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[Bekkael]

Ravensword wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Hathur wrote...

No thanks... Other than a few corrected animations is all.

Do not want the one rare female role model in a game I can look up to being turned into a ditsy teenage girl or runway model. 

^^ WSS

Aside from the big leg splays when she sits, I'm very happy with FemShep and her current level of badassery.

That's not really a problem except when she's in evening wear.

I dunno. It looked an awful lot like she was accomodating gonads she didn't have... But it was much worse in a dress, no doubt. Which is why I changed her out of it right after the Kasumi mission. She wasn't comfortable in it.

[tobynator89]

Ravensword wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

I simply can not understand the people who made femshep prance around in a dress.

I did rather enjoy ManShep's evening wear. IT looked very smart and w/o any of the ghastly Cerberus logos.

*Sips tea*

Made him look like a ponce and a civilian.

*smashes whiskey bottle and threatens ravensword with it*

[D.Kain]

Bekkael wrote...

I dunno. It looked an awful lot like she was accomodating gonads she didn't have... But it was much worse in a dress, no doubt. Which is why I changed her out of it right after the Kasumi mission. She wasn't comfortable in it.

Men do not NEED to sit with split legs for it not to hurt too. lol 
I can cross my legs and have one of my legs cross the other second time a little bit.

[DaringMoosejaw]

I think leaving the personality alone is best. The RIG, however, I think is pretty silly for a woman. Women are built differently, they should move differently. Deal with it. They shouldn't go for the Lady Hawke sashay, of course, I think they obviously went overboard there, but she should still get her own gender appropriate animations.

And if anyone really thinks the best ideal of a female role model is someone who moves EXACTLY like a man, that has some unfortunate implications. There are ways to be feminine without being turned into a sex kitten.

[D.Kain]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Yep, I find it annoying as well, even for MaleShep. I don't think anyone (except a cowboy wannabe/dude who drives a truck that's 5 feet off the ground with an apparently broken muffler) sits like that.

Or a porn star with a stuffed ....

[Kaiser Shepard]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

TROLL SPOTTED.

Of course, Jubileus forbid a girl acting like a girl.

[D.Kain]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

TROLL SPOTTED.

Of course, Jubileus forbid a girl acting like a girl.

Soldiers act like soldiers. 

[D.Kain]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

I think leaving the personality alone is best. The RIG, however, I think is pretty silly for a woman. Women are built differently, they should move differently. Deal with it. They shouldn't go for the Lady Hawke sashay, of course, I think they obviously went overboard there, but she should still get her own gender appropriate animations.

And if anyone really thinks the best ideal of a female role model is someone who moves EXACTLY like a man, that has some unfortunate implications. There are ways to be feminine without being turned into a sex kitten.

War is a masculine thing. Women that are soldiers have to be masculine. It's like saying that a man hairstylist HAS to be manly, because men are men.

Modifié par D.Kain, 28 octobre 2011 - 03:40 .

[AdmiralCheez]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

I think leaving the personality alone is best. The RIG, however, I think is pretty silly for a woman. Women are built differently, they should move differently. Deal with it. They shouldn't go for the Lady Hawke sashay, of course, I think they obviously went overboard there, but she should still get her own gender appropriate animations.

And if anyone really thinks the best ideal of a female role model is someone who moves EXACTLY like a man, that has some unfortunate implications. There are ways to be feminine without being turned into a sex kitten.

I agree with this.  However, apart from a few animation tweaks, I believe both Shepards should be pretty much equal in behavior.  No need to impose stereotypical gender roles on them.

[DaringMoosejaw]

D.Kain wrote...

War is a masculine thing. Women that are soldiers have to be masculine. It's like saying that a man hairstylist HAS to be manly, because men are men.

War is not an inherently 'masculine' thing even though it's pretty much always been in the domain of men. You shoot a gun, it fires a bullet, doesn't matter what's between your legs when you do it. The way a human being is built DOES depend on gender, however.

[Bekkael]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Bekkael wrote...
Aside from the big leg splays when she sits, I'm very happy with FemShep and her current level of badassery.

That's not really a problem except when she's in evening wear.

I dunno. It looked an awful lot like she was accomodating gonads she didn't have... But it was much worse in a dress, no doubt. Which is why I changed her out of it right after the Kasumi mission. She wasn't comfortable in it.

Yep, I find it annoying as well, even for MaleShep. I don't think anyone (except a cowboy wannabe/dude who drives a truck that's 5 feet off the ground with an apparently broken muffler) sits like that.

That made me LOL. I know men don't need to sit that way, but they certainly have more excuse for it than a woman. The only time I ever sit with my legs in different zip codes is when I'm doing stretches. Otherwise, it looks rather odd. 

[Xilizhra]

I support girly sides for both genders.

[D.Kain]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

War is not an inherently 'masculine' thing even though it's pretty much always been in the domain of men. You shoot a gun, it fires a bullet, doesn't matter what's between your legs when you do it. The way a human being is built DOES depend on gender, however.

The way a human being is built depends a lot on the life style that a human has.

[Bekkael]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

I think leaving the personality alone is best. The RIG, however, I think is pretty silly for a woman. Women are built differently, they should move differently. Deal with it. They shouldn't go for the Lady Hawke sashay, of course, I think they obviously went overboard there, but she should still get her own gender appropriate animations.

And if anyone really thinks the best ideal of a female role model is someone who moves EXACTLY like a man, that has some unfortunate implications. There are ways to be feminine without being turned into a sex kitten.

I agree with this.  However, apart from a few animation tweaks, I believe both Shepards should be pretty much equal in behavior.  No need to impose stereotypical gender roles on them.

Yes, this. The animations in ME1 were perfectly fine and I think everyone was happy with them. At least, I've never seen anyone complain about them.

[D.Kain]

Xilizhra wrote...

I support girly sides for both genders.

Yeah, male Shepard can look and act like this. 

[Leonia]

Oh my gosh guys can we stop fighting for a minute and go shoe shopping?

[DaringMoosejaw]

D.Kain wrote...

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

War is not an inherently 'masculine' thing even though it's pretty much always been in the domain of men. You shoot a gun, it fires a bullet, doesn't matter what's between your legs when you do it. The way a human being is built DOES depend on gender, however.

The way a human being is built depends a lot on the life style that a human has.

Most of it, sure. All I'm talking about is what Cheeze is, a unique rig with tweaks to a few of the animations to acknowledge the difference.

[D.Kain]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

No D, the actual structure, the skeleton of each gender is different.

Well ofcourse. lol I know that. It doesn't mean though that different movments can be easy spotted.

[Xilizhra]

D.Kain wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I support girly sides for both genders.

Yeah, male Shepard can look and act like this. 

That'll work. Or, perhaps even better, have Vega act like it. Maybe then having another typical Alliance soldier whose main distinction is having had less development time than the VS will actually be worthwhile.

[Bekkael]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Bekkael wrote...
That made me LOL. I know men don't need to sit that way, but they certainly have more excuse for it than a woman. The only time I ever sit with my legs in different zip codes is when I'm doing stretches. Otherwise, it looks rather odd. 

I think it looks odd for guys too. What's wrong there, fella, your package so small you've got to point it out to everyone?

For some reason I saw cowboys in my mind when I read your post.

[D.Kain]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

Most of it, sure. All I'm talking about is what Cheeze is, a unique rig with tweaks to a few of the animations to acknowledge the difference.

Maybe. I just don't see women walk a lot differently when they are not on stage.

[C9316]

I demand more manly side to Maleshep. This means he has to admit to being a brony.