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[billy the squid]

happy_daiz wrote...

Hmm. I'd normally say "Earth", but surely we human idiots have already stripped it of all of its resources by whatever year it is in ME time, and it's just a shell of what it once was...but on the other hand, the keepers could take a piece of wall and some tubing, and make a new wing with it, so the citadel would probably be fine in a firefight.

I don't know. How did I get sucked into this topic? Alex?! 

Apparantly most of the modern areas of Earth are clean and efficient, more akin to tertiary economic service areas rather than heavy industry manufacturing, although there are parts which can technically be termed as slums, where imported raw materials from extraterrestrial colonies are imported for processing, manufacturing and export or, predicated on the standard economic S curve of internal consumption, domestic consumption.

But, considering the Reapers don't seem to destroy what they can use, they can wipe out everyone on the planet, but I don't see how it, Earth, serves any tactical benefit, other than symbolic.

Isn't the Citadel of Reaper origin? I don't see why they would want to destroy it, maybe capture it, I can forsee that, paticularly it is the hub of Mass Relay travel and the Reapers use it to hop around the rest of the galaxy. I don't know.

[atheelogos]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Even if the Earth had a human population of 0 - I would save a garden world over a space station.

Even if the Citadel can magically support some form of ecosystem instead of being an insane drag on resources for all Council races (people think space colonization is just rocket ships - it's a nearly insurmountable task, certainly now, but likely even far far into the future) - it would not even amount to the tiniest fraction that a garden world would be capable of.

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But your question is vague.

The Reapers only harvest space faring species - they don't just blow **** up for kicks.

So - would I allow the Earth or the Citadel to be harvested of all its space faring life forms?

Well - a no consequence mindset (meaning guilt free) says I would have them harvest Earth. I am a greater advocate of the other species on our planet (plant, animal, fungus, bacterial, etc) - than I am the virus that is the human race.

The main reason is that I could perceive the Reapers as galactic maintenance "men" - keeping the sapient species down and allowing life itself to flourish. It's the story I would have actually gone with - making the sapient races the villains.

However - in the end, I suppose I would have the Citadel harvested over the Earth. The cynic in me knows that - unless all sapient life forms are likewise destroyed - someone else will simply colonize Earth again (likely humans) and continue a system of stagnation and parasitic consumption.

At least some humans have a fundamental connection to Earth - and, when the ecosystem finally does collapse - might try to save it and not simply abandon it as a "spent world".

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If the Earth does fall - then the human race become the same as the Drell.

I don't think we'd end up like the Drell. More like the Reapers.

[Last Vizard]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Even if the Earth had a human population of 0 - I would save a garden world over a space station.

Even if the Citadel can magically support some form of ecosystem instead of being an insane drag on resources for all Council races (people think space colonization is just rocket ships - it's a nearly insurmountable task, certainly now, but likely even far far into the future) - it would not even amount to the tiniest fraction that a garden world would be capable of.

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But your question is vague.

The Reapers only harvest space faring species - they don't just blow **** up for kicks.

So - would I allow the Earth or the Citadel to be harvested of all its space faring life forms?

Well - a no consequence mindset (meaning guilt free) says I would have them harvest Earth. I am a greater advocate of the other species on our planet (plant, animal, fungus, bacterial, etc) - than I am the virus that is the human race.

The main reason is that I could perceive the Reapers as galactic maintenance "men" - keeping the sapient species down and allowing life itself to flourish. It's the story I would have actually gone with - making the sapient races the villains.

However - in the end, I suppose I would have the Citadel harvested over the Earth. The cynic in me knows that - unless all sapient life forms are likewise destroyed - someone else will simply colonize Earth again (likely humans) and continue a system of stagnation and parasitic consumption.

At least some humans have a fundamental connection to Earth - and, when the ecosystem finally does collapse - might try to save it and not simply abandon it as a "spent world".

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If the Earth does fall - then the human race become the same as the Drell.

Do you Understand how far our energy production has come? most Coal powered plants are old and will be shut down within decades oh and global warming is bullsh!t ---->  



Fusion and Antimatter will be our next sources of energy so our foot print on Earth's ecosystems will be drastically reduced in the next fifty years... bet your against nuclear power too, its the best and cleanest we have now but you sound like a bleeding heart and that tells its own story.

If the Earth does fall - then the human race become the same as the Drell - Ha we have space travel so even in a worste case scenario we can leave as you already said so i'm not seeing the connection.

Modifié par Last Vizard, 25 octobre 2011 - 01:52 .

[Someone With Mass]

Last Vizard wrote...

