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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

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My thoughts on this episode:
"Are suggesting I become tal vashoth?" "Eww wtf is that?"
Rock beats Cartwheel lolz.
and "Eeeee, Tallis kill it!"
"The Qunari made me do it." hmm...ok.

I did get kind of tired of the lore inconsistencies like everyone else has been complaining about, closer to the end of the series. But overall I think it was good. The only thing I would have liked to see was Jos setting the mage on fire, I wanted him to just burst into flames SO bad.


What lore inconsistencies? There didn't seem to be very many in the series. The only one I know of is the whole "Templars can't marry" schtick.


Is it true that mages draw their power from the fade?  Like what the text was saying in the beginning, I wasn't sure if that was true.  I know they'e related but whenever I read it I immediately thought of mana=power.  And I think the more people pointed out the flaws, the more they bothered me.  But I do think they did more right than wrong.  

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megski wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

megski wrote...

My thoughts on this episode:
"Are suggesting I become tal vashoth?" "Eww wtf is that?"
Rock beats Cartwheel lolz.
and "Eeeee, Tallis kill it!"
"The Qunari made me do it." hmm...ok.

I did get kind of tired of the lore inconsistencies like everyone else has been complaining about, closer to the end of the series. But overall I think it was good. The only thing I would have liked to see was Jos setting the mage on fire, I wanted him to just burst into flames SO bad.


What lore inconsistencies? There didn't seem to be very many in the series. The only one I know of is the whole "Templars can't marry" schtick.


Is it true that mages draw their power from the fade?  Like what the text was saying in the beginning, I wasn't sure if that was true.  I know they'e related but whenever I read it I immediately thought of mana=power.  And I think the more people pointed out the flaws, the more they bothered me.  But I do think they did more right than wrong.  



It is true. Mages draw their power from the Fade. A few codex entries in the games said so, and Templar abilities are used to disrupt the connection between the Mage and the Fade.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

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A Spirit Healer who can't ressurect is like an meat lover's pizza without meat. It just doesn't make sense.


Considering Spirit healers have never been able to bring a person back from the dead, your pizzalicious post makes no sense.

In addition to that, Josmael isn't a spirit healer. The heal spell isn't restricted to spirit healers, not in DA:O and not in DA2 either.

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I have seen a couple dozen plays in my life and hundreds of tv shows. Felicia is not a convincing actress, that's all. It might be the reason why she's still an amateur. Your choice tho BioWare.

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So now Kirkwall is situated on a river?

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I think that in letting Felicia write this series (and I am a big fan of Ms. Day), they decided to let lore and canon go out the window. I couldn't get much farther than the prologue of ep1, where the Qunari are described as a "race." From then on, I knew that this was being dumbed down to appeal to "a wider audience" (read: the lowest common denominator).

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Is it just me or are her prosethetic ears uneven?

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I'm not sure why Cairn thought leaping in front of Saarebas' magical blast was a better option than attacking Saarebas himself but OK. Tallis' story is a little different looking. This episode implies deep down she knows she can never succeed at being Qunari. When the Qunari invade perhaps that is when Tallis may end up being a Tal'vashoth. Either way, I do find her a little more interesting than before.

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It was said somewhere that Josmael is a spirit healer. Bleh... Don't believe me if you want. *pouts*

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I've missed something of astronomical importance, there is one fault about the Redemption series that stands out to me above all the others: the fact that Tallis is chasing Saarebas and not an Arvaraad. It is the primary function of an Arvaraad to regulate and control the Saarebas in their care, so why is a Qunari of a different role called on to perform this task? Especially considering that Saarebas is off his leash and that, by Qunari logic, both he and everyone he came in contact with must now be killed except for the Arvaraad. It makes no sense to me at all. Not only is Tallis stealing Arvaraad's duty, but must now be killed for coming into contact with the Saarebas.

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@ Ethereal: That makes sense, I'm not sure why I never thought more about mages and the fade before. I did think it was cool when Cairn used some of his templar abilities against the saarabas.

I think the poster that mentioned the Arvaraad had a good point. Wouldn't that make more sense? And also, wouldn't Tallis consider herself Vashoth, I thought there was a difference. I remember reading somewhere that the Vashoth followed the Qun, but weren't Qunari. They were more peaceful or something. Maybe Tallis acting so brash all the time is her way of trying to imitate the Qunari and be 'tough'.

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Josmael seems so inexperienced, he probably doesn't even know what spells he can do. I just imagine him thinking he can heal because an aravel ran over his dog and he healed him once lol, or something else really minor. I don't think he knew what he was getting into when he approached Tallis wanting to tag along.

