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#226
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Fixers0 wrote...

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Claim to know? It obvious by the way they are handling it. They make it optional, make it a horde mode, and made sure you don't have to play it. Also, Bioware would have to be blind, deaf and dumb not to be able to see the split in the feelings of mp in the fan base. The fact that they made it pve mp is clear what their intentions are.


Oh sure you know, you still haven't give any concrete proof about what bioware's intention is nor did you ever attempted to refute my critism that posted in the first place and was my main point,

I strongly suggest that you read my initial post again and the post why you wanted to react to it and what your actual point is.


The comcrete proof is how they are handling the mp. That is very clear. The fact that: the mp is optional, the mp doen't add anything extra to the sp in terms of story, and the mp has no inturnal story so people not play the mp won't miss anything makes that fact unquetionalble.
Just look at the fan base, do you think that making the mp manditory or even and aseperate story for it won't make this forum go to hell in back? If they did that, this forum would be a war zone. They know their fan base and they clearly listen.....This is the bast way to add mp for a fan base as split on the issue as this.

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jreezy wrote...

I hope that capping off at a level cap of 20 line on the playstation blog article was wrong. I was under the impression that single player had a level cap of 60.


It does.  The Lead Designer, Preston Watamaniuk, confirmed it.  MP however does cap at 20.

Modifié par didymos1120, 28 octobre 2011 - 07:19 .


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The real question I have is this: being a 360 owner, can I play with my friends on PC? Or are we SOL?

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Cooee89 wrote...

The real question I have is this: being a 360 owner, can I play with my friends on PC? Or are we SOL?

Unfortunately not. It's not cross-platform.

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Cooee89 wrote...

The real question I have is this: being a 360 owner, can I play with my friends on PC? Or are we SOL?

Unfortunately not. It's not cross-platform.


That's a real shame, but thank you. I appreciate the clarification. 

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No problem. And it shouldn't be a surprise, really. Very few games nowadays go cross-platform with multiplayer.

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

No problem. And it shouldn't be a surprise, really. Very few games nowadays go cross-platform with multiplayer.

I blame  canada for that....

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didymos1120 wrote...

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My favorite part was when Destructoid said the vocal dissenters may be on to something.

Rpg fans 1, BioWare Defense Force 0


Please define "RPG fans" and "Bioware Defense Force" and explain why they are mutually exclusive categories. 

I'll take a hint off his username and assume that he is referring to the anger-fueled posters who make a new thread each month on a similar topic with the title being something akin to "HNNNGGHHH Whaaaat is the poooint of this, ME3 is NOOOOT an Arr Pee Gee, SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING!".

Tears too salty. Would not consume.

Modifié par Phaedon, 28 octobre 2011 - 07:16 .


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Phaedon wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

sympathyforsaren wrote...

My favorite part was when Destructoid said the vocal dissenters may be on to something.

Rpg fans 1, BioWare Defense Force 0


Please define "RPG fans" and "Bioware Defense Force" and explain why they are mutually exclusive categories. 

I'll take a hint off his username and assume that he is referring to the anger-fueled posters who make a new thread each month on a similar topic with the title being something akin to "HNNNGGHHH Whaaaat is the poooint of this, ME3 is NOOOOT an Arr Pee Gee, SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING!".

Tears too salty. Would not consume.


Ah yes....and this is the other phenomenon I pointed out earlier....the same people who worship BioWare and always post on BSN high-fiving each other and resorting to immature insults that is actually trolling but mods would never get the likes of Phaedon in trouble (or simply held accountable at a fair and equitable standard compared to others) thinking that because they post in here all of the time they are the majority and speak consensus for everybody in existence.

Multiplayer looking mighty tacky there, Phaedon, unless these sources you deem as viable for other confirmed content is all of a sudden moot.

Some of these sources, including IGN, share our direct opinion, with an attempt to be unbiased for journalistic reasons. But I'm not crying....I'm giving a wait and see approach and have ME3's best interests in mind. I also 'uninvested' money in the game and am waiting.

