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[Quole]

Made Nightwing wrote...

Ah Quole, you delightfully irritating troll. Once again you venture out from under the bridge to bash every character you can get to. Your Protoss roots continue to shine through.

Do not speak of protoss. You know nothing of protoss.

[Made Nightwing]

Quole wrote...

Made Nightwing wrote...

Ah Quole, you delightfully irritating troll. Once again you venture out from under the bridge to bash every character you can get to. Your Protoss roots continue to shine through.

Do not speak of protoss. You know nothing of protoss.

Rudimentary troll. You fumble in ignorance. There is a realm of trolling so far above your own as to be beyond comprehension. This exchange is over.

Modifié par Made Nightwing, 01 novembre 2011 - 09:20 .

[Quole]

Made Nightwing wrote...

Quole wrote...

Made Nightwing wrote...

Ah Quole, you delightfully irritating troll. Once again you venture out from under the bridge to bash every character you can get to. Your Protoss roots continue to shine through.

Do not speak of protoss. You know nothing of protoss.

Rudimentary troll. You fumble in ignorance. There is a realm of trolling so far above your own as to be beyond comprehension. This exchange is over.

Reported for harassment.

[Made Nightwing]

Quole wrote...

Made Nightwing wrote...

Quole wrote...

Made Nightwing wrote...

Ah Quole, you delightfully irritating troll. Once again you venture out from under the bridge to bash every character you can get to. Your Protoss roots continue to shine through.

Do not speak of protoss. You know nothing of protoss.

Rudimentary troll. You fumble in ignorance. There is a realm of trolling so far above your own as to be beyond comprehension. This exchange is over.

Reported for harassment.

You have failed, we will find another way.

[Quole]

Made Nightwing wrote...

Quole wrote...

Made Nightwing wrote...

Quole wrote...

Made Nightwing wrote...

Ah Quole, you delightfully irritating troll. Once again you venture out from under the bridge to bash every character you can get to. Your Protoss roots continue to shine through.

Do not speak of protoss. You know nothing of protoss.

Rudimentary troll. You fumble in ignorance. There is a realm of trolling so far above your own as to be beyond comprehension. This exchange is over.

Reported for harassment.

You have failed, we will find another way.

Today Zerg prevails.

[Made Nightwing]

pfft, Zerg is for noob players who can't master Protoss.

[CptData]

ADLegend21 wrote...

The VS helped SHepard the first time, and they wish you luck on Horizon, that hardly counts as a betrayal. If they'd knocke dShepard out and dragged them to arcturus then that'd be a betrayal, but they do no such thing even though they have every right to slap some cuffs on Shepard and arrest them.

Indeed.
By the way, just had to go through Horizon two hours ago. Shepard seriously sounded heartbroken after talking to Kelly (at least when picking proper lines). He also talked to Joker. If you pick the paragon option Shepard tells Joker "it's over" - means it's a break up.

Now, lets say Shepard is a realist, then he's right. At that point there is no reason for staying loyal, right? No - at least if you're taking that message of Ash serious. I do. That's why my Shepard don't start anything new with a ME2 character. He still hopes to fix what happened on Horizon with Ashley. 

[Ryzaki]

iakus wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

iakus wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

It's not like they were pushing buttons. The Beacon went off the moment someone got close enough to it: eventually, someone was going to get close to it regardless.

Sure, but how about it goes off when someone gets close to it attempting to study it rather than a soldier just failing to overcome their curiosity? In any case, you aren't necessarily right anyway. The beacon being "activated" like that might have prompted knowledgeable professions to keep their distance before approaching it. Caution, you know?

SOMeone like Manuel?  Yeah that worked out 

Manuel who didn't break it you mean? 

Just his brain 

And yet he understood it enough to tell what was going to happen. (Even if he reacted in a CANNOT BE STOPPED!) way instead of like Shepard ranting that they must stop them. 

And one (or two) people's brain is a small price to pay for the warning that beacon gave.

Really Shep acts pretty foamy at the mouth during the council meeting.  Especially if you chose the more neutral options while talking to Anderson about it. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 01 novembre 2011 - 09:56 .

[TobiTobsen]

Horizon and pre LotSB Liara have "please try our new LI's" written all over them.

@OP: Yes.

[alperez]

Roxy12 wrote...


Ashley mentioned that she can't tell the difference between aliens and animals on the citadel. There's not much about this banter that can be misunderstood.

Wondered when this would be brought up, the whole Ash is a racist xenophobe which proves her untrustworthy argument is pretty much proved null and void by how certain other characters act in both me1 and me2.

