Normal and only go down to Casual if you're really stuck. ME1 requires you be methodical and tactical where as ME2 is more about being quick and efficient. ME1's gameplay therefore can be off-putting at first, but taking the time to understand all the ins-and-outs will greatly pay off.

Frankly I find ME1's Insanity difficultly as much fun as ME2's Insanity. Both are niether really all that fun and simply make battles drag out longer then they need to be and are there mainly for the masochists. In ME1 enemies spam immunity taking forever to kill and in ME2 everything gets additional protection rendering many abilities largely useless.


Also ME1 has a bad habit of slowing down after Eden Prime. I know my first time I gave up playing cause it seemed I was trapped on the Citadel. Once you get out into the Galaxy the game becomes a lot more fun. Again some of the side missions and inventory management can get tedious at times but if can get over those humps ME1 is an experience that can't be beat.

[Ghost-621]

Bluko wrote...

Hmm few more things to note about ME1.

ME1 is a much more challenging game then ME2. You can't run into room, take cover, pew pew pew, and expect to win like you often can in ME2. You're going to have to use your noggin a little to devise ways to deal with certain encounters. You must make good use of your abilities and squadmates.

Also enemies are actually dangerous in ME1. Snipers can kill you in one hit, though you'll see their laser sight beforehand, and rockets are equally deadly. Krogan are also serious business in ME1. Still I suggest you play the game on Normal and only go down to Casual if you're really stuck. ME1 requires you be methodical and tactical where as ME2 is more about being quick and efficient. ME1's gameplay therefore can be off-putting at first, but taking the time to understand all the ins-and-outs will greatly pay off.

Frankly I find ME1's Insanity difficultly as much fun as ME2's Insanity. Both are niether really all that fun and simply make battles drag out longer then they need to be and are there mainly for the masochists. In ME1 enemies spam immunity taking forever to kill and in ME2 everything gets additional protection rendering many abilities largely useless.


Also ME1 has a bad habit of slowing down after Eden Prime. I know my first time I gave up playing cause it seemed I was trapped on the Citadel. Once you get out into the Galaxy the game becomes a lot more fun. Again some of the side missions and inventory management can get tedious at times but if can get over those humps ME1 is an experience that can't be beat.

This sums up why the combat was better in ME1. Less Pew Pew. More thinking. More actual challenge. Was it perfect? No, but at least it wasn't a cheap third person shooter.

[sg1fan75]

yes get it the story rocks.

[Bcuz]

Bluko wrote...

Hmm few more things to note about ME1.

ME1 is a much more challenging game then ME2. You can't run into room, take cover, pew pew pew, and expect to win like you often can in ME2. You're going to have to use your noggin a little to devise ways to deal with certain encounters. You must make good use of your abilities and squadmates.

Also enemies are actually dangerous in ME1. Snipers can kill you in one hit, though you'll see their laser sight beforehand, and rockets are equally deadly. Krogan are also serious business in ME1. Still I suggest you play the game on Normal and only go down to Casual if you're really stuck. ME1 requires you be methodical and tactical where as ME2 is more about being quick and efficient. ME1's gameplay therefore can be off-putting at first, but taking the time to understand all the ins-and-outs will greatly pay off.

Frankly I find ME1's Insanity difficultly as much fun as ME2's Insanity. Both are niether really all that fun and simply make battles drag out longer then they need to be and are there mainly for the masochists. In ME1 enemies spam immunity taking forever to kill and in ME2 everything gets additional protection rendering many abilities largely useless.


Also ME1 has a bad habit of slowing down after Eden Prime. I know my first time I gave up playing cause it seemed I was trapped on the Citadel. Once you get out into the Galaxy the game becomes a lot more fun. Again some of the side missions and inventory management can get tedious at times but if can get over those humps ME1 is an experience that can't be beat.

ME2s insanity was much better than ME1s, in that you could actually make battles go smoothly if you had a clue what you were doing.

I find the whole, wall up in a corner, thing applies better to ME1 than two actually...

I agree with you on snipers. I miss my O S*!T FIND A ROCK moments.

