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[Spatchmo]

Since CCP can't afford to sustain it. Bioware is one of the few companies I think that could make a great Vampire: The Masquerade game. It's unfortunate, because the features they had planned for that mmorpg sounded really interesting.

www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/10/19/ccp-fire-20-staff-focus-on-eve/

[Sharpus]

No, just no. White Wolf wouldn't sell their dark goth franchise to turn into vampire/werewolf/etc. dating simulator promoting deviant sexual behaviors.

Modifié par Sharpus, 28 octobre 2011 - 08:17 .

[HoonDing]

No thanks. I wouldn't want World of Darkness to turn into World of Twilight.

[Rockworm503]

no I don't want (enter stupid joke about Bioware's games that have no basis in reality)

on an aside World of Twilight THAT IS FUNNY!

[Zanallen]

Yeah, I wouldn't want a Bioware game to promote untrue stereotypes about vampires and illicit relationships. We all know vampires are upstanding citizens with no penchant for deviant behavior.

On a more serious note, I wouldn't mind it. Bioware could do a Vampire the Masquerade game justice. Or maybe a Werewolf game.

[naughty99]

Not sure exactly what this Darkness MMO game has to do with the Vampire the Masquerade IP, but I'd love to see Obsidian develop a single player sequel to Bloodlines. A few of the original Troika devs are now based at Obsidian.

Modifié par naughty99, 28 octobre 2011 - 10:18 .

[xkg]

naughty99 wrote...

Not sure exactly what this Darkness MMO game has to do with the Vampire the Masquerade IP, but I'd love to see Obsidian develop a single player sequel to Bloodlines. A few of the original Troika devs are now based at Obsidian.

Vampire The Masquerade is a setting for World of Darkness RPG system. Just like Forgotten Realms -> Dungeons & Dragons.
And World of Darkness MMO is going to be beased on this setting.

[Cyberarmy]

Vampire The Masquerade, Bloodlines is one of the best RPGs i have ever played.
So i say NO. For the sake of Malkavians...

[Spatchmo]

naughty99 wrote...

Not sure exactly what this Darkness MMO game has to do with the Vampire the Masquerade IP, but I'd love to see Obsidian develop a single player sequel to Bloodlines. A few of the original Troika devs are now based at Obsidian.

Has Obsidian released any polished and completely finished games other than New Vegas, though? So many Obsidian games I have played were really close to being awesome, but they either lacked content or the gameplay wasn't quite polished enough to be great. That's why, between the two, I prefer Bioware. Though given enough dev times I have no doubt that Obsidian could be Bioware's equal.

[Chromie]

Spatchmo wrote...
Has Obsidian released any polished and completely finished games other than New Vegas, though? So many Obsidian games I have played were really close to being awesome, but they either lacked content or the gameplay wasn't quite polished enough to be great. That's why, between the two, I prefer Bioware. Though given enough dev times I have no doubt that Obsidian could be Bioware's equal.

I think Neverwinter Nights 2 is so better than the original. Obsidian can make great but they aren't polished which well hurts their reputation. Kotor 2 really could have been so much better than then Kotor 1 but Lucas Arts were dicks and forced them to release the game to fast and Obsidian even offered to patch in all the missing content but Lucas Arts wouldn't let them. But reading and playing some of the cut content (through mods) you can really see how much more personal the story was this time around while being even more epic in scope compared to Bioware's.

But for this game I highly doubt Bioware could pull it off. Look at The Old Republic. It's not too different from WoW gameplay wise but look at WoD which has permadeaths and all that would Bioware consider even having a hardcore feature like that in an mmo?

Modifié par Ringo12, 28 octobre 2011 - 06:01 .

[Nameless one7]

So why did Lucasarts not allow the patching of content for KoToR 2?

[Homebound]

bioware is a boy boy now, bioware can make his own decisions, LEAVE BIOWARE ALONE!

[Chromie]

Nameless one7 wrote...

So why did Lucasarts not allow the patching of content for KoToR 2?

To be dicks and nothing more.

[Krusty84]

Spatchmo wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

Not sure exactly what this Darkness MMO game has to do with the Vampire the Masquerade IP, but I'd love to see Obsidian develop a single player sequel to Bloodlines. A few of the original Troika devs are now based at Obsidian.

Has Obsidian released any polished and completely finished games other than New Vegas, though?

Mask of Betrayer alone beats every Bioware game.

[Romantiq]

I agree with a lot of above posts. Bioware would just turn that into Twilight and we'll have glittering vampires with awful romances created by Miss Hepler. Needs a much more serious developer.

Modifié par Romantiq, 28 octobre 2011 - 08:28 .

[HoonDing]

Krusty84 wrote...

