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[dreman9999]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

iakus wrote...

111987 wrote...

I think you misunderstood the point i was trying to make. I'm not saying one shouldn't be worried or suspicious until we learn more. But i don't think people should be angry, or cancelling their pre-orders (not saying iakus was saying that, but you get the point) until we learn more.

To be honest, I haven't decided yet.  But as things currently stand, mp is a strong disincentive for me to preorder.  It's simply not worth paying full pricce for a feature I'm not going to use.

I'm hoping more information will come out clarifying my concerns.  But I'm less than optimistic about that since Bioware's more in a "Trust me, it's awesome" mode than actually explaining anything.

But the thing is you buying a 50 hour+  game...Just like ME2. It just has mp with it. Your consern should not be what you don't want to play but what you want to play in the game. As long as the sp is fantasic, who cares what mode they add on the the game.

As noted earlier, the concern is that your "free' sunroof could easily leak and make the car less safe. 

Then the car dealer has to pay to repair it because it's under warrenty. That also, can be a pro to not having windows in a car at all because they can leak.

[Killjoy Cutter]

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

iakus wrote...

111987 wrote...

I think you misunderstood the point i was trying to make. I'm not saying one shouldn't be worried or suspicious until we learn more. But i don't think people should be angry, or cancelling their pre-orders (not saying iakus was saying that, but you get the point) until we learn more.

To be honest, I haven't decided yet.  But as things currently stand, mp is a strong disincentive for me to preorder.  It's simply not worth paying full pricce for a feature I'm not going to use.

I'm hoping more information will come out clarifying my concerns.  But I'm less than optimistic about that since Bioware's more in a "Trust me, it's awesome" mode than actually explaining anything.

But the thing is you buying a 50 hour+  game...Just like ME2. It just has mp with it. Your consern should not be what you don't want to play but what you want to play in the game. As long as the sp is fantasic, who cares what mode they add on the the game.

As noted earlier, the concern is that your "free' sunroof could easily leak and make the car less safe. 

Then the car dealer has to pay to repair it because it's under warrenty. That also, can be a pro to not having windows in a car at all because they can leak.

Leave it to you to abuse and twist your own analogy in order to obfuscate the actual facts of the matter.  When has a computer game designer or publisher ever given a warranty as to the quality of their product?

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 30 octobre 2011 - 05:31 .

[marshalleck]

There should be no bots because I can't co-op the single player campaign, so why should you get to solo the co-op?

Settled!

[dreman9999]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

iakus wrote...

111987 wrote...

I think you misunderstood the point i was trying to make. I'm not saying one shouldn't be worried or suspicious until we learn more. But i don't think people should be angry, or cancelling their pre-orders (not saying iakus was saying that, but you get the point) until we learn more.

To be honest, I haven't decided yet.  But as things currently stand, mp is a strong disincentive for me to preorder.  It's simply not worth paying full pricce for a feature I'm not going to use.

I'm hoping more information will come out clarifying my concerns.  But I'm less than optimistic about that since Bioware's more in a "Trust me, it's awesome" mode than actually explaining anything.

But the thing is you buying a 50 hour+  game...Just like ME2. It just has mp with it. Your consern should not be what you don't want to play but what you want to play in the game. As long as the sp is fantasic, who cares what mode they add on the the game.

As noted earlier, the concern is that your "free' sunroof could easily leak and make the car less safe. 

Then the car dealer has to pay to repair it because it's under warrenty. That also, can be a pro to not having windows in a car at all because they can leak.

Leave it to you to abuse your own analogy in order to obfuscate the actual facts of the matter.

Oh well.

I just brought that up because you yourself are warping it as well. In any case, it you don't want to be rained on, keep the sun roof close.(Meaning if you don't want the mp to effectt he sp.......Don't play it.)

Modifié par dreman9999, 30 octobre 2011 - 05:33 .

[dreman9999]

marshalleck wrote...

There should be no bots because I can't co-op the single player campaign, so why should you get to solo the co-op?

Settled!

....Your in the wrong topic....

[Iakus]

dreman9999 wrote...

iakus wrote...

111987 wrote...

I think you misunderstood the point i was trying to make. I'm not saying one shouldn't be worried or suspicious until we learn more. But i don't think people should be angry, or cancelling their pre-orders (not saying iakus was saying that, but you get the point) until we learn more.

