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[Adanu]

D.Kain wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

the day femsheps personality becomes feminine is the day I loose all respect for bioware,

Yep, that's what I'm talking about. A true FemShep fan here. 

Gotta love the tunnel vision here.

[D.Kain]

Adanu wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

the day femsheps personality becomes feminine is the day I loose all respect for bioware,

Yep, that's what I'm talking about. A true FemShep fan here. 

Gotta love the tunnel vision here.

But the subject is pretty narrow here.

[JamieCOTC]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

I think people are speaking way too much in absolutes here...

When people ask for a "more feminine" femShep, I don't think they're asking for more overall differences to distinguish her as "female". I think what they're asking for instead (and I know I'm asking for it) is the option to take a more obviously feminine route in conversations and actions, thus differentiating femShep if we so choose by giving her different animations and lines more suitable for a "womanly" woman. While she IS an elite soldier, some of us would like to have a chance to explore the other side of being a female soldier versus a male.

While people often refer to the dress, I'd like to refer to the loyalty mission for Samara. Did anyone else think that playing as femShep through that was awkward? The whole time it felt tailor-made for broShep instead, and now we threw a female into it. She didn't play up her feminine sexuality; we only had the choice of being butch and broad-chested. Like a typical man would.

This has absolutely nothing to do with gender roles or feminism. I'm perfectly fine with femShep as she is. But giving me the option to show off her more feminine side in situations accordingly would be a new experience I'd really like.

Plus, if she could walk a little less like a man when she's out of her armor, that would be swell.

The sad thing is a good post like this will probably be completely ignored.

Very good post and pretty much the way I feel about it.  And you are right, EternalAmbiguity, this will probely get totally ignored. 

[Darth Death]

I want a booty shaking femshep! Kaiden deserves it!

[nitefyre410]

Becasue we all  know Real Women don't wear dress    


Asking for a more Femine  Shepard does not  mean making her ditz,runaway model, blow up doll or what ever else 

Lord for bid she just spent a whole day and some covered in alien god knows what, come take a shower  and what look and smell nice for once.  Good god forbid if she wants to go spa and *gasp* pampered.  

 

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

I think people are speaking way too much in absolutes here...

When people ask for a "more feminine" femShep, I don't think they're asking for more overall differences to distinguish her as "female". I think what they're asking for instead (and I know I'm asking for it) is the option to take a more obviously feminine route in conversations and actions, thus differentiating femShep if we so choose by giving her different animations and lines more suitable for a "womanly" woman. While she IS an elite soldier, some of us would like to have a chance to explore the other side of being a female soldier versus a male.

While people often refer to the dress, I'd like to refer to the loyalty mission for Samara. Did anyone else think that playing as femShep through that was awkward? The whole time it felt tailor-made for broShep instead, and now we threw a female into it. She didn't play up her feminine sexuality; we only had the choice of being butch and broad-chested. Like a typical man would.

This has absolutely nothing to do with gender roles or feminism. I'm perfectly fine with femShep as she is. But giving me the option to show off her more feminine side in situations accordingly would be a new experience I'd really like.

Plus, if she could walk a little less like a man when she's out of her armor, that would be swell.

The sad thing is a good post like this will probably be completely ignored.

 

^ I agree with the post  completely .

Modifié par nitefyre410, 29 octobre 2011 - 06:19 .

[Darth Death]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Becasue we all  know Real Women don't wear dress    


Asking for a more Femine  Shepard does not  mean making her ditz,runaway model, blow up doll or what ever else 

Lord for bid she just spent a whole day and some covered in alien god knows what, come take a shower  and what look and smell nice for once.  Good god forbid if she wants to go spa and *gasp* pampered.  

 

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

I think people are speaking way too much in absolutes here...

When people ask for a "more feminine" femShep, I don't think they're asking for more overall differences to distinguish her as "female". I think what they're asking for instead (and I know I'm asking for it) is the option to take a more obviously feminine route in conversations and actions, thus differentiating femShep if we so choose by giving her different animations and lines more suitable for a "womanly" woman. While she IS an elite soldier, some of us would like to have a chance to explore the other side of being a female soldier versus a male.

While people often refer to the dress, I'd like to refer to the loyalty mission for Samara. Did anyone else think that playing as femShep through that was awkward? The whole time it felt tailor-made for broShep instead, and now we threw a female into it. She didn't play up her feminine sexuality; we only had the choice of being butch and broad-chested. Like a typical man would.

This has absolutely nothing to do with gender roles or feminism. I'm perfectly fine with femShep as she is. But giving me the option to show off her more feminine side in situations accordingly would be a new experience I'd really like.

