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Depends on what the Alliance says.

They say Earth I'll save Earth, they say Citadel I'll save Citadel, they say save both I'll save both.

If they say pick a choice then I am picking Earth. 11 billion > 13 million. Plus we can always evacuate some people, like the council, from the Citadel.

Modifié par BatmanPWNS, 25 octobre 2011 - 03:25 .


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Adugan wrote...

I have a theory that BW will do something like Virmire, but with planets.  Save Earth or save the Citadel. What do you guys think?


The Citadel is a space station with a population of something like 17 million, right?

Easy choice.  Save Earth.  The Citadel can do like the magistrate, and sod off.

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lol i never once said "I assume that the Reapers are only targeting Humans while letting the aliens run free", if the Reapers want to make Humans into Reapers then it makes sense they would attack Earth before we get a chance to scatter a little, after Earth Reapers would just hit and run every other spacefaring sentient species.

You wouldn't be avoiding the colony subject are you? they are worthless without the consumers on Earth, if the time line was stretched forward another hundred or so years to allow for solid expansion for humanity then i'd say we can loose Earth and still function as a spacefaring species while protecting ourselves from pirates and alien interests


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The Reapers are also attacking the whole galaxy at once. Pavalen, Tuchanka, Earth, Rannoch and many more.

To think that they're only going after the humans just because they're speshul is just preposterous.


I think the human issue is because the genetic material is viable for the creation of more Reapers or something, simply put humans seem to be harvested for a paticular purpose. Everyone else, it's wipe out time.

Either way you're pretty f*cked.


Large one, billy the squid is correct.

Modifié par Last Vizard, 25 octobre 2011 - 03:24 .


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billy the squid wrote...

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Millions are not enough to support modern fleets in sufficient numbers after the war with the Reapers to protect humanity from the other species, most nations would build defence platforms from the Relay all the way to Earth the second the first contact war finished...

The Bold sentences, how are those colonies going to support their people without the money from Earth? Earth was not a drain but the main Industrial might of humanity, without Earth we are left with farmers and miners without anyone to sell goods too... aliens have many many world so i doubt they'll need anything at all from a dying species. (Quarian treatment)


You assume that the Reapers are only targeting the humans and are letting the, oh so vicious aliens run relatively free.

That's cute.


lol i never once said "I assume that the Reapers are only targeting Humans while letting the aliens run free", if the Reapers want to make Humans into Reapers then it makes sense they would attack Earth before we get a chance to scatter a little, after Earth Reapers would just hit and run every other spacefaring sentient species.

You wouldn't be avoiding the colony subject are you? they are worthless without the consumers on Earth, if the time line was stretched forward another hundred or so years to allow for solid expansion for humanity then i'd say we can loose Earth and still function as a spacefaring species while protecting ourselves from pirates and alien interests


Ever thought that our current economic difficulty is due to an over reliance and unbalanced predisposition towards commercial consumption and ease of credit, creating the direct issue of asset inflation and the subsequent financial collapse?

Economic S curves dictate that domestic consumption retains the ability to stimulate internal growth without the need for external economic demand, I don't see how external consumption patterns are an irreplacable requirement to stimulate economic growth within a given economy if internally it is possible to create such conditions.

If anything Earth seems to be the technological and political hub of Alliance space, but considering the colonies seem to fairly autonomous in terms of local governance, and supply I don't see how colonial powers would collapse, paticularly as a degree of transaction would be present between the colonies themselves as much as Earth, in addition to internal economic stimulation.



The colonies wouldn't generate enough money to produce the weapons they need to defend themselves before the alien hordes enslave them.... client species anyone?

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Citadel. It's the largest connection of all relays, losing it would be losing the one key factor that's holding the universe. Use Earth as an icon and move on.


Blow them up and move on.  Probably a good idea anyway, since the Citadel apparently has a master kill switch that turns off the whole relay network.

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Save the earth and rebulid the Citadel

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Save the Citadel,earth is lost and too many humans

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I cant choose D: *kills himself*

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lltoon wrote...

Lose the Earth. We can always go back to repopulate it since we have a pool of billions of humans on other planets and colonies.



No, we don't.

Total population off of Earth is, at best, maybe 50 million.  Earth's three largest colonies have a combined population of 14 million or so.  That means Earth's three largest colonies account for about 0.12% of the human population.

You lose Earth, and humanity is done as a species.  The other races who have been in space over a thousand years can recover from losing their homeworlds.  Humanity cannot.

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jamesp81 wrote...

lltoon wrote...

Lose the Earth. We can always go back to repopulate it since we have a pool of billions of humans on other planets and colonies.



No, we don't.

Total population off of Earth is, at best, maybe 50 million.  Earth's three largest colonies have a combined population of 14 million or so.  That means Earth's three largest colonies account for about 0.12% of the human population.

You lose Earth, and humanity is done as a species.  The other races who have been in space over a thousand years can recover from losing their homeworlds.  Humanity cannot.


The aliens stand with us as long as we are useful, if we lose Earth we'll become slaves.

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Done as a species is an exagerration. Done as a great power for a long time, but we could come back eventually - 50 million means we'd still be in better shape than the Quarians, after all.

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Last Vizard wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

lltoon wrote...

Lose the Earth. We can always go back to repopulate it since we have a pool of billions of humans on other planets and colonies.



No, we don't.

Total population off of Earth is, at best, maybe 50 million.  Earth's three largest colonies have a combined population of 14 million or so.  That means Earth's three largest colonies account for about 0.12% of the human population.

You lose Earth, and humanity is done as a species.  The other races who have been in space over a thousand years can recover from losing their homeworlds.  Humanity cannot.


The aliens stand with us as long as we are useful, if we lose Earth we'll become slaves.