To be honest, I haven't decided yet.  But as things currently stand, mp is a strong disincentive for me to preorder.  It's simply not worth paying full pricce for a feature I'm not going to use.

I'm hoping more information will come out clarifying my concerns.  But I'm less than optimistic about that since Bioware's more in a "Trust me, it's awesome" mode than actually explaining anything.

But the thing is you buying a 50 hour+  game...Just like ME2. It just has mp with it. Your consern should not be what you don't want to play but what you want to play in the game. As long as the sp is fantasic, who cares what mode they add on the the game.

I'd be buying a game with a feature I do not want to use and which I have doubts is as optional as is claimed.  Games are expensive.  If I'm going to pay full price I have to know that it's worth paying full price for.  Not playing the full game is already a mark against it

[Killjoy Cutter]

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Thompson family wrote...

I don't see how BW can give enough information to allay the fears expressed on this thread without giving the whole story away.

At least in my case, the concerns I have are now at the point that the story will have to be "spoiled" in order to address those concerns.  In other words, I'm not buying until after the game is out for a while and I can read the damn wiki for things that will make me regret spending my money and time on the game. 

After DA2, the deceitfulness and vagueness about multiplayer, and all the rumors about game-ruining elements in the story... that's what it's going to take. 

What? So you want to spoil the games story first in order to play it? That kinda kills the point.
Also, DA2 was made by another team....who rush the game. They have nothing to do with ME or it's production. ME3was even delay giving more time to make the game. So your consern is groundless.

Bioware is Bioware is Bioware.  Don't give me that "different team" crap.

And yes, it's better to have the game "spoiled" than it is to waste money and time on a game I won't like.  And every time Bioware says "but it's AWESOME!", that becomes more and more true.

It's not different teams crap.You can say that Swtor is going to have tps combat  because ME has it with that notion. It matter that they have different teams, because the consepts of those teams are different. Each team dicides what is being put in the game as long as the heads allow it and based on what has been put in the last 3 games, they can get away with alot.

IF you really believe that the different "teams" at Bioware make that much difference in the release dates, quality, and features of the individual games, then you're fooling yourself.  The big decisions about the direction of the games, release dates, quality targets, etc, are all just Bioware decisions.  Bioware is Bioware is Bioware.   

dreman9999 wrote...

Also, Silverman is just with marketing. He has no say over how the games are made. In short, why listen to a guy who has no say on how the game is make.

EA and thus Bioware are all about marketing over quality.  Get used to it. 

[Someone With Mass]

iakus wrote...

I'd be buying a game with a feature I do not want to use and which I have doubts is as optional as is claimed.  Games are expensive.  If I'm going to pay full price I have to know that it's worth paying full price for.  Not playing the full game is already a mark against it

Yeah, I bet the dozens and dozens of sites that were given a preview of it were in on it too.

[Killjoy Cutter]

dreman9999 wrote...

I just brought that up because you yourself are warping it as well. In any case, it you don't want to be rained on, keep the sun roof close.(Meaning if you don't want the mp to effectt he sp.......Don't play it.)

Closing the sunroof doesn't do any good if it leaks.  Of course, you're just going to keep saying "close it if it rains". 

[AdmiralCheez]

iakus wrote...

I'd be buying a game with a feature I do not want to use and which I have doubts is as optional as is claimed.  Games are expensive.  If I'm going to pay full price I have to know that it's worth paying full price for.  Not playing the full game is already a mark against it

Well, I don't plan on ever going full-on renegade, or starting a new game without importing, or romacing character X, or playing on casual, or playing as default Sheploo...

Boy I should get a discount for all the features I'm not using.

Seriously, though, $60 is pretty damn pricey, so I don't blame you for waiting the price to go down.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Someone With Mass wrote...

iakus wrote...

I'd be buying a game with a feature I do not want to use and which I have doubts is as optional as is claimed.  Games are expensive.  If I'm going to pay full price I have to know that it's worth paying full price for.  Not playing the full game is already a mark against it

Yeah, I bet the dozens and dozens of sites that were given a preview of it were in on it too.

Do you have any idea how sycophantic, ****d-out, and useless the pre-release review system is? 

[marshalleck]

dreman9999 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

There should be no bots because I can't co-op the single player campaign, so why should you get to solo the co-op?

Settled!

....Your in the wrong topic....