I'd destroy the citadel the same way you destroy a relay.

Except that the Citadel is a lot larger than a mass relay and can close its arms to protect itself.

Why one would destroy the hub of the mass relays and potentially sabotage the only way of transportation between systems that doesn't take years is beyond me, though.


The Reapers won't destroy Earth either, since they can use it in future cycles.

Also, Earth relies upon other colonies to keep the economy strong. I'd say that gives the human colonies a higher priority than Earth.

I certainly won't sacrifice other species to save Earth, because Earth has absolutely nothing that puts it above them or their worlds. Even Mars has more useful things, like the Prothean chambers.

[Last Vizard]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Last Vizard wrote...

I'd destroy the citadel the same way you destroy a relay.

Except that the Citadel is a lot larger than a mass relay and can close its arms to protect itself.

Why one would destroy the hub of the mass relays and potentially sabotage the only way of transportation between systems that doesn't take years is beyond me, though.


The Reapers won't destroy Earth either, since they can use it in future cycles.

Also, Earth relies upon other colonies to keep the economy strong. I'd say that gives the human colonies a higher priority than Earth.

I certainly won't sacrifice other species to save Earth, because Earth has absolutely nothing that puts it above them or their worlds. Even Mars has more useful things, like the Prothean chambers.

Would Machines risk their system from breaking down just because the citadel is destroyed?  Humanity is nothing without Earth's population plus without the consumers Earth's colonies fail.... why you would think Humans will survive without Earth is beyond me.

Modifié par Last Vizard, 25 octobre 2011 - 01:56 .

[Welsh Inferno]

I thought this would be a rather obvious choice, but I guess not by all the people picking Earth. You lose the Citadel you lose the entire WAR. Have you all forgotten the entire plot of ME1 and what we know of the Reapers plans? They ALWAYS shut off the relays so all the species are trapped. I could understand lots of people picking Earth over an aliens homeworld but this is a lot different.. Besides humanity are like cockroaches, we always find a way to survive.

[Someone With Mass]

Oh no, the colonies don't have consumers. What ever will they do.

Keep the resources for themselves instead of pouring them into the giant drain that is Earth when the planet has been taken over? Nah, that'd be stupid.

Also, I like to think that they colonized those garden worlds for more than s***s and giggles. That's what most nations would do. Ensure their survival on other planets in case something happens to Earth. Those planets have millions of inhabitants too.

[Welsh Inferno]

Bekenstein would make a great new central hub of Humanity. Being in the same System as the Citadel would be incredibly advantageous.

[Last Vizard]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Oh no, the colonies don't have consumers. What ever will they do.

Keep the resources for themselves instead of pouring them into the giant drain that is Earth when the planet has been taken over? Nah, that'd be stupid.

Also, I like to think that they colonized those garden worlds for more than s***s and giggles. That's what most nations would do. Ensure their survival on other planets in case something happens to Earth. Those planets have millions of inhabitants too.

Millions are not enough to support modern fleets in sufficient numbers after the war with the Reapers to protect humanity from the other species, most nations would build defence platforms from the Relay all the way to Earth the second the first contact war finished...

The Bold sentences, how are those colonies going to support their people without the money from Earth? Earth was not a drain but the main Industrial might of humanity, without Earth we are left with farmers and miners without anyone to sell goods too... aliens have many many world so i doubt they'll need anything at all from a dying species. (Quarian treatment)

Modifié par Last Vizard, 25 octobre 2011 - 02:16 .

[Last Vizard]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Bekenstein would make a great new central hub of Humanity. Being in the same System as the Citadel would be incredibly advantageous.

Not if the Turians like it.

[Robhuzz]

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

Citadel has a population of only 13 million or so. Earth has 11 billion people. All other homeworlds also have many billions of inhabitants. I would save the planet over the Citadel in a heartbeat.

The Reapers won't blow up the Citadel anyway, and they damn well won't allow the organic races enough time to try it so we'd only lose the 13 million people on the station, unfortunate but necessary.

But with the loss of the citadel, the reapers shut down the relay network for all but themselves. They have the stored databases, census data,s chematics, military data on every race in the galaxy.