It's obvious more than ever that multiplayer, of course, doesn't belong in ME3. Unless you want to complain to every source that belittled it and basically said folks like myself have a legitimate gripe.

Modifié par sympathyforsaren, 28 octobre 2011 - 10:32 .


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@sympathyforsaren Even if the multiplayer sucks, at the end of the day it's still optional. And when did Phaedon speak for the whole of BSN?

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All of this said, I hope the MP improves because I intend to play it. A bit of fun that can also help you in the singleplayer game is exactly what I wanted from it, but is it actually fun? Despite it being there as a small arcadey experience, I would appreciate it having more substance. Otherwise, it's dead in a few months.

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 I'm gonna give this a shot...even if im one of those ppl who HATE this add.....
They could use all that space to make the SP maybe bigger? add stuf on it ?
The only reason i wanna try the MP is because i always wanted to play a diff race

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@albafica Creation of the MP element didn't take anything away from the singleplayer, don't worry. ;)

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@SpelMalmer thank you for the answer... I have a similar idea about how Mass Effect's combat has more to it than Gears'. However, Gears 3 is amazing and it's gameplay mechanics are brilliant, a great improvement over Gears 2.

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SNascimento wrote...

@SpelMalmer thank you for the answer... I have a similar idea about how Mass Effect's combat has more to it than Gears'. However, Gears 3 is amazing and it's gameplay mechanics are brilliant, a great improvement over Gears 2.


Agree. Gears 3 was a big improvement, however playing Resistance 3 right before (with all the weird guns and alt-fire) made it quite obvious to me just how limited gears 3 is in many respects, even though the polish is phenomonal. You can almost just lancer your way through the entire campaign. ME2/3 has that aswell, but with the squad, the powers and shields/barriers things quite fast gets way more interesting. Something this multiplayer mode clearly shows in my opinion. March 6...can't wait.

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sympathyforsaren wrote...
Ah yes....and this is the other phenomenon I pointed out earlier....the same people who worship BioWare

Seeing as it is generally not considered a good thing to argue with deities, and as many people know, I have openly criticized two BioWare employees (Which I regret, they are just people trying to do their jobs), I'd say that I am, according to you, about to receive a sacred thunderbolt to the buttocks.

and always post on BSN high-fiving each other

This is indeed a great compliment to be recieving from the masters of the ancient art of circlejerking.

and resorting to immature insults that is actually trolling but mods would never get the likes of Phaedon in trouble (or simply held accountable at a fair and equitable standard compared to others) thinking that because they post in here all of the time they are the majority and speak consensus for everybody in existence.

Well, while on the one hand, it is very intriguing to be accused of such stuff from the guy, who when called out on his repeated attacks on shooter fans replied "Or I can do whatever the f*ck I want, how does that sound?" (with impunity, at that), I do have to remind you that, I hold the record of "locked threads in a row without trolling, which happens to be 4, more than Smuddy's in fact.

It is a very honourable distinction, and I am very disappointed at how much it ruffles your feathers. :?

Multiplayer looking mighty tacky there, Phaedon, unless these sources you deem as viable for other confirmed content is all of a sudden moot.

Some of these sources, including IGN, share our direct opinion, with an attempt to be unbiased for journalistic reasons. But I'm not crying....I'm giving a wait and see approach and have ME3's best interests in mind. I also 'uninvested' money in the game and am waiting.

Your "direct opinion" is bollocks until you play the demo in January, right now, it is diabetes-inducing tears and further lovely unbased generalizations.

BG also had co-op, but of course, no! That's different.
Or maybe BG was a GoW-inspired third person shooter? Hmm, I don't know which sounds less silly, to be honest.


I would gladly post some "sources" that you might like, but the possibility of being reported by 5 to 6 different people on the grounds of "personal attack" is not something I am willing to risk over a typical post of yours. :P

It's obvious more than ever that multiplayer, of course, doesn't belong in ME3. Unless you want to complain to every source that belittled it and basically said folks like myself have a legitimate gripe.

