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#576
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I reserve judgement on Ash's face until I see something polished (dislike the redesign)....


but hoooo lawwwwwwdsss.

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Celestina wrote...

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*shudders*

Image to the left does look shopped (eyelashes/shadows were lighter ingame, as I recall), but right one... someone pass the brain bleach, please, I'm going with "Space mushrooms" Ashley.

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My version of the explanation (version 2.00) is that as a SPECTRE Ash has been assigned with a top-secret mission concerning rallying people capable of researching and help eradicating the reapers. But she can't just disappear without people noticing, so she has her secretly "replaced" by a clone which poorly resembles her because it was created in such a short notice.... :P


So, there you have it... my version now not only explains why she looks and dresses different but why she also "acts" different to man she supposedly loved... it's because of the genetic mutation of her 'clone'... it was near perfect except the genetic code went slightly off target which made the clone-ash addicted to plastic surgery, botox and allergic to clothes. :whistle: And unfortunately her genetic code got scrambled such that her secret ambition (after ME2) turned from starting a family with (romanced) Shepard to shooting him... so no wonder she jumped at it in Udina's words... <_<

Nuff said!!

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Celestina wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

1 - The first on the left isn't from the game but a fanart.

2 - you take a beautiful pic on the left and the worse on the right, about a demo leaked, and not at all polished.



I didn't make the comparison pic. I saw it on reddit a couple of days ago.

Besides, even with her eyes crossed, she's still better looking than the new model.

Err.... . well ( :P ), that's your opinion and that's fine. I'll leave it at that.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 25 novembre 2011 - 10:06 .


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She looks better in ME 3 . some on here will never be happy unless games are made to their rules . while in real life women wear clothes like that and have sex appeal oh but thats right some on here want to dictate their vision for the game to Bioware . Last I checked Bioware created her and can do with her as they see fit . either deal with it not buy the game

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CerberusWarrior wrote...

She looks better in ME 3 . some on here will never be happy unless games are made to their rules . while in real life women wear clothes like that and have sex appeal oh but thats right some on here want to dictate their vision for the game to Bioware . Last I checked Bioware created her and can do with her as they see fit . either deal with it not buy the game


You must be living on Mars, because I have never seen a normal woman dress up like that without getting paid for it.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 25 novembre 2011 - 10:10 .


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In real life, you say? You mean like these marines?
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Seriously bro, stop trolling. You're not convincing anyone.

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Irrelevant anyway, since the real question is, "Would a military woman dress that way in combat - especially when she has already openly mocked impracticality?"

The answer is "no."

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Random Nobody wrote...

Irrelevant anyway, since the real question is, "Would a military woman dress that way in combat - especially when she has already openly mocked impracticality?"

The answer is "no."


Yep.

I think she said that she was against miniskirts in ME1 unless someone bought her dinner.

Something like that.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

CerberusWarrior wrote...

She looks better in ME 3 . some on here will never be happy unless games are made to their rules . while in real life women wear clothes like that and have sex appeal oh but thats right some on here want to dictate their vision for the game to Bioware . Last I checked Bioware created her and can do with her as they see fit . either deal with it not buy the game


You must be living on Mars, because I have never seen a normal woman dress up like that without getting paid for it.

   



Oh please the stupidity in your comment is rather laughable.  But I and man

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Random Nobody wrote...

Irrelevant anyway, since the real question is, "Would a military woman dress that way in combat - especially when she has already openly mocked impracticality?"

The answer is "no."


Yep.

I think she said that she was against miniskirts in ME1 unless someone bought her dinner.

Something like that.


"Yeah, well if you want me in a tin foil mini skirt and thigh-high boots, I'm gonna need dinner first... Uh... sir... "

Well, the jacket is only reminiscient of a miniskirt, but those are definitely thigh-high boots.

Seriously, what were they thinking? Image IPB

Modifié par iakus, 25 novembre 2011 - 10:21 .


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iakus wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Random Nobody wrote...

Irrelevant anyway, since the real question is, "Would a military woman dress that way in combat - especially when she has already openly mocked impracticality?"

The answer is "no."


Yep.

I think she said that she was against miniskirts in ME1 unless someone bought her dinner.

Something like that.


Yeah, well if you want me in a tin foil mini skirt and thigh-high boots, I'm gonna need dinner first... Uh... sir...

Well, the jacket is only reminiscient of a miniskirt, but those are definitely thigh-high boots.

Seriously, what were they thinking? Image IPB


They were thinking of the logic known as 'sex sells'

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...Yeah, maybe if she looked more like sex and less like a gorilla in face paint.

Seriously, we already have one ape enough on the team.

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CerberusWarrior wrote...
Oh please the stupidity in your comment is rather laughable.  But I and man


Wow. That's a great comeback.

Just one step up from what I hear from my little brothers when one of them is telling the other to shut up.

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"But I and man."

Still trying to figure that out.

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Guys I can live with a lot of these changes. Sure she looked awesome before with a hint of Latino (I swear the character has latino origins) to a more European look. This doesn't really offend me.

