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[mineralica]

I'm rather surprised by the fact that this outfit is called "sleek outfit for officer". Alliance forces their people to wear thigh-high boots and mismatching skin tight pants... well, Cerberus forces their officers to wear catsuits... future is strange place.

[Olive Oomph]

prussian officer... that sl*t

[who would know]

At this point I feel like I'd be shouting into the wind, so instead I'll just compile my favorite moments from previous pages (feel free to skip the CerberusWarrior text):

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

CerberusWarrior wrote...
Yes it is you can hide behind anything to cover up the fact its not that . Its clear some on here does not want her to have any sex appeal at all . Oh look a woman with sex appeal but is a good character thats something that we need squash and get changed because our stupid lore thing is messed up .  I do not give a crap abouit lore when it comes to a group that want to basically enforce their views of  all women should be covered up when it comes to a game is wrong because this is clearly showing that there are those who feel all women in games should have no sex appeal . when in real life women on tv especially when it comes to the news and tv shows as well as movies have no problem with showing some skin .  Games should reflect how women dress and act in real life .

It has absolutely nothing to do with thinking "all women should be covered up" and enforcing a silly view like that on anyone. IT'S ABOUT HER CHARACTER.

Besides,

She ALREADY had sex appeal man!

She looked great in armor and her constant teasing and just her attitude in general had major sex appeal. I think you're just a fan of more skin, no matter the cost. That cost being character assassination.

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

mineralica wrote...

Celestina wrote...

*shudders*

Image to the left does look shopped (eyelashes/shadows were lighter ingame, as I recall), but right one... someone pass the brain bleach, please, I'm going with "Space mushrooms" Ashley.

My avatar was taken straight from the game with my camera...

still looks way better.

Someone With Mass wrote...

CerberusWarrior wrote...
She looks better in ME 3 . some on here will never be happy unless games are made to their rules . while in real life women wear clothes like that and have sex appeal oh but thats right some on here want to dictate their vision for the game to Bioware . Last I checked Bioware created her and can do with her as they see fit . either deal with it not buy the game

You must be living on Mars, because I have never seen a normal woman dress up like that without getting paid for it.

Modifié par who would know, 27 novembre 2011 - 01:53 .

[Merchant2006]

Wannabe_Overlord wrote...

Looking at a comparison video on youtube, to see what the characters are like since I wasn't around for ME1 and see no point in finishing ME2 since ME3 apparantly is getting a comic for choices, and I noticed that in ME1 and ME2 that Ashley looks like a strong independent military woman but in ME3 she looks like she got implants and botox injected in her face with excess make-up. Also.... Is she really wearing a Tight Suit and heels? Why did she drop the Heavy Armor look? I thought she was supposed to be a Soldier class. You know, like default Sheperd who has pretty bulky armor.

Is there a Lore or Game reason why she looks so drastically different in ME3 while all the other returning characters generally look the same as they always have?

Because this isn't 2007. It's 2011 and game engines / visuals / appearances / redesigns are all the norm these days.

[Aurora313]

and god forbid that people remember that there is both a distinct different in lighting for those two shots and that the Beta hasn't even been completed yet?

[who would know]

[Aurora313]

@ Who
I don't support genetic engineering , nor do I like that kind of thing<_<...

I'd rather stare at Shepaloo's abs 

Modifié par Aurora313, 27 novembre 2011 - 02:00 .

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

Hellbound555 wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

arent we all being a bit over-critical? I mean none of us have even played the game yet. Aren't we jumping the gun by saying she is and isn't this or that just because of how she looks? Don't you all understand how shallow that is?
I've always hated Ashley but nobody deserves this.

For the five-millionth time, it would be different had she not said everything contrary to what she is wearing in ME3.

maybe you should ask her about that when the game actually comes out.:innocent:

Maybe I shouldn't waste my money, because it always speaks volumes about how it goes against her character.

So you'd rather be bitter and resentful than figure out what happened in those 2 years, or even not consider Casey Hudson's tweet about how Ashley has full battle armor like Shepard's?

Some fan you turned out to be.

So, you'd rather just be a blind sheep and follow everything the devs say, no questions asked? 

Rather than, ya know... let them know how you feel about certain things, so that hopefully change could happen or at least some tweaking before the game comes out? NAH, who would wanna do that.... JUST ACCEPT EVERYTHING THEY DO! 

OMG GOTY! <_<

[who would know]

I'm starting to like you, Sgt Reed. ^_~

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

XavierHollywood wrote...

By plenty of people you mean a handfull of the vast majority of players, right?  Im willing to bet the great majority of fans have no problem with it at all.  Cant please everyone.  Certainly not those that will cry at the slightest deviation of what they have constructed in their mind already.  As for me being a blind idiot, it is just your opinion.  You being a whiner, however, is fact.  You've gone to great lengths to prove it so (go ahead and use that line back to me about me proving to be a blind idiot, you know you want to). 

Heck I didnt even notice the clevage the first time I looked at the pics (maybe that further supports your blind argument lol).  And really, if a little bit of clevage constitutes as skanky to you then im sorry Ash's wardrobe dosent adhere to your deep rooted puritan dress code.  We'll get the bioware graphical team to consult you before making any future designs.

and you and i will both just have to suffer through the poor spelling and grammar.  Keyboard is busted.  Doing what I can here with the onscreen key pad.

Probably b/c they don't give a rat's ass about the character? Therefore, they couldn't care less what happens to said character. They will also not notice changes to said character's facial features OR that fact that an outfit like that goes completely against said character's views. So of course, the majority will just go with it like it's no big deal.