No, folks like you don't have a legitimate gripe at all. You have the logic of a beheaded chicken.
You haven't played the co-op mode, and even if you dislike it, I assumed that you weren't interested in it enough to care? Which definitely allows you just to ignore it completely.

The reviewers had reportedly 10 minutes or so to check the co-op and their impressions are quite mixed overall (Compare Game Informer to IGN, etc). What remains is to play the demo on January, or wait until March for the impressions of the same journalists after several hours of gameplay, on the final product.

Co-op doesn't belong to ME3?
You mean, co-op isn't necessary in ME3, surely, because that other statement is utterly retarded. While unecessary by itself, and although I would have much preferred an offline "Terrorist Hunt" of sorts, it definitely provides a couple of advantages. For one, I'll be able to play this awesome game with friends, or even fellow forumites, and it also contributes to providing the real scale of the war. Unlike, the major Eden Prime War conflict and ME1, which handled it more poorely than a tightwadish anthropomorphic duck who wears a top hat. :D

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I gotta say, this is disappointing. So the MP is just a crappy horde mode. 11 waves. No tower D elements. Limited powers. Same Cerberus enemies. No bosses.

Does this sound interesting to anyone? It might be fun for a few days, but who's going to want to play this for any length of time when I can hop on to Gears 3 and play Horde 2.0 (with vastly superior shooting elements)?

I think the gamesradar summed it up best by saying that Mass Effect is defined by its story, characters, and world, not by its shooting. Taken in isolation, the shooting is medicore at best. Sure, the MP might not "take away" from the SP. It might even be a mildly fun diversion. But ultimately nobody is going to care it exists.

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Phaedon wrote...
and it also contributes to providing the real scale of the war. 


It was this potential that turned me into a multiplayer advocate but from these articles i get the feeling this will be a missed opportunity. The multiplayer seems to be devoid of any real story beyond "there were these spec op guys fighting somewhere". Then being able to transport your multiplayer character into the single player story for shepard to order around seems to further shrink the "galactic war" down into a series of events fixed around our hero shepard to chosen one. Not what i was hoping for. 

Modifié par DCarter, 28 octobre 2011 - 02:05 .


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Meh. The reviews are mixed and It looks like the Quarians and Geth won't be playable after all :(

Hopefully we'll get cool new Quarian and Geth squadmates in single player to make up for it 

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Meh. The reviews are mixed and It looks like the Quarians and Geth won't be playable after all :(

I wouldn't be too bothered. If all playing another race entails to you is being able to use a different character model to shoot stuff, you can achieve that by modding the single player. 

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What if we don't want to mod the game? What if we can't?

No quarians, no geth... Just doesn't seem right if they are putting in drell of all things, the race with the least amount of people in the known galaxy outside the yahg.

Edit: Actually, scratch that, the drell have less people then the yagh. The drell have enough people for a large country, thats it.

Modifié par Nashiktal, 28 octobre 2011 - 02:32 .


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Each race has a unique ability by the way.

I doubt that can be achieved through a simple skin swap.

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Nashiktal wrote...

What if we don't want to mod the game? What if we can't?

No quarians, no geth... Just doesn't seem right if they are putting in drell of all things, the race with the least amount of people in the known galaxy outside the yahg.

Edit: Actually, scratch that, the drell have less people then the yagh. The drell have enough people for a large country, thats it.


Not to mention the fact that the Drell were shoehorned in a third of the way through the trilogy for sex appeal, while the Quarians have been part of the Mass Effect Universe since the beginning <_< 

And the Quarians are the only race other than humans to already have both male and female models. 

I don't hate the Drell or anything, but I'm annoyed that they "got in" and the Quarians did not. 

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Each race has a unique ability by the way.

I doubt that can be achieved through a simple skin swap.


And? They went through the trouble to even put multiplayer into the game in the first place. Arguments of resources apparently do not apply here.

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Maybe they're keeping the quarians out so they have an excuse to have male-only aliens.

I know, weakest argument ever..