11 billion people on Earth are saved; temporarily - but with the relay network offline and the reapers armed with tactical data on all the council races, it's only a matter of time before the reapers systematiclly destroy the major races system-by-system, and inevitably, Earth is back on their target list for a second try, this time with the amassed husks and possibly additional reapers built from the asari/turians/salarians/krogans/elcor/hanar/etc etc etc

In arrival you sacrificed a planet to buy a few months to prepare - selling the Earth for the continued survival of the galaxy seems like a small price

Well not really. They could only do that through the keepers. Since the Protheans were destroyed, the surviving scientists changed the keepers so the Reapers could no longer control the Citadel -Remember Vigil? - Even if the citadel is abandoned, the Reapers can't shut down the relay network because the Citadel won't 'listen' to them. They could just hack the extranet to search databases and sensus data so it wouldn't matter if they did or did not control the Citadel.

[Welsh Inferno]

There won't be an 'after the war' for any of us if you lose the Citadel. Eh, these pick this or that threads are redundant anyway. I'd like to think the developers can come up with more intelligent choices to make than simply herp pick planet A or planet B derp.

[RyuujinZERO]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

I thought this would be a rather obvious choice, but I guess not by all the people picking Earth. You lose the Citadel you lose the entire WAR. Have you all forgotten the entire plot of ME1 and what we know of the Reapers plans? They ALWAYS shut off the relays so all the species are trapped. I could understand lots of people picking Earth over an aliens homeworld but this is a lot different..

The strangest part is the number of renegades I see going for the "Losing earth is too high a price" option. I can understand the stupid-good variety of paragons wanting to save earth, but renegades should recognise the tactical importance of the citadel.

For those who havn't played ME1, or has forgotten the jist of the ENTIRE STORYLINE - the Citadel is the command hub for the relay network. Lose the citadel and every world is cut off - no reinforcements, no fleet movements, no sharing of intelligence, no interstellar communication - the reapers can systematiclly take down one system at a time using their entire fleet, with no danger of being flanked by council reinforcements.

Robhuzz wrote...

Well not really. They could only do that through the keepers. Since the Protheans were destroyed, the surviving scientists changed the keepers so the Reapers could no longer control the Citadel -Remember Vigil? - Even if the citadel is abandoned, the Reapers can't shut down the relay network because the Citadel won't 'listen' to them. 

The system can be overidden. Remember - Saren used the manual override in ME1 and took control of the citadel; as did Shepard once she killed Saren. Considering the reapers BUILT the citadel, I highly doubt it'd beyond their abilities to replace the keepers and take back control of it using husks or indoctrinated.

Modifié par RyuujinZERO, 25 octobre 2011 - 02:23 .

[Someone With Mass]

Last Vizard wrote...
Millions are not enough to support modern fleets in sufficient numbers after the war with the Reapers to protect humanity from the other species, most nations would build defence platforms from the Relay all the way to Earth the second the first contact war finished...

The Bold sentences, how are those colonies going to support their people without the money from Earth? Earth was not a drain but the main Industrial might of humanity, without Earth we are left with farmers and miners without anyone to sell goods too... aliens have many many world so i doubt they'll need anything at all from a dying species. (Quarian treatment)

You assume that the Reapers are only targeting the humans and are letting the, oh so vicious aliens run relatively free.

That's cute.

[charredrex]

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

I thought this would be a rather obvious choice, but I guess not by all the people picking Earth. You lose the Citadel you lose the entire WAR. Have you all forgotten the entire plot of ME1 and what we know of the Reapers plans? They ALWAYS shut off the relays so all the species are trapped. I could understand lots of people picking Earth over an aliens homeworld but this is a lot different..

The strangest part is the number of renegades I see going for the "Losing earth is too high a price" option. I can understand the stupid-good variety of paragons wanting to save earth, but renegades should recognise the tactical importance of the citadel.

For those who havn't played ME1, or has forgotten the jist of the ENTIRE STORYLINE - the Citadel is the command hub for the relay network. Lose the citadel and every world is cut off - no reinforcements, no fleet movements, no sharing of intelligence, no interstellar communication - the reapers can systematiclly take down one system at a time using their entire fleet, with no danger of being flanked by council reinforcements.

Robhuzz wrote...

Well not really. They could only do that through the keepers. Since the Protheans were destroyed, the surviving scientists changed the keepers so the Reapers could no longer control the Citadel -Remember Vigil? - Even if the citadel is abandoned, the Reapers can't shut down the relay network because the Citadel won't 'listen' to them. 

The system can be overidden. Remember - Saren used the manual override in ME1 and took control of the citadel; as did Shepard once she killed Saren. Considering the reapers BUILT the citadel, I highly doubt it'd beyond their abilities to replace the keepers and take back control of it using husks or indoctrinated.

Actually I'm a Paragon style player and I'd lose Earth in a heartbeat if it meant keeping the Citadel.  If ti came down to that particuliar choice, you have to go with the Citadel.  In my opinion that would be the only way of having a chance of beating the Reapers.

