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[RyuujinZERO]

Still if nothing else this thread has demonstrated why they're having to dumb-down games and make it "everyone's a winner" ;p

Nobody seems to be able to agree what the "right" decision is. If bioware was to write a story where choice A results in victory, but choice B resulted in a round about defeat due to strategic oversight, half the player base would claim it was a dick move for not supporting their decision.

So it's no suprise we get stuff like the end of ME2 where it's pretty ambigious which was the right choice (Without factoring in meta gaming), but the morality system labels one as "good" and one as "evil"

Modifié par RyuujinZERO, 25 octobre 2011 - 05:59 .

[Cpt-Brit]

Last Vizard wrote...I commented on an early page that we should blow it up, ME 2 changed the rules a little, seems too easy for the Reapers to just fly back in two years... why didn't Nazara just call the fleet in when the Rachni plan failed? i think the relays will still function without the citadel.

Yea that is what I was getting at but I get kinda side tracked I do that when i get going. Its worrying that considering some people take this game really seriously (For a game) that they are already willing completely to sacrifice Earth just because the relays might not work if the Citadel goes boom. Yes I'm all for stopping the Reapers getting hold of the Citadel but defending it at the cost of all else? No way...

I really hope that is one of Shepherds options

Give everyone time to evacuate we'll hold the Reapers off then we blow it. (Paragon)
Ok hold off but we can't wait long! (Neutral)
Do it now! every second we waste thousands more die in this galaxy (Renegade)

and I hope that is just a early to mid game decision not the game ender like Saving the Council etc

[RyuujinZERO]

Last Vizard wrote...

the climate is getting hotter due to increased sun spot activity, not CO2 pollution... didn't you watch the video? lol

Let's keep global warming discourse out of a reaper discussion (If only because I'm gonna have to beat you over the head with th dozens of studies that disagree with your statement)

[jamesp81]

Nyoka wrote...

If organics keep the citadel , the war can be won and we can repopulate the earth afterwards, hopefully in a more responsible way. If the citadel is lost to the reapers, we lose the whole mass relay network, so each system will be isolated and the reapers will take them all one by one.

Reverse engineer the master control in the citadel.  Test it to ensure it works.

Then blow that ****ing station up.  Keeping it around is liability and it ought to be done away with, post-haste.

[Cpt-Brit]

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Still if nothing else this thread has demonstrated why they're having to dumb-down games and make it "everyone's a winner" ;p

Nobody seems to be able to agree what the "right" decision is. If bioware was to write a story where choice A results in victory, but choice B resulted in a round about defeat due to strategic oversight, half the player base would claim it was a dick move for not supporting their decision.

So it's no suprise we get stuff like the end of ME2 where it's pretty ambigious which was the right choice (Without factoring in meta gaming), but the morality system labels one as "good" and one as "evil"

Yea it will be a bit crappy if they make it "Good" "Neutral" "Bad" ending... personally I would like shades of grey as well as the definate "Good" "Neutral" "Bad" endings

[mauro2222]

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Last Vizard wrote...

the climate is getting hotter due to increased sun spot activity, not CO2 pollution... didn't you watch the video? lol

Let's keep global warming discourse out of a reaper discussion (If only because I'm gonna have to beat you over the head with th dozens of studies that disagree with your statement)

Thanks.

[Cheesy Blue]

Earth: Billions of people and where I happen to live.

Citadel: Millions of people and filled with stupid aliens.

Save Earth

[jamesp81]

uzivatel wrote...

Weyrloc Guld wrote...

11 billion of humans vs. some million of aliens. This is a task for Captain Obvious.

overpopulated slum vs. crucial transport system ... decisions.

Incorrect assumption.  Earth is not an overpopulated slum.  Granted, areas of it are, but that's true of most every world too.

[Weyrloc Guld]

Mr.X.Pen wrote...

Weyrloc Guld wrote...

Mr.X.Pen wrote...

Weyrloc Guld wrote...

uzivatel wrote...

Weyrloc Guld wrote...

11 billion of humans vs. some million of aliens. This is a task for Captain Obvious.

overpopulated slum vs. crucial transport system ... decisions.

The homeworld of humans vs. the homeworld of reapers. i said all

They don't live there. It is merely the basis of their plan which they have the keys for. Besides the Reapers homeworld isn't even known yet. Also, station not world:whistle:

Yes, but they come by the Citadel!

Out of Dark Space!

But without the citadel they can't come in our galaxy.

[RyuujinZERO]

jamesp81 wrote...

uzivatel wrote...

Weyrloc Guld wrote...

11 billion of humans vs. some million of aliens. This is a task for Captain Obvious.

overpopulated slum vs. crucial transport system ... decisions.

Incorrect assumption.  Earth is not an overpopulated slum.  Granted, areas of it are, but that's true of most every world too.

According to the codex the developed parts of Earth have been built into self sustaining arcologies, with large expanses of fauna - in otherwords Earth of ME is actually somewhat Eutopian and in better condition than it is today despite the larger population.

Sustaining a population is largely down to efficient use of land and resources; we have a LOT of room for improvement at present. the humans of ME have made steps towards picking up the slack.

Modifié par RyuujinZERO, 25 octobre 2011 - 06:13 .

[jamesp81]

mauro2222 wrote...

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Last Vizard wrote...

the climate is getting hotter due to increased sun spot activity, not CO2 pollution... didn't you watch the video? lol

Let's keep global warming discourse out of a reaper discussion (If only because I'm gonna have to beat you over the head with th dozens of studies that disagree with your statement)

Thanks.

