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[Sgt Stryker]

3 things need to be done to fix this outfit (2 if it's a Spectre outfit, not an Alliance uniform):
1. Change the white bits on her thighs to black. This will help off-set the idea that she's wearing thigh-high boots.
2. Zip up the chest area.
3. Change the color to a dark blue, same shade as Anderson's and the other officer's uniforms. (Not needed if this is a Spectre outfit)

EDIT: Addendum: Better yet, let's get rid of the gloves and make it her Normandy outfit. Then give her something similar to Tela Vasir's armor for combat.

Modifié par Sgt Stryker, 25 novembre 2011 - 03:02 .

[jessielou]

I tried. Well, I hope that once you guys get in game that it'll either grow on you or not be as bad as you suspect. Hell, maybe you'll get lucky and they'll decide to throw in a nice potato sack alt appearance for you. Anyways, good luck to you all.

[Sgt Stryker]

Oh yeah, one other problem with her outfit. Does it have those magnetic rail things on the back to attach a rifle and sniper rifle? No? If not, she shouldn't be wearing that in combat. Also, where do the kinetic barrier generators go?

[Xeranx]

Gorosaur wrote...

Im simply saying claiming doom and gloom over a vague comment such as that is a rediculous way to think about the series. Sure, I would be disappointed and upset if Walters couldn't keep the Mass Effect races straight or the different characters backstories, but if he has trouble with the lore for a specific device, planet, or event in galactic history than why not use something like the MEWiki. He's the Lead Writer, but that doesn't mean that he should have every tiny bit of Mass Effect information ingrained into his brain. He's human.

Honestly, I'm not annoyed that he forgot details.  I'm just amazed that he went to a source separate from his own house.  It would be like asking your friend for details on an article you wrote for a story you've been following for the past six months.  Wouldn't you have your own notes to consult?  Why rely on someone else whose job it isn't to keep things straight for you?

[Gorosaur]

I doubt he didn't double check information on stuff he found there. And being a bit annoyed at this is fine, but doing the whole "rage quit/ruined forever" routine for something as minor as this is flat out dumb.

[Ghost-621]

Gorosaur wrote...

Xeranx wrote...

Gorosaur wrote...

Yes, but your point is ridiculous. Flipping out because one writer says that he checks the MEWiki for information is not the sign of a level headed fan.

If Mac actually came out and said, "I have trouble keeping track of all the Mass Effect characters, plotlines, and planets, so I use MEWiki to clear things up for me. This certainly helped me when creating the new design for Ashley." Then that would be cause for worry.

He's the LEAD writer.  True, he gets everything from Hudson first, but keep in mind that he's the first in the chain after that.  It goes down the chain from him.  What is it with you trying to diminish responsibility here?

Im simply saying claiming doom and gloom over a vague comment such as that is a rediculous way to think about the series. Sure, I would be disappointed and upset if Walters couldn't keep the Mass Effect races straight or the different characters backstories, but if he has trouble with the lore for a specific device, planet, or event in galactic history than why not use something like the MEWiki. He's the Lead Writer, but that doesn't mean that he should have every tiny bit of Mass Effect information ingrained into his brain. He's human.

You know gorosaur, if it wasn't his job to write the story, it would be different. But it's his job to have all of this down. He's not doing his job if he has to go to a fan-made website to find things he wrote. Plain and simple.

[Ghost-621]

Gorosaur wrote...

I doubt he didn't double check information on stuff he found there. And being a bit annoyed at this is fine, but doing the whole "rage quit/ruined forever" routine for something as minor as this is flat out dumb.

This isn't something minor, considering its concerning the story.

[Gorosaur]

Ghost-621 wrote...

Gorosaur wrote...

Xeranx wrote...

Gorosaur wrote...

Yes, but your point is ridiculous. Flipping out because one writer says that he checks the MEWiki for information is not the sign of a level headed fan.

If Mac actually came out and said, "I have trouble keeping track of all the Mass Effect characters, plotlines, and planets, so I use MEWiki to clear things up for me. This certainly helped me when creating the new design for Ashley." Then that would be cause for worry.

He's the LEAD writer.  True, he gets everything from Hudson first, but keep in mind that he's the first in the chain after that.  It goes down the chain from him.  What is it with you trying to diminish responsibility here?