[Someone With Mass]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

There won't be an 'after the war' for any of us if you lose the Citadel. Eh, these pick this or that threads are redundant anyway. I'd like to think the developers can come up with more intelligent choices to make than simply herp pick planet A or planet B derp.

This.

More Virmire situations? Go away and stop working on any kind of fiction.

[Ravensword]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

There won't be an 'after the war' for any of us if you lose the Citadel. Eh, these pick this or that threads are redundant anyway. I'd like to think the developers can come up with more intelligent choices to make than simply herp pick planet A or planet B derp.

This.

More Virmire situations? Go away and stop working on any kind of fiction.

Yeah. It's kind of a false dichotomy anyway.

Modifié par Ravensword, 25 octobre 2011 - 02:33 .

[billy the squid]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

There won't be an 'after the war' for any of us if you lose the Citadel. Eh, these pick this or that threads are redundant anyway. I'd like to think the developers can come up with more intelligent choices to make than simply herp pick planet A or planet B derp.

This.

More Virmire situations? Go away and stop working on any kind of fiction.

I think Virmire, as a level was good, paticularly the chin wag with Saren, but the implementation of leaving a squad mate to die was about as subtle as a brick to the face. Not, bad, just could have been done better.

Modifié par billy the squid, 25 octobre 2011 - 02:37 .

[Welsh Inferno]

charredrex wrote...

Actually I'm a Paragon style player and I'd lose Earth in a heartbeat if it meant keeping the Citadel.  If ti came down to that particuliar choice, you have to go with the Citadel.  In my opinion that would be the only way of having a chance of beating the Reapers.

You're not the 'stupid good' variety of Paragon then, which is good! Honestly I find playing all out Renegade or an all out Paragon are just as silly as eachother.  Paragade FTW 

[billy the squid]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

charredrex wrote...

Actually I'm a Paragon style player and I'd lose Earth in a heartbeat if it meant keeping the Citadel.  If ti came down to that particuliar choice, you have to go with the Citadel.  In my opinion that would be the only way of having a chance of beating the Reapers.

You're not the 'stupid good' variety of Paragon then, which is good! Honestly I find playing all out Renegade or an all out Paragon are just as silly as eachother.  Paragade FTW 

A pragmatist? I approve.

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[Last Vizard]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Last Vizard wrote...
Millions are not enough to support modern fleets in sufficient numbers after the war with the Reapers to protect humanity from the other species, most nations would build defence platforms from the Relay all the way to Earth the second the first contact war finished...

The Bold sentences, how are those colonies going to support their people without the money from Earth? Earth was not a drain but the main Industrial might of humanity, without Earth we are left with farmers and miners without anyone to sell goods too... aliens have many many world so i doubt they'll need anything at all from a dying species. (Quarian treatment)

You assume that the Reapers are only targeting the humans and are letting the, oh so vicious aliens run relatively free.

That's cute.

lol i never once said "I assume that the Reapers are only targeting Humans while letting the aliens run free", if the Reapers want to make Humans into Reapers then it makes sense they would attack Earth before we get a chance to scatter a little, after Earth Reapers would just hit and run every other spacefaring sentient species.

You wouldn't be avoiding the colony subject are you? they are worthless without the consumers on Earth, if the time line was stretched forward another hundred or so years to allow for solid expansion for humanity then i'd say we can loose Earth and still function as a spacefaring species while protecting ourselves from pirates and alien interests

[Someone With Mass]

Last Vizard wrote...

lol i never once said "I assume that the Reapers are only targeting Humans while letting the aliens run free", if the Reapers want to make Humans into Reapers then it makes sense they would attack Earth before we get a chance to scatter a little, after Earth Reapers would just hit and run every other spacefaring sentient species.

You wouldn't be avoiding the colony subject are you? they are worthless without the consumers on Earth, if the time line was stretched forward another hundred or so years to allow for solid expansion for humanity then i'd say we can loose Earth and still function as a spacefaring species while protecting ourselves from pirates and alien interests

Who says that the colonies are worthless without consumers?

That's like saying that IKEA is useless if the other countries outside Sweden would stop buying from them. Sure, they'd suffer losses, but they'd hardly be useless. By the way, millions of people are more than enough to sustain a viable population. Rehabilitation. I'm pretty sure the humans are capable of it. Those eleven billion people won't disappear the second one prioritizes something ahead of them either.

The Reapers are also attacking the whole galaxy at once. Pavalen, Tuchanka, Earth, Rannoch and many more.