[AdmiralCheez]

OH GOD NOT THE RED BEAM OF DEATH.

[Bcuz]

Ghost-621 wrote...

Bluko wrote...

Hmm few more things to note about ME1.

ME1 is a much more challenging game then ME2. You can't run into room, take cover, pew pew pew, and expect to win like you often can in ME2. You're going to have to use your noggin a little to devise ways to deal with certain encounters. You must make good use of your abilities and squadmates.

Also enemies are actually dangerous in ME1. Snipers can kill you in one hit, though you'll see their laser sight beforehand, and rockets are equally deadly. Krogan are also serious business in ME1. Still I suggest you play the game on Normal and only go down to Casual if you're really stuck. ME1 requires you be methodical and tactical where as ME2 is more about being quick and efficient. ME1's gameplay therefore can be off-putting at first, but taking the time to understand all the ins-and-outs will greatly pay off.

Frankly I find ME1's Insanity difficultly as much fun as ME2's Insanity. Both are niether really all that fun and simply make battles drag out longer then they need to be and are there mainly for the masochists. In ME1 enemies spam immunity taking forever to kill and in ME2 everything gets additional protection rendering many abilities largely useless.


Also ME1 has a bad habit of slowing down after Eden Prime. I know my first time I gave up playing cause it seemed I was trapped on the Citadel. Once you get out into the Galaxy the game becomes a lot more fun. Again some of the side missions and inventory management can get tedious at times but if can get over those humps ME1 is an experience that can't be beat.

This sums up why the combat was better in ME1. Less Pew Pew. More thinking. More actual challenge. Was it perfect? No, but at least it wasn't a cheap third person shooter.

Thinking? let me summarize it for you.
Sniper rifle DEAD
Sniper rifle DEAD
Sniper rifle DEAD
Sniper rifle DEAD
Sniper rifle DEAD
Sniper rifle DEAD
ooo one got close Shotgun DEAD

I dont hate ME1 combat, but ME2s actually had a set of skills to master, even after talent trees were maxed.

Modifié par Bcuz, 26 octobre 2011 - 01:59 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Another protip: Assault/rocket drones aren't affected by biotic/weapon force (stasis and warp still work, but no lift/throw/what-have-you). So don't try to knock them over, and you sure as hell don't want the rocket drones getting close. The little buggers have a habit of sneaking around crates and blasting you in the face. On higher difficulties, this is a one-hit kill.

[Bluko]

NaclynE wrote...
I found Infiltrator more enjoyable to play in 2. I hated haveing to put a ton of points into sniper rifle to stop playing the game like METAL GEAR SOLID 2.

Yeah I know in ME1 first time as soldier I was wondering what the heck was up with the scope sway. Sniping those Geth on the train cars was beyond ridiculous. The amount of inaccuracy you have during those first couple levels makes using anything but the Pistol/AR. Eden Prime is cool, but it does a terrible job as a tutorial for the game.

NaclynE wrote...
However when maxed yeah I can drop a Amature (the small geth tanks) almost like nothing with ASSASSINATE. The tech abilities were ok were you can explode things or debuff sheilds. Infiltrators were better in 2 because of the slow move bonus for snipeing, the fire ball ability, and the ability to turn on cloak when things get heavy.

Hmm I tried an Inflitrator once in ME2 and I just couldn't get into it. The Slow-Mo sniping is nifty, if perhaps a tad OP especially with the Widow. Although I really started to curse the obnoxious aim assist.

I never found much use for cloaking other then the additional damage. I don't really find it useful to hide from enemies as you can't recover any HP while doing so and it rarely lasts long enough to really let you move to a safer location. Also when I cloaked it more often then not result in my squadmates getting killed by the excess of gunfire aimed at them. It's sort of useful for CQC, but honestly I'd rather use GSB then Cloak 90% of the time.

NaclynE wrote...
However I prefered adapts in 1 since you get LIFT which launches guys to the sky, THROW to get free shots in, SINGULARITY to launch or throw guys like THROW and LIFT, and BARRIER to last longer.