Speaking of this guy, what about his girlfriend! I know that you got stabbed, beaten up, yelled at, your ass beat by a templar, and then almost mouth raped, lol, but you know, what good are you? ugh. And I wasn't really sure what happened with all of that either.

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Teddie Sage wrote...

It was said somewhere that Josmael is a spirit healer. Bleh... Don't believe me if you want. *pouts*

Awww, I want to believe you, but it just makes no sense to me. Especially because Felicia has specifically stated he's a noob: "Josmael is kind of like a level 1 dude, I actually specifically wrote him as a level 1 dude. Because he's young, and that's actually his character arc." www.youtube.com/watch

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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

I'm not sure why Cairn thought leaping in front of Saarebas' magical blast was a better option than attacking Saarebas himself but OK.


That was painful to watch. I was waiting for it go super slow mo and have him yell out "TALLIS NOOOOOOO!" as he takes the bullet for his new Qunari girlfriend. And of course Tallis avenges her dead lover by going against her Qunari beliefs and killing the Saarebas. *yawn*

Meh, overall it was an interesting project but pretty forgettable. The last couple episodes were pretty groan worthy, what with the Templar being a renegade just like Tallis and the sappy romance. Cliched stuff like that is not inherently bad, but when its done with mediocre acting and writing, it looks pretty bad.

I just don't quite get why when you know its a low budget affair, you try to show stuff like tons of magic and stuff that requires that sort of special effects. Especially when I'm sure you could do other DA stories that wouldn't necessarily require that. Just put more of that into making better armor/makeup. I just couldn't get over the ending there with Saarebas being like a bad episode of Power Rangers.

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It was entertaining.

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Brockololly wrote...

being like a bad episode of Power Rangers.


There are good episodes of Power Rangers?

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Nemotenetur wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

It was said somewhere that Josmael is a spirit healer. Bleh... Don't believe me if you want. *pouts*

Awww, I want to believe you, but it just makes no sense to me. Especially because Felicia has specifically stated he's a noob: "Josmael is kind of like a level 1 dude, I actually specifically wrote him as a level 1 dude. Because he's young, and that's actually his character arc." www.youtube.com/watch




Ah, I see. Haven't watched that video yet. Oh well.

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I thought it was well acted out. I watched the first ones earlier and just now watched the last 2, starting from the beginning one. I like the costumes and weapons used. Probably the closest thing we will get to a real movie, it was exciting for me. Without posting spoliers and such I can say I didn't like the ending, it wasn't a bad ending! It was just sort of mind boggling in true BioWare spirit and profound at the same time.

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shadowhawk233 wrote...

It is the primary function of an Arvaraad to regulate and control the Saarebas in their care, so why is a Qunari of a different role called on to perform this task?


These were special circumstances. This task was set specifically as Tallis' chance for redemption.

megski wrote...

I remember reading somewhere that the Vashoth followed the Qun, but weren't Qunari. They were more peaceful or something. Maybe Tallis acting so brash all the time is her way of trying to imitate the Qunari and be 'tough'.


No, the Tal'Vashoth have left the Qun entirely. They can be peaceful, but more often than not they're bloodthirsty killers.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 16 novembre 2011 - 12:27 .


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Merilsell wrote...

Character AND actress, actually. She had done _both_, after all. Written Tallis and acted by herself. Which you can easily notice due to the fact of how much more awesomez and speshul Tallis is coming off than her side-kicks. And the other characters are really not more than that, which is a shame.

What he meant is that Tallis is Day's character, not the other way round.

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@ Ethereal: That makes sense, I'm not sure why I never thought more about mages and the fade before. I did think it was cool when Cairn used some of his templar abilities against the saarabas.


Eh all that really happened with his Templar ability was that the point of his sword glowed when he did a little magic disruption.

Other than that there weren't any Templar abilities.

I think the poster that mentioned the Arvaraad had a good point. Wouldn't that make more sense?


Arvaarads are the Templar equivalents yes and it might make more sense in normal circumstances, but this was a special assignment for a Qunari that needed redemption -- hence the name of the series, though it also applies to Cairn and maybe even Josmael I guess -- and not a normal scenario.

And also, wouldn't Tallis consider herself Vashoth, I thought there was a difference. I remember reading somewhere that the Vashoth followed the Qun, but weren't Qunari. They were more peaceful or something. Maybe Tallis acting so brash all the time is her way of trying to imitate the Qunari and be 'tough'.