Im simply saying claiming doom and gloom over a vague comment such as that is a rediculous way to think about the series. Sure, I would be disappointed and upset if Walters couldn't keep the Mass Effect races straight or the different characters backstories, but if he has trouble with the lore for a specific device, planet, or event in galactic history than why not use something like the MEWiki. He's the Lead Writer, but that doesn't mean that he should have every tiny bit of Mass Effect information ingrained into his brain. He's human.

You know gorosaur, if it wasn't his job to write the story, it would be different. But it's his job to have all of this down. He's not doing his job if he has to go to a fan-made website to find things he wrote. Plain and simple.

Lead Writer does not mean complete lore/info guide for the game. Its as much a managereal position as it is a writing one. To think that Mac Walters should know everything about the game universe shows a general immaturity and naivete towards the industry in general. 

Look I'm willing to jump on Bioware if they legitmatley do something wrong to jeopardize the story or ruin the game experience, but flipping out over one vague sentence in one interview is the epitome of nitpicky rage fandom.

Modifié par Gorosaur, 25 novembre 2011 - 03:17 .

[Captain_Obvious_au]

jessielou wrote...

 I really should just let this go since it's starting to feel like trying to talk my apt into cleaning itself, but...



This is not an overly revealing outfit.  No, it's not heavy armor but it's also not a catsuit.  I don't think it's anywhere near as skimpy as Miranda's outfit.  I don't think it's even as revealing as light armor in ME1, those things looked like spandex to me.  Maybe she could stand to pull that zipper up a bit, but maybe it's a little warm on the Normandy.

To make a couple of points here:
1. Why would Bioware completely change what Ash wears from ME1 & ME2, to ME3? It doesn't make sense, unless ala Shepard she's changed her class...

2. Are we 100% sure that's her regular combat outfit?

EDIT: just watched the CE unboxing video, seems to be her normal outfit. That's just...moronic beyond belief *sigh*
EDIT2: boob window? Come on, even Miranda is classier than that!

Modifié par Captain_Obvious_au, 25 novembre 2011 - 03:27 .

[DoNotIngest]

Thread That Got Long Fast is a Thread That Got Long Fast.



You guise better hope that a cutscene doesn't roll around and a Cerberus baddie pops one right in Ash's boob-window. Then yall'll be bawlin' and deciding whether or not all the pervin' moments that bewb window afforded were really worth Ash's lungs being shredded.

[Ziggy]

Is it definitely a boob window?

I thought there was still hope it was the specter logo or something. I can't believe bioware would be that silly.

[CerberusWarrior]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

3 things need to be done to fix this outfit (2 if it's a Spectre outfit, not an Alliance uniform):
1. Change the white bits on her thighs to black. This will help off-set the idea that she's wearing thigh-high boots.
2. Zip up the chest area.
3. Change the color to a dark blue, same shade as Anderson's and the other officer's uniforms. (Not needed if this is a Spectre outfit)

EDIT: Addendum: Better yet, let's get rid of the gloves and make it her Normandy outfit. Then give her something similar to Tela Vasir's armor for combat.

   


I disagree with those changes ideas and hopes Bioware design her how they see fit

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

Sylvianus wrote...

But, what counts is her personality, the writting, that's there the most important.

I completely agree with this... 

HOWEVER, personality is at least somewhat linked to how the characters look.

[Captain_Obvious_au]

Definitely a boob window, see here

[Sgt Stryker]

CerberusWarrior wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

3 things need to be done to fix this outfit (2 if it's a Spectre outfit, not an Alliance uniform):
1. Change the white bits on her thighs to black. This will help off-set the idea that she's wearing thigh-high boots.
2. Zip up the chest area.
3. Change the color to a dark blue, same shade as Anderson's and the other officer's uniforms. (Not needed if this is a Spectre outfit)

EDIT: Addendum: Better yet, let's get rid of the gloves and make it her Normandy outfit. Then give her something similar to Tela Vasir's armor for combat.

   


I disagree with those changes ideas and hopes Bioware design her how they see fit

At least my suggestions make sense within the context of the universe.

[Xeranx]

jreezy wrote...

You know what's funny? People confusing the outfit she wearing in that scene with Shepard as armor. BSN, you so funny.