No. We won't. 

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Wulfram wrote...

Done as a species is an exagerration. Done as a great power for a long time, but we could come back eventually - 50 million means we'd still be in better shape than the Quarians, after all.


Quarians aren't threats to Turian power at some point, we'll become a client species.

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Wulfram wrote...

Done as a species is an exagerration. Done as a great power for a long time, but we could come back eventually - 50 million means we'd still be in better shape than the Quarians, after all.


Right, because the various thug regimes of the Terminus systems wouldn't take the opportunity to conquer all the defenseless human colonies that remain.

Slavery is the only reasonable outcome to the loss of Earth.  The Alliance will be removed from the Council, and the aliens will again regret that they can't get involved in a human matter, and do nothing when human colonies are occupied.

Personally, I'm going to ensure that this ineffective supra-national government gets done away with during the war.  They've proved their uselessness enough times to warrant it at this point.

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Last Vizard wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

lltoon wrote...

Lose the Earth. We can always go back to repopulate it since we have a pool of billions of humans on other planets and colonies.



No, we don't.

Total population off of Earth is, at best, maybe 50 million.  Earth's three largest colonies have a combined population of 14 million or so.  That means Earth's three largest colonies account for about 0.12% of the human population.

You lose Earth, and humanity is done as a species.  The other races who have been in space over a thousand years can recover from losing their homeworlds.  Humanity cannot.


The aliens stand with us as long as we are useful, if we lose Earth we'll become slaves.


No sacificing earth and most human lives,will make humans the ulitmate choice to be on the Council,not only that over time humans what are left will be able to repopulate.itll take a very long time but so what.

If the choice is citadeal or Earth,im Saving the Citadel

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The Citadel has some means of controlling/maintaining the mass relay network. We're screwed without it.

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I'm loving the assumption here that all Aliens are vile creatures looking to take advantage of us as soon as they can.

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Tigerblood and MilkShakes wrote...

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lltoon wrote...

Lose the Earth. We can always go back to repopulate it since we have a pool of billions of humans on other planets and colonies.



No, we don't.

Total population off of Earth is, at best, maybe 50 million.  Earth's three largest colonies have a combined population of 14 million or so.  That means Earth's three largest colonies account for about 0.12% of the human population.

You lose Earth, and humanity is done as a species.  The other races who have been in space over a thousand years can recover from losing their homeworlds.  Humanity cannot.


The aliens stand with us as long as we are useful, if we lose Earth we'll become slaves.


No sacificing earth and most human lives,will make humans the ulitmate choice to be on the Council,not only that over time humans what are left will be able to repopulate.itll take a very long time but so what.

If the choice is citadeal or Earth,im Saving the Citadel


"ah yes, your species did well however we would've defeated the Geth anyway although Turians will defend whats left of you monkeys for a price".... pretty much how its going down after war with Reapers.

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Citadel, no question. Earth is a toilet, and humans are no great shakes.

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The citadel is just a trap and only the reapers know how to use it why keep something that's just a liability and that i can't even use when the ones who made it are coming and they now every one of it's secrets and don't go and say that the citadel fleet can stop the reapers cause they couldn't even stop the geth.

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

I'm loving the assumption here that all Aliens are vile creatures looking to take advantage of us as soon as they can.


The aliens are just twisted version of old human cultures... one thing they all had in common was warfare, what happened during first contact with another intelligent species?

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

I'm loving the assumption here that all Aliens are vile creatures looking to take advantage of us as soon as they can.


Didn't you know? All aliens are the same. Never mind that most of them have set their own racial differences aside a long time ago and decided to work together while humanity still thinks it's them against the rest of the galaxy like in some cliche sci-fi flick.

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Citadel, no question. Earth is a toilet, and humans are no great shakes.


Speaking for yourself?

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Right, because the various thug regimes of the Terminus systems wouldn't take the opportunity to conquer all the defenseless human colonies that remain.


The Batarians aren't exactly going to be in a position to be much threat, it seems.

Slavery is the only reasonable outcome to the loss of Earth.  The Alliance will be removed from the Council, and the aliens will again regret that they can't get involved in a human matter, and do nothing when human colonies are occupied.


The Aliens haven't got involved when there was no good reason for them to get involved.  That doesn't mean that the Turians will refuse to protect an associate council member from unprovoked attacks.  The Turians prestige comes from its role as peacekeepers.

Being a second or third rate power sucks, but with competent diplomacy it doesn't spell annihilation.

Personally, I'm going to ensure that this ineffective supra-national government gets done away with during the war.  They've proved their uselessness enough times to warrant it at this point.


1000 years of peace is clearly irrelevant compared to the grave sin of making air quotes at Commander Shepard.

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Last Vizard wrote...

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lltoon wrote...

Lose the Earth. We can always go back to repopulate it since we have a pool of billions of humans on other planets and colonies.



No, we don't.

Total population off of Earth is, at best, maybe 50 million.  Earth's three largest colonies have a combined population of 14 million or so.  That means Earth's three largest colonies account for about 0.12% of the human population.

You lose Earth, and humanity is done as a species.  The other races who have been in space over a thousand years can recover from losing their homeworlds.  Humanity cannot.


The aliens stand with us as long as we are useful, if we lose Earth we'll become slaves.


No sacificing earth and most human lives,will make humans the ulitmate choice to be on the Council,not only that over time humans what are left will be able to repopulate.itll take a very long time but so what.

If the choice is citadeal or Earth,im Saving the Citadel


"ah yes, your species did well however we would've defeated the Geth anyway although Turians will defend whats left of you monkeys for a price".... pretty much how its going down after war with Reapers.



Reguadless of whos helping humans or not.im still ganna blow up earth and kill off the human population,cause i can and life is boring without Choas