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[SandTrout]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

I would save the Collectors over the Quarians.

That's rather self-destructive.

[Gaidax]

If by "sacrifice" you mean wipe out every last member of a specie, then Geth would be an obvious choice, since they are a potential ticking bomb that can explode in our collective faces at any time.

Sure Legion and Geth sound like a decent bunch after all, but the fact that they can be reprogrammed en-masse by as simple as one sneaky virus and on top of that their absurd reproduction capabilities is a potential threat, which is impossible to contain in case things go wrong. Heck, their whole concensus thing is just as bad, one day they may come to conclusion that non-Geth races are redundant/harmful/destructive and go on to fix this their way.

Quarians, on the other hand, both are a relatively insignificant faction (despite their huge fleet) and are rather friendly as well as a whole, despite some of their big wigs having extremist views on how to use Geth to dominate stuff.

[IanPolaris]

Based on the leaked information, I would have to say, sacrifice the Geth. I usually chose "rewrite" in ME2 if playing paragon (which I tend to prefer), but I will quote Garrus when it comes to Rana (the aasari scientest in Grunt's recuitment mission): "I believe in second chances. Not so sure about third chances....."

In short, the Geth are extremely powerful and can be reprogrammed by the Reapers almost instantly with no apparent way to defend themselves thus threatening the rest of the galaxy. This has happened not once but twice (in ME3). That's one more than I am willing to tolerate. In ME2 I was willing to give the Geth the benefit of the doubt esp since the Quarians were basically at fault in the Morning War. Not any more. The Geth are too dangerous and can be manipulated too easily and thus are too great a threat to be permitted to exist.

Unfortunately the same applies to the Rachni for almost the same reasons.

-Polaris

Edit PS:  Yes Organics can be reprogrammed (indoctrinated) as well, but that takes time and that gives other organics a chance to do something about it once indoctrination is known about (or suspected).

Modifié par IanPolaris, 08 novembre 2011 - 01:26 .

[Schneidend]

SandTrout wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

I would save the Collectors over the Quarians.

That's rather self-destructive.

Highly social tech experts with delightfully wide hips...or soulless bug robots? Hmmm...Tough call.

In the end, though, I'd sacrifice both the quarians and the geth if it meant galactic civilization could be salvaged. I'd sacrifice anything as long as it saves galactic infrastructure and safeguards a sustainable population.

[Sebbe1337o]

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

Seriously I'd sacrifice both species during final battle. Geth because there is a risk of them becoming the same vermin as the reapers. Quarians would be sacrificed for creating the geth.

This, so ****ing much!^

[Night Wraith]

Arcian wrote...

You people are way too eager to sacrifice things. A real man doesn't need to make sacrifices to win. He just wins.

Agreed.

The Geth seem more useful and aren't trying to start wars with anyone.  Those Quarians on the other hand seem dead set on being a problem so they would go if I had to make that choice.

[Night Wraith]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Night Wraith wrote...

Arcian wrote...

You people are way too eager to sacrifice things. A real man doesn't need to make sacrifices to win. He just wins.

Agreed.

The Geth seem more useful and aren't trying to start wars with anyone.  Those Quarians on the other hand seem dead set on being a problem so they would go if I had to make that choice.

I love the silly responses from people who haven't read the spoilers.

Well just going off my reactions to them in ME2.  I don't want to sacrifice any group needlessly.

[IanPolaris]

TheDaniellasaur wrote...

ArMedSuRViVoR wrote...

To be honest, I would actually sacrifice the Quarian and let the Geth live. The Quarians as a race never really appealed to me... nor did Tali.

EDIT: On the other hand, the Geth DID work with Saren to destroy the Citadel...
I don't know. I would probably try to save up Paragon to save both

The geth didnt work with saren on purpose. The reapers put a virus in them so they werent themselves. Legion tells you that in ME2

Actually he doesn't.  He confirms that the Heretics work with "The Old Machines" out of choice.  They accepted the Old Machine's technology and thus were changed...but they made the choice first.

The reason I'd sacc all the Geth in ME3 is because apparently *spoilers* it doesn't matter what you do with the Geth, the Reapers automatically and seemlessly and isntantaneously rewrite all Geth to be heretics except Legion no matter what you do.  That means the Geth are too dangerous to let live.  Fool me once shame on you.  Fool me twice shame on me. *end spoiler*

-Polaris

[hellcat420]

sacrifice the quarians in a heartbeat!!!

