Volus Warlord wrote...
Eh, Bioware should have at least a few more good games in 'em. But nothing lasts forever.
Modifié par addiction21, 27 octobre 2011 - 01:23 .
addiction21 wrote...
Simple note I hate most beta testers. They think its a free preview and damned they should get the game for free. It is not for you to play for 10 hours and then say you dont like it. It is for you to TEST IT!! Give feed back.
jreezy wrote...
It's actually possible finishing ME1 in 9 hours. I know, I've done it.AtreiyaN7 wrote...
Six to nine hours, eh? Do tell - which recent BioWare RPG was six to nine hours in length? Because I haven't finished any game from ME1 until now that quickly. Also, like Morroian, I've heard from people in the TOR beta who have been enjoying the game. *shrug*
Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 27 octobre 2011 - 02:00 .
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In my opinion? Most of the enjoyment of a game like Mass Effect is removed when rushing through it. No matter how many times I've played it I prefer taking my time with it.addiction21 wrote...
jreezy wrote...
I'd lean more towards "rushing through". It was probably my 7th playthrough of the game. I may be off since I've lost track of how many times I've played it. For that particular playthrough it was my goal to finish ASAP. No guides and it was on Casual.
ANd thats sort of my point. You were getting thru it not playing it. I dont have a problem with someone saying "I got thru it this fast"
Its when they make that statement and connect it to how poor a game is. What do you sacrifice to be able to do that? Not saying thats what you were doing but we see that a lot around here.
Modifié par jreezy, 27 octobre 2011 - 02:26 .
AtreiyaN7 wrote...
jreezy wrote...
It's actually possible finishing ME1 in 9 hours. I know, I've done it.AtreiyaN7 wrote...
Six to nine hours, eh? Do tell - which recent BioWare RPG was six to nine hours in length? Because I haven't finished any game from ME1 until now that quickly. Also, like Morroian, I've heard from people in the TOR beta who have been enjoying the game. *shrug*
Sure, I would assume that's possible in a speed run, but I think the guy is implying that a "standard" run is somehow super-duper short.
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Yeah there's no way you should be getting less than 15 hours out of Mass Effect when you play it at a normal pace.AtreiyaN7 wrote...
jreezy wrote...
It's actually possible finishing ME1 in 9 hours. I know, I've done it.AtreiyaN7 wrote...
Six to nine hours, eh? Do tell - which recent BioWare RPG was six to nine hours in length? Because I haven't finished any game from ME1 until now that quickly. Also, like Morroian, I've heard from people in the TOR beta who have been enjoying the game. *shrug*
Sure, I would assume that's possible in a speed run, but I think the guy is implying that a "standard" run is somehow super-duper short.
hoorayforicecream wrote...
AtreiyaN7 wrote...
jreezy wrote...
It's actually possible finishing ME1 in 9 hours. I know, I've done it.AtreiyaN7 wrote...
Six to nine hours, eh? Do tell - which recent BioWare RPG was six to nine hours in length? Because I haven't finished any game from ME1 until now that quickly. Also, like Morroian, I've heard from people in the TOR beta who have been enjoying the game. *shrug*
Sure, I would assume that's possible in a speed run, but I think the guy is implying that a "standard" run is somehow super-duper short.
Skyrim can be beaten in 2 hours and 16 minutes.
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Haha, incredible. 300 hrs worth of content? Not to that guy.hoorayforicecream wrote...
AtreiyaN7 wrote...
jreezy wrote...
It's actually possible finishing ME1 in 9 hours. I know, I've done it.AtreiyaN7 wrote...
Six to nine hours, eh? Do tell - which recent BioWare RPG was six to nine hours in length? Because I haven't finished any game from ME1 until now that quickly. Also, like Morroian, I've heard from people in the TOR beta who have been enjoying the game. *shrug*
Sure, I would assume that's possible in a speed run, but I think the guy is implying that a "standard" run is somehow super-duper short.
Skyrim can be beaten in 2 hours and 16 minutes.
jreezy wrote...
Haha, incredible. 300 hrs worth of content? Not to that guy.
hoorayforicecream wrote...
AtreiyaN7 wrote...
jreezy wrote...
It's actually possible finishing ME1 in 9 hours. I know, I've done it.AtreiyaN7 wrote...
Six to nine hours, eh? Do tell - which recent BioWare RPG was six to nine hours in length? Because I haven't finished any game from ME1 until now that quickly. Also, like Morroian, I've heard from people in the TOR beta who have been enjoying the game. *shrug*
Sure, I would assume that's possible in a speed run, but I think the guy is implying that a "standard" run is somehow super-duper short.
Skyrim can be beaten in 2 hours and 16 minutes.