Plus, if she could walk a little less like a man when she's out of her armor, that would be swell.

The sad thing is a good post like this will probably be completely ignored.

 

^ I agree with the post  completely .

I agree too.

[Selene Moonsong]

Things I would like to see done to make FemShep more feminine...

Animations that are anatomically correct for a female skeletal frame, such as walking, running, etc.

Animations such as facial expression, gestures, etc, as a woman would make them.

Comments made in more feminine manner depending on the circumstances. It isn't so much what is said, it is more how things are said that make a difference, even when the lines of dialogue are exactly the same.

All in all, There was very little difference between playing female or male Shepard in ME 2, other than romantic choices available.

I want the Devs to make me believe FemShep is a woman, beyond a figure, hairstyle, makeup, and voice set.

[Darth Death]

Selene Moonsong wrote...

Things I would like to see done to make FemShep more feminine...

Animations that are anatomically correct for a female skeletal frame, such as walking, running, etc.

Animations such as facial expression, gestures, etc, as a woman would make them.

Comments made in more feminine manner depending on the circumstances. It isn't so much what is said, it is more how things are said that make a difference, even when the lines of dialogue are exactly the same.

All in all, There was very little difference between playing female or male Shepard in ME 2, other than romantic choices available.

I want the Devs to make me believe FemShep is a woman, beyond a figure, hairstyle, makeup, and voice set.

I agree with this as well. They did a great job in DA2 making female Hawke as such. No excuse why it can't be done for ME3.

[nitefyre410]

Selene Moonsong wrote...

Things I would like to see done to make FemShep more feminine...

Animations that are anatomically correct for a female skeletal frame, such as walking, running, etc.

Animations such as facial expression, gestures, etc, as a woman would make them.

Comments made in more feminine manner depending on the circumstances. It isn't so much what is said, it is more how things are said that make a difference, even when the lines of dialogue are exactly the same.

All in all, There was very little difference between playing female or male Shepard in ME 2, other than romantic choices available.

I want the Devs to make me believe FemShep is a woman, beyond a figure, hairstyle, makeup, and voice set.

 


agree'd  If feels the same Shepard with different model and voice actor but there nothing really different. 

[Sylvianus]

Darth Death wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Becasue we all  know Real Women don't wear dress    


Asking for a more Femine  Shepard does not  mean making her ditz,runaway model, blow up doll or what ever else 

Lord for bid she just spent a whole day and some covered in alien god knows what, come take a shower  and what look and smell nice for once.  Good god forbid if she wants to go spa and *gasp* pampered.  

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

I think people are speaking way too much in absolutes here...

When people ask for a "more feminine" femShep, I don't think they're asking for more overall differences to distinguish her as "female". I think what they're asking for instead (and I know I'm asking for it) is the option to take a more obviously feminine route in conversations and actions, thus differentiating femShep if we so choose by giving her different animations and lines more suitable for a "womanly" woman. While she IS an elite soldier, some of us would like to have a chance to explore the other side of being a female soldier versus a male.

While people often refer to the dress, I'd like to refer to the loyalty mission for Samara. Did anyone else think that playing as femShep through that was awkward? The whole time it felt tailor-made for broShep instead, and now we threw a female into it. She didn't play up her feminine sexuality; we only had the choice of being butch and broad-chested. Like a typical man would.

This has absolutely nothing to do with gender roles or feminism. I'm perfectly fine with femShep as she is. But giving me the option to show off her more feminine side in situations accordingly would be a new experience I'd really like.

Plus, if she could walk a little less like a man when she's out of her armor, that would be swell.

The sad thing is a good post like this will probably be completely ignored.

 

^ I agree with the post  completely .

I agree too.

All this.

Selene Moonsong wrote...

Things I would like to see done to make FemShep more feminine...

Animations that are anatomically correct for a female skeletal frame, such as walking, running, etc.

Animations such as facial expression, gestures, etc, as a woman would make them.

Comments
made in more feminine manner depending on the circumstances. It isn't
so much what is said, it is more how things are said that make a
difference, even when the lines of dialogue are exactly the same.

All
in all, There was very little difference between playing female or male
Shepard in ME 2, other than romantic choices available.

I want the Devs to make me believe FemShep is a woman, beyond a figure, hairstyle, makeup, and voice set.

That.

[sevach]

How about instead of "taking heavy fire", "My nails!!!!! you son..."

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

For movement in armor: Epic games did a great job with Anya and Sam in Gears 3, IMO.

I agree with Selene Moonsong's post. Throw in postures, gestures, facial expressions, how she makes whatever comments she makes. I want to believe this is a woman regardless of the makeup, figure, etc. One should have no doubt even if one opts for the close cropped hair and no makeup.