And yet again, I am reminded why BSN needs a free for all forum where any subject matter is allowed.

[Cheesy Blue]

jamesp81 wrote...

uzivatel wrote...

Weyrloc Guld wrote...

11 billion of humans vs. some million of aliens. This is a task for Captain Obvious.

overpopulated slum vs. crucial transport system ... decisions.

Incorrect assumption.  Earth is not an overpopulated slum.  Granted, areas of it are, but that's true of most every world too.

Since when was the Citadel a crucial transport system anyway.... As far as i know it's just some city that's home to some stupid corrupt UN from space.

[Sgt Stryker]

Weyrloc Guld wrote...

Mr.X.Pen wrote...

Weyrloc Guld wrote...

Mr.X.Pen wrote...

Weyrloc Guld wrote...

uzivatel wrote...

Weyrloc Guld wrote...

11 billion of humans vs. some million of aliens. This is a task for Captain Obvious.

overpopulated slum vs. crucial transport system ... decisions.

The homeworld of humans vs. the homeworld of reapers. i said all

They don't live there. It is merely the basis of their plan which they have the keys for. Besides the Reapers homeworld isn't even known yet. Also, station not world:whistle:

Yes, but they come by the Citadel!

Out of Dark Space!

But without the citadel they can't come in our galaxy.

Apparently not, if ME3 is any indication.

[Kentuckan]

Save billions which compromises the majority of the human race and our home planet, or save millions compromised of several different alien species and a place that merely acts as the galactic capital.

The only way they could really make that choice less one sided was if the majority of the galactic army was at the citadel when you need to go save it, or if the citadel is destroyed and for whatever reason all the relays shutdown.

[Weyrloc Guld]

Mr.X.Pen wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Weyrloc Guld wrote...

Mr.X.Pen wrote...

Weyrloc Guld wrote...

Mr.X.Pen wrote...

Weyrloc Guld wrote...

uzivatel wrote...

Weyrloc Guld wrote...

11 billion of humans vs. some million of aliens. This is a task for Captain Obvious.

overpopulated slum vs. crucial transport system ... decisions.

The homeworld of humans vs. the homeworld of reapers. i said all

They don't live there. It is merely the basis of their plan which they have the keys for. Besides the Reapers homeworld isn't even known yet. Also, station not world:whistle:

Yes, but they come by the Citadel!

Out of Dark Space!

But without the citadel they can't come in our galaxy.

Apparently not, if ME3 is any indication.

They were ment to use the Alpha Relay but that got blow to bits (I just know that but I still haven't done Arrival). They must have used another one nearby. But it doesn't link to the Citadel but they'll get there if that vision is partly right.

Can they use another relay? i didn't know it. however, the Citadel has no utility. Why would i save the citadel? For go in the Dark space, but it is useless.

Modifié par Weyrloc Guld, 25 octobre 2011 - 06:35 .

[Arppis]

I don't care as long as I can save myself! ;D

[billy the squid]

Tigerblood and MilkShakes wrote...


....besides being one of the few humans left alive will be Fun

Put yourself on the endangered species list, and then sing "Can't touch this "

Modifié par billy the squid, 25 octobre 2011 - 06:54 .

[Weyrloc Guld]

[quote]Mr.X.Pen wrote...

[quote]Weyrloc Guld wrote...

[quote]Mr.X.Pen wrote...

[quote]Sgt Stryker wrote...

[quote]Weyrloc Guld wrote...

[quote]Mr.X.Pen wrote...

[quote]Weyrloc Guld wrote...

[quote]Mr.X.Pen wrote...

[quote]Weyrloc Guld wrote...

[quote]uzivatel wrote...

[quote]Weyrloc Guld wrote...

11 billion of humans vs. some million of aliens. This is a task for Captain Obvious.[/quote]
overpopulated slum vs. crucial transport system ... decisions.[/quote]


The homeworld of humans vs. the homeworld of reapers. i said all

[/quote]
They don't live there. It is merely the basis of their plan which they have the keys for. Besides the Reapers homeworld isn't even known yet. Also, station not world:whistle:

[/quote]

Yes, but they come by the Citadel!

[/quote]
Out of Dark Space!

[/quote]

But without the citadel they can't come in our galaxy.

[/quote]

Apparently not, if ME3 is any indication.[/quote]
They were ment to use the Alpha Relay but that got blow to bits (I just know that but I still haven't done Arrival). They must have used another one nearby. But it doesn't link to the Citadel but they'll get there if that vision is partly right.

[/quote]

Can hey use another relay? i didn't know it. however, the Citadel has no utility. Why would i save the citadel? For go in the Dark space, but it is useless.

[/quote]
They made the relays so it would be clear they can use them. And they may have some kind of base in dark space - considering a few thousand Reapers would be tough to take down - as some structure could exist to link to the Citadel. Man this has went on a while....

[/quote]

If the reapers can go anywhere in the universe, we can go too, if we the people of ME will destroy the reapers.   

Modifié par Weyrloc Guld, 25 octobre 2011 - 06:54 .

[DarthSliver]

Well simple the Reapers arent going to blow up the station because they need it and the Citadel can close up. So Earth can get the support it needs just fine.

I dont even think the Reapers are the ones who built the Citadel, something the inherited when taking over the Milky Way

[billy the squid]

Tigerblood and MilkShakes wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

Tigerblood and MilkShakes wrote...


....besides being one of the few humans left alive will be Fun

Put yourself on the endangered species list, and then sing "Can't touch this "

You Sir of Madam just got a staute of gold made in your Honor for such greatness

 Thanks, it was too tempting not to.