Yeah I miss Lift the most in ME2. Pull is a rather poor substitute which really only aides those with Shotguns that can't do squat out of point blank range.

NaclynE wrote...
Also if you die at times, you have to restart on a planet from scratch unless you saved alot.

Yeah you need to save often in ME1. One nice thing about ME2 is it does feature frequent Checkpoints so you don't have to manual save every 10 minutes.

[itzLWM]

Infiltrator is good.

Im always an Engineer, but Infiltrator is my 2nd fav.

I loved ME2, and I went and bought ME1 after i had finished 2. I still like ME2 more, but ME1 taught me some serious stuff about the ME universe.

Highly recommend it!

[Bluko]

Bcuz wrote...

ME2s insanity was much better than ME1s, in that you could actually make battles go smoothly if you had a clue what you were doing.

I find the whole, wall up in a corner, thing applies better to ME1 than two actually...

I agree with you on snipers. I miss my O S*!T FIND A ROCK moments.

I guess. I dunno I just found myself camping certain cover points in ME2 killing the waves of advancing enemies first and then getting the buggers hiding behind cover. True in ME1 enemies namely bum rush, but honestly this actually forced me to move. I didn't feel 100% safe in cover like I do with ME2. I mean unless you get flanked in ME2 or are out in the open it's pretty hard to get yourself killed. There were certain points (the land bases in ME1) where you'd most likely end up camping the hallway door or something, but that doesn't bother me quite so much as the certain cover pieces 

ME1 was really only bad on Insanity when you were faced with Mercs/Krogan who spam Immunity to be damn near invincible. Wrex's Mission was probably the hardest part of the game. Most of the other enemies did not take that long to kill IMO.

Honestly the impression I got from everyone that ME1 on Insanity was going to be the worst thing ever. Sure there's a few bad spots like Chora's Den (ME2 has Horizon and the Collector Ship) but really I find both games equally annoying/tedious on Insanity. Only reason Insanity seems less bad in ME2 is because you really aren't that much more fragile then you are on Normal.

If you wish to experience true butthurt and test your patience play CoD: WaW on Veteran. It never ceases to amaze me how the Japanese/Germans can throw 3-5 grenades all at once and land directly at my feet. Them some mighty fine Grenadiers.

[The Spamming Troll]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...


im not sure how you can be unaware of the backwards progresion your character makes from ME1 to ME2.

ME1 shepard would DESTROY ME2 shepard.

um...no.

Me2 Shepard can:
slow time to a halt and shoot faster than anyone
teleport and slam soeone into oblivion
cast a decoy drone that can explode and knick out opponents
add an extra barrier of protection that pulses when it's destroyed
toss a blackhole into the middle of the field
and also turn invisible

and that's just the class powers don'te ven get me started on Reave.

pft. you named 6 ME2 shepards. im not saying warp is better in ME1 or ME1s melee is better then ME3s omniblade. what im saying is one ME1 soldier can activate immunity, throw a singularity, then see the credits roll. ME2 shepard is barely more capable then random merc # 37, and those mercs dont even get abilities or heavy weapons, and have ****ty AI. hell ME2s heavy singularity is barely any better then ME1s bastion stasis, and thats the adepts signature ability for cripes sakes.

il finish with stasis > all other bonus abilities

now I see why you call yourself the spamming troll.  Newsflash ME 1 and ME 2 Shepard is the same dude.  And from a lore standpoint ME 2 Shepard has been upgraded not to mention there are shepard specific upgrades you could research on the normandy.

using your logic ME1 shepard only needs as long as it takes to activate one abilitity to win a fight. ME2 shepard would just cause minor inconvenient half second staggers on ME1 shepard.

and how do you even know ME2 shepard is in fact ME1 shepard? the lazerious project is proof enough?

whatever im guessing its not worth explaining.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 26 octobre 2011 - 02:58 .

[spirosz]

Bluko wrote...

Hmm few more things to note about ME1.