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Mmmmmm...Pie. I could go for some apple pie right now. Too bad I don't live within walking distance of a McDonald's.hoorayforicecream wrote...
jreezy wrote...
Haha, incredible. 300 hrs worth of content? Not to that guy.
He got a pie out of it! That's gotta be worth 297 hours of content.
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addiction21 wrote...
Simple note I hate most beta testers. They think its a free preview and damned they should get the game for free. It is not for you to play for 10 hours and then say you dont like it. It is for you to TEST IT!! Give feed back.
True enough. However, many companies do pass out a final mass wave of 'beta invites' that really are intended just to be a free preview. Since its usually just before launch. The only function that wave really serves apart from getting a preview is testing server loads.
If I get a last minute Beta invite, I don't bother with feedback. I just treat it as a preview. If I get a real beta invite (at the actual start of beta) then I do it seriously.
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Hey now, I sent in my fair share of feedback and bug reports.
addiction21 wrote...
Cutlass Jack wrote...
addiction21 wrote...
Simple note I hate most beta testers. They think its a free preview and damned they should get the game for free. It is not for you to play for 10 hours and then say you dont like it. It is for you to TEST IT!! Give feed back.
True enough. However, many companies do pass out a final mass wave of 'beta invites' that really are intended just to be a free preview. Since its usually just before launch. The only function that wave really serves apart from getting a preview is testing server loads.
If I get a last minute Beta invite, I don't bother with feedback. I just treat it as a preview. If I get a real beta invite (at the actual start of beta) then I do it seriously.
We are on the same page. With new mmo's that final load test has turned into the "head start for preordering" for the most part.Upsettingshorts wrote...
Hey now, I sent in my fair share of feedback and bug reports.
And thats what I would expect from you.
My rant was more for that segment that act like they are special because they got to test a big upcoming game and then never actually tested it. They played it then moaned about the bugs like it was the actual release.
I'd require cheesecake. And some actual skill...hoorayforicecream wrote...
jreezy wrote...
Haha, incredible. 300 hrs worth of content? Not to that guy.
He got a pie out of it! That's gotta be worth 297 hours of content.
My favourite is when they complain that they can't play due to lag during a stress testaddiction21 wrote...
My rant was more for that segment that act like they are special because they got to test a big upcoming game and then never actually tested it. They played it then moaned about the bugs like it was the actual release.
Modifié par FrozenFire42, 27 octobre 2011 - 04:27 .
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All "RPG" games are story driven, whether open world or not. I'm not sure if you realized that so I'm just letting you know. Elder Scrolls is a story driven game.Heather Cline wrote...
I like most of bioware's games. I don't like the Elder Scroll series. Not a fan of open world rpg's or mmo/multiplayer games. I like story driven games.
I'm going to try and say this in the absolute nicest way possible.Stanley Woo wrote...
Many BioWarians around here are eagerly awaiting Skyrim as well, partly because the Elder Scrolls are so different from the games we make here. Seeing how other developers do things helps us to make games better, gives us new ideas on what may or may not work within the context of a BioWare game, and allows us to stay abreast of new technologies and development philosophies.
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I've heard many people find Oblivion frustrating. My brother thought I wouldn't like it when he told me about it but I gave it a chance and have thoroughly enjoyed it. I didn't think it would be too hard to get into at the beginning for people though. The best thing about the Elder Scrolls to me is that it just drops you into a world and just lets you go nuts pretty much. It lets you decide what you want to get involved in.Heather Cline wrote...
i tried to play oblivion but i couldn't get past the first part of the game after the opening part. i didn't even know where to go in the game. in Dragon Age, in Mass Effect, in Jade Empire, in KoTOR you have some idea of where to go, what to do, the story helps you. In Oblivion the first Elder Scrolls game I played I never could figure it out. Thus I've written off the game series itself because if I can't figure out where to go and what to do, I can't beat the game.
Modifié par jreezy, 27 octobre 2011 - 04:44 .
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When you go into your Journal in Oblivion you can select a mission and it puts a marker on the map so you know where to go. I agree that no game should ever make the player purposely feel lost but luckily Oblivion doesn't do that. Come to think of it, there should always be some kind of marker on the map because there's always one quest set as the active quest.Heather Cline wrote...
Well you see for me take Mass Effect 1. A pretty open world rpg with third person shooter elements. After the prologue on Eden Prime and proving Saren was a traitor you are given some direction on where to go. However you are free to explore the entire galaxy via the galaxy map. In Oblivion I didn't even have that going for me. So I couldn't get into it. I like that rpg's can throw you into a world but unless there is like a marker in the game saying "this is your next target" I can't figure out how to play or beat it. So to me the Elder Scrolls series is not for me.
Modifié par jreezy, 27 octobre 2011 - 05:12 .
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