Tal-Vashoth abandon the Qun. Some may still cling to the honor they held under the Qun since that's all they know, but generally they are not Qunari and abandon the Qun entirely.


Josmael seems so inexperienced, he probably doesn't even know what spells he can do. I just imagine him thinking he can heal because an aravel ran over his dog and he healed him once lol, or something else really minor. I don't think he knew what he was getting into when he approached Tallis wanting to tag along.


He was able to heal himself after taking a knife to the chest. Seems like he's fairly experienced as a healer, especially since the Keepers teach the mages -- though his Keeper was captured and killed, but he still would've learned the Keeper's magic prior to that.

I predict we'll be seeing Josmael as the Keeper of whatever clan we see in DAIII and we might see Nyree too.

Question: Was the Keeper of Josmael's clan named Solan? If not, what was his name?


Speaking of this guy, what about his girlfriend! I know that you got stabbed, beaten up, yelled at, your ass beat by a templar, and then almost mouth raped, lol, but you know, what good are you? ugh. And I wasn't really sure what happened with all of that either.


Not sure I understand what you're saying.



Brockololly wrote...

That was painful to watch. I was waiting for it go super slow mo and have him yell out "TALLIS NOOOOOOO!" as he takes the bullet for his new Qunari girlfriend. And of course Tallis avenges her dead lover by going against her Qunari beliefs and killing the Saarebas. *yawn*


It was pretty predictable. I think everyone knew that Tallis and Cairn would become close like that. I don't think 6 episodes though really gave enough development for it to feel natural, though maybe if I watch all 6 at once it might.

Watching one every week may be what the problem was. For me anyway.

But that said it doesn't make it bad for me. Predictable, but not bad. Not sure how others may see it.

Meh, overall it was an interesting project but pretty forgettable. The last couple episodes were pretty groan worthy, what with the Templar being a renegade just like Tallis and the sappy romance. Cliched stuff like that is not inherently bad, but when its done with mediocre acting and writing, it looks pretty bad.


I thought Nyree was a well-acted character. But some of the fight scenes were too brief. Lighting was also an issue along with camera movement and I could barely keep track of what was happening sometimes.



I just don't quite get why when you know its a low budget affair, you try to show stuff like tons of magic and stuff that requires that sort of special effects. Especially when I'm sure you could do other DA stories that wouldn't necessarily require that. Just put more of that into making better armor/makeup. I just couldn't get over the ending there with Saarebas being like a bad episode of Power Rangers.



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I could have sworn I heard somewhere that there was a 'vashoth' type of kossith that were different from the tal'vashoth. That memory is very vague though. I think we'll be seeing more of these characters too, I think out of everyone Josmael is my favorite. And I'm not sure what happened with his girlfriend, did she stab herself, did she fall, did Josmael stab her (I don't think he did), I just wasn't sure what happened there.

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megski wrote...

I could have sworn I heard somewhere that there was a 'vashoth' type of kossith that were different from the tal'vashoth. That memory is very vague though. I think we'll be seeing more of these characters too, I think out of everyone Josmael is my favorite. And I'm not sure what happened with his girlfriend, did she stab herself, did she fall, did Josmael stab her (I don't think he did), I just wasn't sure what happened there.



There are a few Tal-Vashoth that we know of. There's Maraas, who is an honorable Tal-Vashoth. Not the honor that the Qunari think of, but the honor that the societies outside of Qunari culture think of. There's Armaas, who's a self-serving -- albeit not heartless -- merchant.

The rest I think are dead.

Frankly, I believe Maraas will be a companion in DAIII or DAII's expansion, if Bioware decides to make one.

And yes, Josmael stabbed her. He fought her for the blade as she was about to cut him and stabbed her. Might've been accidentally, but I'm not sure.

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I think of it as a fun project that occupied my time with the lack of offical Dragon Age Content with a nice story. And I don't think of any of them as bad actors persay. I enjoyed all of it to be honest.

Even the cliches.

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megski wrote...

I could have sworn I heard somewhere that there was a 'vashoth' type of kossith that were different from the tal'vashoth. That memory is very vague though. I think we'll be seeing more of these characters too, I think out of everyone Josmael is my favorite. And I'm not sure what happened with his girlfriend, did she stab herself, did she fall, did Josmael stab her (I don't think he did), I just wasn't sure what happened there.


According to what the devs or possibly one of the Codexes have told us I think "Vashoth" are Qunari who has left the Qun. A Tal'Vashoth is one that has become violent.