ME1 is a much more challenging game then ME2. You can't run into room, take cover, pew pew pew, and expect to win like you often can in ME2. You're going to have to use your noggin a little to devise ways to deal with certain encounters. You must make good use of your abilities and squadmates.

Also enemies are actually dangerous in ME1. Snipers can kill you in one hit, though you'll see their laser sight beforehand, and rockets are equally deadly. Krogan are also serious business in ME1. Still I suggest you play the game on Normal and only go down to Casual if you're really stuck. ME1 requires you be methodical and tactical where as ME2 is more about being quick and efficient. ME1's gameplay therefore can be off-putting at first, but taking the time to understand all the ins-and-outs will greatly pay off.

Frankly I find ME1's Insanity difficultly as much fun as ME2's Insanity. Both are niether really all that fun and simply make battles drag out longer then they need to be and are there mainly for the masochists. In ME1 enemies spam immunity taking forever to kill and in ME2 everything gets additional protection rendering many abilities largely useless.


Also ME1 has a bad habit of slowing down after Eden Prime. I know my first time I gave up playing cause it seemed I was trapped on the Citadel. Once you get out into the Galaxy the game becomes a lot more fun. Again some of the side missions and inventory management can get tedious at times but if can get over those humps ME1 is an experience that can't be beat.

I disagree with the bolded parts, but otherwise spot on. Also, the RED beam of the death is the worst.... I always forgot about how scary it is, lmao. One time I was nowhere near a base and was on top of a hill, so I decided, oh why not just step out of the Mako, nothing will happen, right? Wrong, got one-shoted from across the map, oh how I miss those snipers.  

[Han Shot First]

The gameplay in Mass Effect 2 was a lot better than in Mass Effect 1, but if you like games with a great story you definitely should give Mass Effect 1 another try. I think the story is a little better than in ME2.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

spiros9110 wrote...

Bluko wrote...

Hmm few more things to note about ME1.

ME1 is a much more challenging game then ME2. You can't run into room, take cover, pew pew pew, and expect to win like you often can in ME2. You're going to have to use your noggin a little to devise ways to deal with certain encounters. You must make good use of your abilities and squadmates.

Also enemies are actually dangerous in ME1. Snipers can kill you in one hit, though you'll see their laser sight beforehand, and rockets are equally deadly. Krogan are also serious business in ME1. Still I suggest you play the game on Normal and only go down to Casual if you're really stuck. ME1 requires you be methodical and tactical where as ME2 is more about being quick and efficient. ME1's gameplay therefore can be off-putting at first, but taking the time to understand all the ins-and-outs will greatly pay off.

Frankly I find ME1's Insanity difficultly as much fun as ME2's Insanity. Both are niether really all that fun and simply make battles drag out longer then they need to be and are there mainly for the masochists. In ME1 enemies spam immunity taking forever to kill and in ME2 everything gets additional protection rendering many abilities largely useless.


Also ME1 has a bad habit of slowing down after Eden Prime. I know my first time I gave up playing cause it seemed I was trapped on the Citadel. Once you get out into the Galaxy the game becomes a lot more fun. Again some of the side missions and inventory management can get tedious at times but if can get over those humps ME1 is an experience that can't be beat.

I disagree with the bolded parts, but otherwise spot on. Also, the RED beam of the death is the worst.... I always forgot about how scary it is, lmao. One time I was nowhere near a base and was on top of a hill, so I decided, oh why not just step out of the Mako, nothing will happen, right? Wrong, got one-shoted from across the map, oh how I miss those snipers.  

I would run them over with the Mako....sometimes several times.

Guddam snipers....

[alex90c]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

spiros9110 wrote...

Bluko wrote...

Hmm few more things to note about ME1.

ME1 is a much more challenging game then ME2. You can't run into room, take cover, pew pew pew, and expect to win like you often can in ME2. You're going to have to use your noggin a little to devise ways to deal with certain encounters. You must make good use of your abilities and squadmates.