I'm thinking you're being heavily sarcastic throughout this post, but just in case you aren't:


And in case that one goes down (from another thread here on the boards):



I'm trying to find the source since that will stay up...well it's more likely to stay up.

[Iakus]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

3 things need to be done to fix this outfit (2 if it's a Spectre outfit, not an Alliance uniform):
1. Change the white bits on her thighs to black. This will help off-set the idea that she's wearing thigh-high boots.
2. Zip up the chest area.
3. Change the color to a dark blue, same shade as Anderson's and the other officer's uniforms. (Not needed if this is a Spectre outfit)

EDIT: Addendum: Better yet, let's get rid of the gloves and make it her Normandy outfit. Then give her something similar to Tela Vasir's armor for combat.

1) agreed.  The white also has a very unfortunate tendancy to look like underwear.  Though in addition, I'd also lower to the boots to calf level.  

2) Definitely.  Compare her collar to that of Anderson or any other Alliance soldier.  Even if it's not Samara-bad, it's still very unprofessional-looking.

3) Also inclined to agree, though a lower priority.  The color scheme of the outfit makers her look more like she's wearing a costume than a uniform.  

[Iakus]

jreezy wrote...

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

2. Are we 100% sure that's her regular combat outfit?

Nope. 100% assumptions

Reasonable assumption, though.  We've yet to see her in anything else.  Including this as of yet hypothetical armor. And we've seen her carrying weapons in this "unarmored" look, including a recent screenshot which showed both Shepard and Liara in full armor and Ash in that...outfit...

[CerberusWarrior]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

CerberusWarrior wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

3 things need to be done to fix this outfit (2 if it's a Spectre outfit, not an Alliance uniform):
1. Change the white bits on her thighs to black. This will help off-set the idea that she's wearing thigh-high boots.
2. Zip up the chest area.
3. Change the color to a dark blue, same shade as Anderson's and the other officer's uniforms. (Not needed if this is a Spectre outfit)

EDIT: Addendum: Better yet, let's get rid of the gloves and make it her Normandy outfit. Then give her something similar to Tela Vasir's armor for combat.

   


I disagree with those changes ideas and hopes Bioware design her how they see fit

At least my suggestions make sense within the context of the universe.

   



Oh thats right a woman can't look sexy and be a kick ass character in games she has to be covered up and have no sex appeal at all .  people like you have a choice either to buy the game or not . but one thing in gaming needs to change and thats the idea that some can force or demand changes made to a game based on their displeasure of said content . 

[Sgt Stryker]

It's not a question of sex appeal; it's a question of lore consistency. I ask once again:
1. How does she accommodate a full-face helmet for combat in hazardous environments?
2. Where are the light-up rails on the back that her assault rifle and sniper rifle would attach to when she holsters them?
3. Where do the kinetic barrier emitters go?
4. Where is the power generator for said kinetic barrier emitters?
5. Where is the sealed underlayer with ablative ceramic plates attached over areas that don't need flexibility?
And the big one: Why the hell is part of her chest exposed on the 2 right-most concept art pictures?

Modifié par Sgt Stryker, 25 novembre 2011 - 04:08 .

[Iakus]

jessielou wrote...

 I really should just let this go since it's starting to feel like trying to talk my apt into cleaning itself, but...



This is not an overly revealing outfit.  No, it's not heavy armor but it's also not a catsuit.  I don't think it's anywhere near as skimpy as Miranda's outfit.  I don't think it's even as revealing as light armor in ME1, those things looked like spandex to me.  Maybe she could stand to pull that zipper up a bit, but maybe it's a little warm on the Normandy.

I'm not going to spoil anything, just gonna say, that scene is not on the Normandy.

Seeing Ash standing next to another female Alliance officer really drives home how unprofessional and silly Ash's costume really is to me.  No it's not really skimpy.  It's not Miranda-bad, or Samara-bad.  But those two set the bar really low anyway.  For an Alliance officer, and second human SPectre, I'd expect something that carries a little more weight, a bit more authority.  

I've ponted out why in other posts:  thigh-high boots.  White pants on a primarilly blue-black outfit.  V-neck.  Skirt-like blouse-jacket.  It's ugly on so many levels.  It's a shame to see it on such a beautiful character.