Spatchmo wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

Not sure exactly what this Darkness MMO game has to do with the Vampire the Masquerade IP, but I'd love to see Obsidian develop a single player sequel to Bloodlines. A few of the original Troika devs are now based at Obsidian.

Has Obsidian released any polished and completely finished games other than New Vegas, though?

Mask of Betrayer alone beats every Bioware game.

Well, maybe it beats Dragon Age 2.

Modifié par virumor, 28 octobre 2011 - 09:28 .

[Sharpus]

virumor wrote...

Krusty84 wrote...

Spatchmo wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

Not sure exactly what this Darkness MMO game has to do with the Vampire the Masquerade IP, but I'd love to see Obsidian develop a single player sequel to Bloodlines. A few of the original Troika devs are now based at Obsidian.

Has Obsidian released any polished and completely finished games other than New Vegas, though?

Mask of Betrayer alone beats every Bioware game.

Well, maybe it beats Dragon Age 2.

Everything beats DA2. MotB is in Torment league, so it beats every Bioware game minus BG2 maybe.

[bmwcrazy]

Sharpus wrote...

...dating simulator promoting deviant sexual behaviors.

You've caught my attention. Please continue.

Modifié par bmwcrazy, 28 octobre 2011 - 10:04 .

[Spatchmo]

bmwcrazy wrote...

Sharpus wrote...

...dating simulator promoting deviant sexual behaviors.

You've caught my attention. Please continue.

World of Darkness vampires really get around town, from what I gather.

[HoonDing]

World of Darkness vampires care only about blood and the jihad.

[Chromie]

virumor wrote...

World of Darkness vampires care only about blood and the jihad.

Not sure if that's a bad thing?

[SOLID_EVEREST]

No, please don't even mention it. It needs a serious developer with a good gaming streak. I think a developer like Rockstar would have fun with the license. I mean a perfect game would be VtM: B on a GTA IV engine *drools*. If anyone would be a perfect developer for it, I would go straight to Obsidian. Anyways, they say that Alpha Protocol is a sort of spiritual successor to VtM: B. Jeez, from reading the article, that company, CCP or whatever, is doing the exact same IDIOT, STUPID decision that Interplay did with its decision to can Van Buren for Brotherhood of Steel. A stupid FPS over WoD sounds really dumb.

[Seagloom]

naughty99 wrote...

Not sure exactly what this Darkness MMO game has to do with the Vampire the Masquerade IP, but I'd love to see Obsidian develop a single player sequel to Bloodlines. A few of the original Troika devs are now based at Obsidian.

Brian Mitsoda left Obsidian to start Doublebear and Leonard Boyarsky is currently working for Blizzard. I think they have a few programmers that worked on Bloodlines, such as Brock Heinz, but I thought the writing was what made it memorable.

In any case, I would not mind BioWare working on a World of Darkness game. Bloodlines was gory and had its dark moments, but swaths of it were cartoony. Malkavians were hardly a realistic and disturbing representation of real world clinical insanity, or even WoD lunacy. Some of the darker plot points were a touch stereotypical too. Jeanette/Therese is a good example of that. I love Bloodlines. It is one of my top five RPGs of all time. But it is not as dark as the WoD setting can be and hardly an example of flawlessly done gritty storytelling.

That said, BioWare is perhaps best suited to a property outside Vampire: The Requiem. I would prefer they worked on a Hunter: The Vigil or Geist: The Sin-Eaters game. Any subsetting with darkness and despair with a silver lining that lends itself better to playing a heroic character is preferable. Requiem is an exercise in gray and all about personal horror. It is too dark for most RPG developers to do it justice--Obsidian included.

Modifié par Seagloom, 29 octobre 2011 - 12:37 .

[termokanden]

Cyberarmy wrote...

Vampire The Masquerade, Bloodlines is one of the best RPGs i have ever played.
So i say NO. For the sake of Malkavians...

Indeed. It's not that I don't like Bioware. I do. But they haven't made a game like this.

Perhaps Troika should be ressurrected to make a sequel to Bloodlines. They have already proved they knew how to get it right. This time they just need... ehm, more money and time.

Seagloom: Yeah, it gets darker than Bloodlines. I still think it had excellent writing though, and good voice acting too. The atmosphere, the writing and the voice acting were what made the game great. Game technically, it wasn't completely thought through, and the combat system wasn't particularly good.

I think the "darkest" game I've played was Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth. I never expected it to live up the the setting even half-way but it really did. The gameplay was a bit frustrating at times though. Such a shame.

Call of Cthulhu was actually the first RPG I played

Modifié par termokanden, 29 octobre 2011 - 01:43 .

[Mercannis]

VTMB (Bloodlines) is on sale for 5 euros at Steam just now. A steal at this price already gifted 3 times.