Sure it sends a worrying message that you're only pretty if you look European, but this thread is a little silly. The only thing that bothers me is that before she was wearing appropriate battle gear, now she doesn't.

Catsuit, high heels and long hair are not appropriate battle wear! This is not a question of sexism nor is it a question of a christian being uptight on his values (if I were that, I'd never touch Mass Effect for it's many killings and a sex scene with an alien). This is simply because the hair gets in the way, the catsuit makes it hard to breathe, and the heels makes it hard to run. Furthermore, I'd like to see some armour in battle! You can dress in a catsuit off the battlefield, but you better be wearing some armour!!!!

In battle!
Tied or short hair!
Armour!
Flat heels!

Of the battlefield. Whatever you like.

Modifié par Abraham_uk, 25 novembre 2011 - 10:28 .


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IIRC, the devs said she's of mixed, mostly Latina origin.

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Sgt Stryker wrote...

In real life, you say? You mean like these marines?
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Like that picture above. Tied hair, flat heels and armour!!!

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I hate this 'sex sells' thing, woman always must be sexy like new out of the hospital (Botox ect.) Even if the fanbase screams "this is bull****!", but somebody thinks they get much more sells, so what?

Srly, why was a buttshot on miranda needed? it was so muche of a facepalm, but no, we need somebody like that in the game. Right? Even when no woman ever dress like that. And especial not if they are under attack of Big-Evil-Reapers.

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mineralica wrote...

Celestina wrote...

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*shudders*

Image to the left does look shopped (eyelashes/shadows were lighter ingame, as I recall), but right one... someone pass the brain bleach, please, I'm going with "Space mushrooms" Ashley.


I can live with both. But actually, new Ashley looks a bit ... pale. Also I think her nose got adjusted a bit (nose bridge) plus her eyebrows are not that dark anymore.
Someone tried to get rid of the "hispanic" touch of Ashley. And that's a sad thing, since it defines her looks greatly.

Overall - new Ashley looks beautiful, but lacks some details that made Ashley "authentic". I just hope they'll fix her face to make it looking more like old Ashley than like it does look now.


THEN again:

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Either this picture got edited OR this Ashley is far closer to original Ashley than the one shown in the direct comparison.

Modifié par CptData, 25 novembre 2011 - 11:19 .


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Abraham_uk wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

In real life, you say? You mean like these marines?
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Like that picture above. Tied hair, flat heels and armour!!!


Will you all stop your incessant crying and moaning over this? This isn't even an issue.....if someone showed you a picture of those same three Marines in civilian clothing, with their hair down and some make-up on you wouldn't even be able to tell they are the same people.

So Ashley let her hair down and put some make-up on.....so what? What's the problem? Normally the hair may be a problem in combat but this game is well over 150 years in the future and deals with far more advanced technology so today's rules don't have to apply at all....there can be an explanation and adaptation to any present issue.

And you're talking about an alternate outfit....don't like it don't use it.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Anyway, I FINALLY figured out what bugs me about the "new" Ash.

It's the goddamn eyebrows, man.  They must have been overtweaked when they gave her a new skin texture.

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EDIT: You think you're clever, Photobucket, but you're not.


This was posted in the official Ashley thread.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

Will you all stop your incessant crying and moaning over this? This isn't even an issue.....if someone showed you a picture of those same three Marines in civilian clothing, with their hair down and some make-up on you wouldn't even be able to tell they are the same people.


That argument would be valid if Ashley was actually wearing civilian clothes. She's not. Note the Spectre logo.

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Where on earth do some people get these ideas that women are some gestalt entity that all wear heels and miniskirts all day, all the time? There are women like that, sure, good for them. There are also women who wear other things, because they aren't a hive mind, they are individuals. Ashley gave a very strong impression of not concerned with her sex appeal. That was one of the things I liked about her, actually.

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Sgt Stryker wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Will you all stop your incessant crying and moaning over this? This isn't even an issue.....if someone showed you a picture of those same three Marines in civilian clothing, with their hair down and some make-up on you wouldn't even be able to tell they are the same people.


That argument would be valid if Ashley was actually wearing civilian clothes. She's not. Note the Spectre logo.


Ashley is wearing her "official SPECTRE off duty dress".
No need to have heavy armor while visiting Shepard in jail. Besides that, the combat dress of those three marines won't deflect a bullet. :?


Lozark wrote...

Where on earth do some people get these
ideas that women are some gestalt entity that all wear heels and
miniskirts all day, all the time? There are women like that, sure, good
for them. There are also women who wear other things, because they
aren't a hive mind, they are individuals. Ashley gave a very strong
impression of not concerned with her sex appeal. That was one of the
things I liked about her, actually.


Indeed. However, I consider her "off duty uniform" not as something that's boosting her "sex appeal". No huge décolleté, no "DAT ASS". Just a more or less functional uniform that's only flawed by those "white panties". Besides that, Ashley isn't "overboosted" sexy. Still looks quite authentic, except "open hair" doesn't work in combat. Heard you can give her a different appearance for combat - maybe she'll have her bun back then.

Modifié par CptData, 25 novembre 2011 - 11:32 .