Also enemies are actually dangerous in ME1. Snipers can kill you in one hit, though you'll see their laser sight beforehand, and rockets are equally deadly. Krogan are also serious business in ME1. Still I suggest you play the game on Normal and only go down to Casual if you're really stuck. ME1 requires you be methodical and tactical where as ME2 is more about being quick and efficient. ME1's gameplay therefore can be off-putting at first, but taking the time to understand all the ins-and-outs will greatly pay off.

Frankly I find ME1's Insanity difficultly as much fun as ME2's Insanity. Both are niether really all that fun and simply make battles drag out longer then they need to be and are there mainly for the masochists. In ME1 enemies spam immunity taking forever to kill and in ME2 everything gets additional protection rendering many abilities largely useless.


Also ME1 has a bad habit of slowing down after Eden Prime. I know my first time I gave up playing cause it seemed I was trapped on the Citadel. Once you get out into the Galaxy the game becomes a lot more fun. Again some of the side missions and inventory management can get tedious at times but if can get over those humps ME1 is an experience that can't be beat.

I disagree with the bolded parts, but otherwise spot on. Also, the RED beam of the death is the worst.... I always forgot about how scary it is, lmao. One time I was nowhere near a base and was on top of a hill, so I decided, oh why not just step out of the Mako, nothing will happen, right? Wrong, got one-shoted from across the map, oh how I miss those snipers.  

I would run them over with the Mako....sometimes several times.

Guddam snipers....

but you get less experience if you kill them with the Mako

[FoxShadowblade]

NoxNoctum wrote...

Fhaileas wrote...

If you disliked ME2 then "yes", if you adored ME2 particularly it's gameplay and narrative, then "no".

? I liked both.

Don't you know that's impossible? To the sycophants of ME1, liking ME2 instantly constitutes that you must hate ME1.

On topic: ME1 gameplay is trash, complete, boring trash.(I've played more than 200 hours of it, so..maybe I'm just biased) BUT the amount of content you gain in ME2 is worth making a new character and running through ME1, just make sure you get every scrap of quest you can.

[mauro2222]

Bluko wrote...

Bcuz wrote...

ME2s insanity was much better than ME1s, in that you could actually make battles go smoothly if you had a clue what you were doing.

I find the whole, wall up in a corner, thing applies better to ME1 than two actually...

I agree with you on snipers. I miss my O S*!T FIND A ROCK moments.

I guess. I dunno I just found myself camping certain cover points in ME2 killing the waves of advancing enemies first and then getting the buggers hiding behind cover. True in ME1 enemies namely bum rush, but honestly this actually forced me to move. I didn't feel 100% safe in cover like I do with ME2. I mean unless you get flanked in ME2 or are out in the open it's pretty hard to get yourself killed. There were certain points (the land bases in ME1) where you'd most likely end up camping the hallway door or something, but that doesn't bother me quite so much as the certain cover pieces

Lol, stupid rockets. No matter where I cover, those ****ing geth rocket troopers and shock troopers, fired their rockets to the ground near me and I died from the blast. That is why I like ME1 cover system, if you lean to close to the border, they shoot to your arm or legs.

[Qilue]

Gameplay debates will rage forever. Buy ME 1 for the storyline and the potential effects of your actions in ME2 and ME3. Not playing the first 2 games is like watching the final part of a series after a ten minute recap of the previous episodes.

If you romanced Liara in ME1 and stayed stayed faithful in ME2, the ending to the Shadow Broker DLC is very poignant. There's also comic relief with the return of Conrad Verner. Particularly if playing a paragon, the various messages gives you the sense that you did make a difference.

Commander Shepard motto - "Saving the galaxy, one person at a time."

[Drone223]

Yes get it, ME1 its story, atmosphere and environments are far superior than ME2, And it can get quite boring with the combat and sidequests but its very rewarding to import it in to ME2 with all the big choices and little ones makes ME2 better in everyway, and it will be the iceing (sp) on the cake to import a ME1/2 game into ME3

[CptBomBom00]

Yeah I look forward to seeing what will happen in ME3 when I import my Shep.

[CptBomBom00]

Also what about my Kestrel armor and my Dlc's weapons will they also import into ME3?