To think that they're only going after the humans just because they're speshul is just preposterous.

[billy the squid]

Last Vizard wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Last Vizard wrote...
Millions are not enough to support modern fleets in sufficient numbers after the war with the Reapers to protect humanity from the other species, most nations would build defence platforms from the Relay all the way to Earth the second the first contact war finished...

The Bold sentences, how are those colonies going to support their people without the money from Earth? Earth was not a drain but the main Industrial might of humanity, without Earth we are left with farmers and miners without anyone to sell goods too... aliens have many many world so i doubt they'll need anything at all from a dying species. (Quarian treatment)

You assume that the Reapers are only targeting the humans and are letting the, oh so vicious aliens run relatively free.

That's cute.

lol i never once said "I assume that the Reapers are only targeting Humans while letting the aliens run free", if the Reapers want to make Humans into Reapers then it makes sense they would attack Earth before we get a chance to scatter a little, after Earth Reapers would just hit and run every other spacefaring sentient species.

You wouldn't be avoiding the colony subject are you? they are worthless without the consumers on Earth, if the time line was stretched forward another hundred or so years to allow for solid expansion for humanity then i'd say we can loose Earth and still function as a spacefaring species while protecting ourselves from pirates and alien interests

Ever thought that our current economic difficulty is due to an over reliance and unbalanced predisposition towards commercial consumption and ease of credit, creating the direct issue of asset inflation and the subsequent financial collapse?

Economic S curves dictate that domestic consumption retains the ability to stimulate internal growth without the need for external economic demand, I don't see how external consumption patterns are an irreplacable requirement to stimulate economic growth within a given economy if internally it is possible to create such conditions.

If anything Earth seems to be the technological and political hub of Alliance space, but considering the colonies seem to fairly autonomous in terms of local governance, and supply I don't see how colonial powers would collapse, paticularly as a degree of transaction would be present between the colonies themselves as much as Earth, in addition to internal economic stimulation.

Modifié par billy the squid, 25 octobre 2011 - 03:01 .

[billy the squid]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Last Vizard wrote...

lol i never once said "I assume that the Reapers are only targeting Humans while letting the aliens run free", if the Reapers want to make Humans into Reapers then it makes sense they would attack Earth before we get a chance to scatter a little, after Earth Reapers would just hit and run every other spacefaring sentient species.

You wouldn't be avoiding the colony subject are you? they are worthless without the consumers on Earth, if the time line was stretched forward another hundred or so years to allow for solid expansion for humanity then i'd say we can loose Earth and still function as a spacefaring species while protecting ourselves from pirates and alien interests

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The Reapers are also attacking the whole galaxy at once. Pavalen, Tuchanka, Earth, Rannoch and many more.

To think that they're only going after the humans just because they're speshul is just preposterous.

I think the human issue is because the genetic material is viable for the creation of more Reapers or something, simply put humans seem to be harvested for a paticular purpose. Everyone else, it's wipe out time.

Either way you're pretty f*cked.

Modifié par billy the squid, 25 octobre 2011 - 03:07 .

[Last Vizard]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Last Vizard wrote...

lol i never once said "I assume that the Reapers are only targeting Humans while letting the aliens run free", if the Reapers want to make Humans into Reapers then it makes sense they would attack Earth before we get a chance to scatter a little, after Earth Reapers would just hit and run every other spacefaring sentient species.

You wouldn't be avoiding the colony subject are you? they are worthless without the consumers on Earth, if the time line was stretched forward another hundred or so years to allow for solid expansion for humanity then i'd say we can loose Earth and still function as a spacefaring species while protecting ourselves from pirates and alien interests

Who says that the colonies are worthless without consumers?

That's like saying that IKEA is useless if the other countries outside Sweden would stop buying from them. Sure, they'd suffer losses, but they'd hardly be useless. By the way, millions of people are more than enough to sustain a viable population. Rehabilitation. I'm pretty sure the humans are capable of it. Those eleven billion people won't disappear the second one prioritizes something ahead of them either.

The Reapers are also attacking the whole galaxy at once. Pavalen, Tuchanka, Earth, Rannoch and many more.

To think that they're only going after the humans just because they're speshul is just preposterous.

A Sweden without other countries and no starships to defend itself with and IKEA will be worthless once the dust settles and alien factions start to struggle for power over citadel space and the colonies become easy targets.  Turians, Asari and Salarians have more worlds and have held them for thousands of years.... they can lose a great deal before they end up in the same boat as Humanity without Earth.

These colonies will be under alien control within a year of the Reapers defeat.