Wrex tells some pretty funny stories which border on racism yet its never commented on, Grunt takes it one step further in me2 yet he's not commented on either, Tali's feelings towards the geth are a much worse example of racism yet its never commented on.

There are many examples of characters saying much worse than what Ash says and unlike Ash not one of these characters later on seems to change how they feel, yet whenever someone wants to bring up why they dislike or don't trust Ash its because she's the racist xenophobe who can't be trusted.

[alperez]

CptData wrote...


By the way, just had to go through Horizon two hours ago. Shepard seriously sounded heartbroken after talking to Kelly (at least when picking proper lines). He also talked to Joker. If you pick the paragon option Shepard tells Joker "it's over" - means it's a break up.

Now, lets say Shepard is a realist, then he's right. At that point there is no reason for staying loyal, right? No - at least if you're taking that message of Ash serious. I do. That's why my Shepard don't start anything new with a ME2 character. He still hopes to fix what happened on Horizon with Ashley. 

Couldn't agree more.

I think its even more clearly shown in the pre SM scene, if you've stayed faithful the scene takes on a completely different meaning for me and is one of the most powerful in the game.

Shepard sitting alone looking at the photo then standing up nodding and heading off for what could be the last time.

[alperez]

TobiTobsen wrote...

Horizon and pre LotSB Liara have "please try our new LI's" written all over them.

@OP: Yes.

Definetly, if i could get the bad writing out of my head, i'd say it was deliberately done in order to almost force you to cheat in order to really hit you with a consequence of that cheating later on in me3.

The only problem i have though is its hard to get the bad writing out of your head and how they handled the resolution of the romance with Liara didn't exactly make it seem like there'd be serious consequences ahead because of cheating.

[ladyvader]

alperez wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

Horizon and pre LotSB Liara have "please try our new LI's" written all over them.

@OP: Yes.

Definetly, if i could get the bad writing out of my head, i'd say it was deliberately done in order to almost force you to cheat in order to really hit you with a consequence of that cheating later on in me3.

The only problem i have though is its hard to get the bad writing out of your head and how they handled the resolution of the romance with Liara didn't exactly make it seem like there'd be serious consequences ahead because of cheating.

Don't break it off with your ME2 LI while still staying with Liara and I'm willing to bet there will be serious consequences in ME3.  That is where the consequences will be, not in the LotSB DLC or ME2.

[alperez]

ladyvader wrote...

Don't break it off with your ME2 LI while still staying with Liara and I'm willing to bet there will be serious consequences in ME3.  That is where the consequences will be, not in the LotSB DLC or ME2.

Yeah i get that they couldn't off course show the consequences in the dlc or me2 and that it'll only be in me3 that we'll see those consequences, my problem was more how easy it was resuming your romance with Liara.

By making it so easy it comes across not as if they did so in order to facilitate consequences later on but rather they did it that way almost as a shout out to those who were screaming from the rooftops about the Liara romance since me2 was released.

[ladyvader]

alperez wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

Don't break it off with your ME2 LI while still staying with Liara and I'm willing to bet there will be serious consequences in ME3.  That is where the consequences will be, not in the LotSB DLC or ME2.

Yeah i get that they couldn't off course show the consequences in the dlc or me2 and that it'll only be in me3 that we'll see those consequences, my problem was more how easy it was resuming your romance with Liara.

By making it so easy it comes across not as if they did so in order to facilitate consequences later on but rather they did it that way almost as a shout out to those who were screaming from the rooftops about the Liara romance since me2 was released.

Liara clearly doesn't not want any more choices nor aruging.  She does state this in the DLC if you have a LI in ME2.  She knows about it.  

What we don't now is how that is going to play out in ME3 when it comes to the VS.  Liara is more devoted to Shepard, in my view, than the VS is. 

[alperez]

[quote]ladyvader wrote...


[/quote]Liara clearly doesn't not want any more choices nor aruging.  She does state this in the DLC if you have a LI in ME2.  She knows about it.  

What we don't now is how that is going to play out in ME3 when it comes to the VS.  Liara is more devoted to Shepard, in my view, than the VS is. 

[/quote]

I'm trying to replay LOSB in my mind, but as far as i can remember i never played a shepard who was involved with a me2 LI who then decided to resume the romance with Liara, i did play a Liara faithful romance and other who were in relationships with me2 LI's who didn't resume the romance with Liara, so i bow to your superior knowledge on this.

As how it'll play out regarding the VS, well in terms of Ash we've seen in me1 she doesn't handle competition well, her little digs at Liara when both were interested proved this, it will be interesting how she'll respond if Shepard did start a new romance with someone, although it could be something they may gloss over a little, if they've messed her character around too much.