[sagefic]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

I think people are speaking way too much in absolutes here...

When people ask for a "more feminine" femShep, I don't think they're asking for more overall differences to distinguish her as "female". I think what they're asking for instead (and I know I'm asking for it) is the option to take a more obviously feminine route in conversations and actions, thus differentiating femShep if we so choose by giving her different animations and lines more suitable for a "womanly" woman. While she IS an elite soldier, some of us would like to have a chance to explore the other side of being a female soldier versus a male.

While people often refer to the dress, I'd like to refer to the loyalty mission for Samara. Did anyone else think that playing as femShep through that was awkward? The whole time it felt tailor-made for broShep instead, and now we threw a female into it. She didn't play up her feminine sexuality; we only had the choice of being butch and broad-chested. Like a typical man would.

This has absolutely nothing to do with gender roles or feminism. I'm perfectly fine with femShep as she is. But giving me the option to show off her more feminine side in situations accordingly would be a new experience I'd really like.

Plus, if she could walk a little less like a man when she's out of her armor, that would be swell.

The sad thing is a good post like this will probably be completely ignored.

qft.

also, i personally like my femshep tomboyish and slightly awkward in a dress. BUT that's how i choose to RP her. other people would prefer a more womanly/feminine option, and that would be great.

i'd like to see more options here, NOT that femshep gets hijacked and made to fit someone else's idea of 'girly' (e.g., if there is a LAdy Hawke wiggle to her walk in ME3, i think i'm going to gag.)

Modifié par sagequeen, 29 octobre 2011 - 10:32 .

[GMagnum]

iwan my male shep to act more feminine
booty poppin on da dance floor get it get it

[Abraham_uk]

Imagine this. A really feminine Male Shepard. That I'd love to see.

Anyway, I like the fact she isn't a sex object. She looks like a Space Marine.

[D.Kain]

* Removed by Moderator as off topic for this discussion: This topic is about the female shepard * 

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 29 octobre 2011 - 10:50 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Selene Moonsong wrote...

Things I would like to see done to make FemShep more feminine...

Animations that are anatomically correct for a female skeletal frame, such as walking, running, etc.

Animations such as facial expression, gestures, etc, as a woman would make them.

Comments made in more feminine manner depending on the circumstances. It isn't so much what is said, it is more how things are said that make a difference, even when the lines of dialogue are exactly the same.

All in all, There was very little difference between playing female or male Shepard in ME 2, other than romantic choices available.

I want the Devs to make me believe FemShep is a woman, beyond a figure, hairstyle, makeup, and voice set.

The problem is that the differences you are talking about are so subtle that I'm afraid the devs would overdo it and suddenly FemHawke buttwiggle.

I do agree that animations should actually fit her body, though, and I'd appreciate it if the game would stop assuming Shepard is male by default.  FemShep should be an equal alternative, not some awkward substitute.

[Abraham_uk]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I do agree that animations should actually fit her body, though, and I'd appreciate it if the game would stop assuming Shepard is male by default.  FemShep should be an equal alternative, not some awkward substitute.

Simple solution. Just ask any female to walk normally. No other directions. Just walk. Ask her to make all the various annimations (walking, talking, facial expressions etc) in a normal manner. Don't give her too much direction. Then we'll have a more female FemShep without being too masculine or over sexualised female.

[AdmiralCheez]

jreezy wrote...
Problem with FemHawke butt wiggle?

It's actually hard to walk like that all the time, believe it or not.

On a more serious note, I wish BioWare would just explain already what they've done to correct the atrocious animations of Mass Effect 2. I'm pretty sure NOBODY wanted FemShep to walk around like a gorilla with a neck problem.

I have a theory that, while going through all the old files, they accidentally deleted the ME1 walk/run animation.  They didn't notice until it was too late, and had somebody whip up a quick replacement.

[Blazenor]

FemShepFTW wrote...

 You know how in ME2 the amazing FemShep was a totall badass?
Well what if he was a totall badass with a more girly side for example
1.A Sassy-Feminine walk/run
2.The way she stands
3.How she Sits
4.Even the way she speaks; Dialouge,accent
What are your thoughts on this,what do you think would happen?

So you want to bring sexy back to FemShep?

[sagefic]

Ya know, there really wasn't a problem with femshep's animations in ME1 that I can recall.

The issues seemed to be introduced with the 'improved' walk of ME2 and the kasumi skirt debacle.

[Avilia]

ME1 animations would work for me.

Though I'd rather they did nothing and left the gorilla as is, than do something similar to the 'side hinge' waggle and lower back breaking stance that is female Hawke.