[Ohei]

Why must we sacrifice? Why can't WE ALLL GET ALOOOONG?

WHYYYYY can't we be FRIEEEEENDS!?

[IanPolaris]

Ohei wrote...

Why must we sacrifice? Why can't WE ALLL GET ALOOOONG?

WHYYYYY can't we be FRIEEEEENDS!?

Good question.  It's why (if going paragon) I almost always rewrite the Heretics.  There is nothing that a priori prevents the Geth and Quarians from coexisting peacefully as both are presented in ME2.  Given what we apparently learn in ME3, that's no longer the case.  The Geth (and Rachni) are too dangerous to all life in the galaxy (for spoilerific reasons) to permit to exist.

-Polaris

[DragonTIM]

It will be something like suicide-mission in ME2 do some extra work and have the True geths and Quarians join forces against Reapers, Cerberus and the Heretic geths.

[IanPolaris]

DragonTIM wrote...

It will be something like suicide-mission in ME2 do some extra work and have the True geths and Quarians join forces against Reapers, Cerberus and the Heretic geths.

Perhaps, but I think the option would be well worth having (and should be very difficult given the understandable mistrust on both sides).

-Polaris

[RamirezWolfen]

It depends. If it's to fight against the Reapers, honestly I'm going to have to go with sacrificing the quarians.

Modifié par RamirezWolfen, 08 novembre 2011 - 05:55 .

[DragonTIM]

IanPolaris wrote...

DragonTIM wrote...

It will be something like suicide-mission in ME2 do some extra work and have the True geths and Quarians join forces against Reapers, Cerberus and the Heretic geths.

Perhaps, but I think the option would be well worth having (and should be very difficult given the understandable mistrust on both sides).

-Polaris

Agree by 100% because Quarians and Geth have combined such a huge fleet also Legion and Tali are my favorite characters and I cant imagine a choice between them.

[IanPolaris]

RamirezWolfen wrote...

It depends. If it's to fight against the Reapers, honestly I'm going to have to go with sacrificing the quarians.

That's nice except:

*spoiler*

Apparently the Reapers can rewrite and indoctrinate all the Geth virtually instanteously (within a couple of days).  That makes the Geth too dangerous to trust as allies against the Reapers.


*end spoiler*

-Polaris

[RamirezWolfen]

IanPolaris wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

It depends. If it's to fight against the Reapers, honestly I'm going to have to go with sacrificing the quarians.

That's nice except:

*spoiler*

Apparently the Reapers can rewrite and indoctrinate all the Geth virtually instanteously (within a couple of days).  That makes the Geth too dangerous to trust as allies against the Reapers.


*end spoiler*

-Polaris

**** seriously? I guess I'm going opposite, then.

[IanPolaris]

RamirezWolfen wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

It depends. If it's to fight against the Reapers, honestly I'm going to have to go with sacrificing the quarians.

That's nice except:

*spoiler*

Apparently the Reapers can rewrite and indoctrinate all the Geth virtually instanteously (within a couple of days).  That makes the Geth too dangerous to trust as allies against the Reapers.


*end spoiler*

-Polaris

**** seriously? I guess I'm going opposite, then.

Assuming the leaked main story arcs are at all accurate (and I think they are), then yes.  Seriously.

-Polaris

[Kekkis]

IanPolaris wrote...

DragonTIM wrote...

It will be something like suicide-mission in ME2 do some extra work and have the True geths and Quarians join forces against Reapers, Cerberus and the Heretic geths.

Perhaps, but I think the option would be well worth having (and should be very difficult given the understandable mistrust on both sides).

-Polaris

They don´t have to like eachother. But they should have at least small bits of common sense and figure out, that Reapers must be defeated or they are doomed. After that they can resume doing whatever they like.

[IanPolaris]

Kekkis wrote...

They don´t have to like eachother. But they should have at least small bits of common sense and figure out, that Reapers must be defeated or they are doomed. After that they can resume doing whatever they like.

If Tali's Loyalty mission in ME2 is any indication, then Tali has more common sense than all the other Quarians in the Flotilla put together.

As for the Geth, they either can not or will not understand emotional attachments to objects and the idea of "home".  Until they do, they will not be able to 'model' Creator behavior and will not be able to make peace with the Creators.

In short, common sense isn't very common with either group.

-Polaris