Which of the 2 is more devoted is an interesting point, i'd say each are pretty much the same irrespective of Horizon, since Liara's scene on Illium wasn't that much better if you'd romanced her or not imo.

The main difference i think is Shepard is Liara's first love, that along with his uniqueness in relation to the beacon, his experiences regarding the protheans and some other things (being there when Benezia died for example) may make Liara more forthcoming in that devotion than Ash or Kaiden.

But it could also be something to do with the nature of Asari's themselves and the way they join not only in body but in spirit and mind also.

[PMC65]

alperez wrote...

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As how it'll play out regarding the VS, well in terms of Ash we've seen in me1 she doesn't handle competition well, her little digs at Liara when both were interested proved this, it will be interesting how she'll respond if Shepard did start a new romance with someone, although it could be something they may gloss over a little, if they've messed her character around too much.

Which of the 2 is more devoted is an interesting point, i'd say each are pretty much the same irrespective of Horizon, since Liara's scene on Illium wasn't that much better if you'd romanced her or not imo.

The main difference i think is Shepard is Liara's first love, that along with his uniqueness in relation to the beacon, his experiences regarding the protheans and some other things (being there when Benezia died for example) may make Liara more forthcoming in that devotion than Ash or Kaiden.

But it could also be something to do with the nature of Asari's themselves and the way they join not only in body but in spirit and mind also.

Having Shepards that romanced both Liara & Ash it feels like both care for Shepard but they are very different personalities to start with. 

Liara does not care for conflict so she will play the diplomat (an asari trait) whenever possible. That doesn't mean that she can't bite but she keeps herself in check fairly well.

Ashley is more assertive and forthright. Her emotions tend to guide her and she has no problem b* tch slapping Shepard if needed ... I love that about her.

Kaidan is a mix of both to me ... He fights hard to keep his feelings in check but he would break your neck if he was ever pushed to his limit. 

Having new romances will be interesting to see how Bioware plays the "consequence" cards and how Ash or Kaidan responds to who you are seeing should also be unique to their personalities as well your choice. If you are with Tali or Garrus that should really strike a nerve. 

We will see. 

EDIT: spelling

Modifié par PMC65, 02 novembre 2011 - 12:35 .

[alperez]

jreezy wrote...

That's more of a fact than an opinion considering what Liara does for Shepard.

Well we've yet to see if there are any real ramifications regarding Shepard's resurrection, i mean we could be getting set up for a Cerberus used reaper tech to resurrect Shepard which could cause serious problems with indoctrination and worse later on, Liara handing over Shepard's body to cerberus could turn out to be the worst thing ever.

Not saying they'll go that route, but just how devoted to Shepard would it make Liara if by giving his body to cerberus she allowed the reapers to get a foothold into the person who'll be rallying the galaxy to stop them, having this foothold allows the reapers to basically kill off the resistance before it really gets a chance to resist, the more devoted action would have been to just let Shepard die then wouldn't it.

[Made Nightwing]

jreezy wrote...

Made Nightwing wrote...

Quole wrote...

Made Nightwing wrote...

Ah Quole, you delightfully irritating troll. Once again you venture out from under the bridge to bash every character you can get to. Your Protoss roots continue to shine through.

Do not speak of protoss. You know nothing of protoss.

Rudimentary troll. You fumble in ignorance. There is a realm of trolling so far above your own as to be beyond comprehension. This exchange is over.

Why are you awesome?

It comes and goes.

[Iakus]

ladyvader wrote...

Liara is more devoted to Shepard, in my view, than the VS is. 

Perhaps.  But we don't know what the VS has been doing for the last two years.  They could very well have been working with Anderson to try and prepare for the Reaper invasion.

[ladyvader]

iakus wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

Liara is more devoted to Shepard, in my view, than the VS is. 

Perhaps.  But we don't know what the VS has been doing for the last two years.  They could very well have been working with Anderson to try and prepare for the Reaper invasion.

For some reason, I highly doubt it.  Especially from their comments on Horizon.  

And even if that is the case, it still has nothing to do with being devoted to Shepard.  

[ADLegend21]

I don't think Liara's more devoted, she was the only one willing to work with Cerberus. could you imagine TIM trying to ask Ashley of all people to help with Shepard? She'd have put shepard ina grave raher than ahve them in debt to cerberus. That beig said I don't think anyone one Love interest is more devoted than the next or else there'd be fights over who deserves Shepard and that's unbecoming of people in their 30's and 40's (and their hundreds for both Asari that serve under Shepard)