Holy crap, I certainly am. Darn.

[Iakus]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

iakus wrote...

I'd be buying a game with a feature I do not want to use and which I have doubts is as optional as is claimed.  Games are expensive.  If I'm going to pay full price I have to know that it's worth paying full price for.  Not playing the full game is already a mark against it

Well, I don't plan on ever going full-on renegade, or starting a new game without importing, or romacing character X, or playing on casual, or playing as default Sheploo...

Boy I should get a discount for all the features I'm not using.

Seriously, though, $60 is pretty damn pricey, so I don't blame you for waiting the price to go down.

Those are all rpg choices.  I like rpg choices.  I find it's worth the money to have them there, even if I don't end up using them all.

Multiplayer, otoh, is not worth the price.  I know because my wallet says so;)

[AdmiralCheez]

iakus wrote...

Those are all rpg choices.  I like rpg choices.  I find it's worth the money to have them there, even if I don't end up using them all.

Multiplayer, otoh, is not worth the price.  I know because my wallet says so

Eh, multiplayer's just more stuff to do for me.  I don't mind getting more stuff, so long as that stuff is moderately cool, and the original stuff is still top quality.

I'm pretty sure ME3's single-player is still going to be worth the full price, but I've still got four months to change my mind.

[Someone With Mass]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Do you have any idea how sycophantic, ****d-out, and useless the pre-release review system is? 

Good enough to get mixed responses, apparently.

[dreman9999]

iakus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

iakus wrote...

111987 wrote...

I think you misunderstood the point i was trying to make. I'm not saying one shouldn't be worried or suspicious until we learn more. But i don't think people should be angry, or cancelling their pre-orders (not saying iakus was saying that, but you get the point) until we learn more.

To be honest, I haven't decided yet.  But as things currently stand, mp is a strong disincentive for me to preorder.  It's simply not worth paying full pricce for a feature I'm not going to use.

I'm hoping more information will come out clarifying my concerns.  But I'm less than optimistic about that since Bioware's more in a "Trust me, it's awesome" mode than actually explaining anything.

But the thing is you buying a 50 hour+  game...Just like ME2. It just has mp with it. Your consern should not be what you don't want to play but what you want to play in the game. As long as the sp is fantasic, who cares what mode they add on the the game.

I'd be buying a game with a feature I do not want to use and which I have doubts is as optional as is claimed.  Games are expensive.  If I'm going to pay full price I have to know that it's worth paying full price for.  Not playing the full game is already a mark against it

Ok, then I'll bite....Where are the proof that show they are lieing about it being need in the game to get the best ending or make it easier to get the best ending?
That the very thing that make yourarguement less sound. The fact that nothing supports the fact that it is being forced on you.

[dreman9999]

iakus wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

iakus wrote...

I'd be buying a game with a feature I do not want to use and which I have doubts is as optional as is claimed.  Games are expensive.  If I'm going to pay full price I have to know that it's worth paying full price for.  Not playing the full game is already a mark against it

Well, I don't plan on ever going full-on renegade, or starting a new game without importing, or romacing character X, or playing on casual, or playing as default Sheploo...

Boy I should get a discount for all the features I'm not using.

Seriously, though, $60 is pretty damn pricey, so I don't blame you for waiting the price to go down.

Those are all rpg choices.  I like rpg choices.  I find it's worth the money to have them there, even if I don't end up using them all.

Multiplayer, otoh, is not worth the price.  I know because my wallet says so;)

Ok...It would only be a problem if you are beinf charge more for it then the normal price.

[dreman9999]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

I just brought that up because you yourself are warping it as well. In any case, it you don't want to be rained on, keep the sun roof close.(Meaning if you don't want the mp to effectt he sp.......Don't play it.)

Closing the sunroof doesn't do any good if it leaks.  Of course, you're just going to keep saying "close it if it rains". 

But that the thing....MP does not leak.

[Selene Moonsong]

 Since there are already 3-4 sticky topics discussing Multi Player aspects of the game, I hardly see a need for this one as well.

See the following:

Mass Effect 3 Single and Multiplay Demo FAQ 

New ME3 Multiplayer Hands-On reports pouring in (with Drell screen!) 

ME3: Known Features [Updated :23rd October] Now with an MP blog!  

Mass Effect 3: Galaxy at War and 4 player co-op multiplayer announced now with video and official FAQ page