That's no reason for Bioware to just roll with what they have b/c the majority doesn't care. This majority that doesn't care, also wouldn't care if she was dressed more appropriately and stayed to true to her character. The difference is... the fans of that character would. 

So why not please the fans of that character since the others won't care either way? 

Edit: Then again... that would be using logic. *facepalm* I shoulda known better...

Modifié par xxSgt_Reed_24xx, 27 novembre 2011 - 02:21 .

[Merchant2006]

who would know wrote...

Thank you.

[Someone With Mass]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

So, you'd rather just be a blind sheep and follow everything the devs say, no questions asked? 

Rather than, ya know... let them know how you feel about certain things, so that hopefully change could happen or at least some tweaking before the game comes out? NAH, who would wanna do that.... JUST ACCEPT EVERYTHING THEY DO! 

OMG GOTY! <_<

What says that they don't know, exactly?

[Sgt Stryker]

mineralica wrote...

I'm rather surprised by the fact that this outfit is called "sleek outfit for officer". Alliance forces their people to wear thigh-high boots and mismatching skin tight pants... well, Cerberus forces their officers to wear catsuits... future is strange place.

Clarification: I believe that is actually a Spectre "dress uniform", and the whole "stylish officer outfit" is a misnomer. Apparently this is what human female (and asari, I guess?) Spectres wear when their mission doesn't involve blowing sh*t up. If this is an officially-mandated uniform, I have to question the Council's sense. But really, did you expect better from The Three Stooges?

On the other hand, if Spectres have some leeway in deciding what they wear out of combat, and Ashley chose this thing, I have to instead question Ashley's sense. Then again, this is the same person who believed Collectors were working with Cerberus.

...Did the entire galaxy suffer a pandemic of mental illness in 2185?

[SpockLives]

I am less concerned with Ashley's new uniform (although I hate her catsuit) than her new plastic surgery face.  Seriously, that is not a lighting issue.  That is a whole different facial structure.  It makes me want to vomit.

www.gameranx.com/img/11-Nov/yrc7j.jpeg

That picture shows two different faces.  No amount of makeup and lighting can make that much of a difference.  Only plastic surgery gone horribly wrong.  If I saw those pictures out of context, I would think they were two different people.  Please fix Ashley's face, Bioware.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

SpockLives wrote...

I am less concerned with Ashley's new uniform (although I hate her catsuit) than her new plastic surgery face.  Seriously, that is not a lighting issue.  That is a whole different facial structure.  It makes me want to vomit.

www.gameranx.com/img/11-Nov/yrc7j.jpeg

That picture shows two different faces.  No amount of makeup and lighting can make that much of a difference.  Only plastic surgery gone horribly wrong.  If I saw those pictures out of context, I would think they were two different people.  Please fix Ashley's face, Bioware.

Well she is showing some type of emotion in the second picture (like anger or something) .... but the problem is... 

completely different eyebrows, different eye shape, and slight tweaks to the facial structure. What would have been so bad about using her ME2 model (unchanged) and then putting her hair down and changing the makeup? Would have been change enough IMO. Right now, looks like she's been botox'd up. 

[XavierHollywood]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

XavierHollywood wrote...

By plenty of people you mean a handfull of the vast majority of players, right?  Im willing to bet the great majority of fans have no problem with it at all.  Cant please everyone.  Certainly not those that will cry at the slightest deviation of what they have constructed in their mind already.  As for me being a blind idiot, it is just your opinion.  You being a whiner, however, is fact.  You've gone to great lengths to prove it so (go ahead and use that line back to me about me proving to be a blind idiot, you know you want to). 

Heck I didnt even notice the clevage the first time I looked at the pics (maybe that further supports your blind argument lol).  And really, if a little bit of clevage constitutes as skanky to you then im sorry Ash's wardrobe dosent adhere to your deep rooted puritan dress code.  We'll get the bioware graphical team to consult you before making any future designs.

and you and i will both just have to suffer through the poor spelling and grammar.  Keyboard is busted.  Doing what I can here with the onscreen key pad.

Probably b/c they don't give a rat's ass about the character? Therefore, they couldn't care less what happens to said character. They will also not notice changes to said character's facial features OR that fact that an outfit like that goes completely against said character's views. So of course, the majority will just go with it like it's no big deal.

That's no reason for Bioware to just roll with what they have b/c the majority doesn't care. This majority that doesn't care, also wouldn't care if she was dressed more appropriately and stayed to true to her character. The difference is... the fans of that character would. 

So why not please the fans of that character since the others won't care either way? 

Edit: Then again... that would be using logic. *facepalm* I shoulda known better...

Im a massive fan of Ashley's.  Of all my ME1 playthroughs I never once Virmired her.  That being said, im not going to get my panties in a bunch over something so inconsequential.  They still look exactly the same.  screenshot comparison really isnt valid because on one had you have a doctored idealic view of her and the other was simply a bad snapshot of her.  We've all been there, a photo is taken of us that we arent ready for and when you look back at it you're like 'the hell!? DELETE!'

I saw the beta vid and I have no complaints about her apperance.  Once everyone sees her in full battle armor I think we will see a major drop in complaints of her apperance.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

XavierHollywood wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

XavierHollywood wrote...

By plenty of people you mean a handfull of the vast majority of players, right?  Im willing to bet the great majority of fans have no problem with it at all.  Cant please everyone.  Certainly not those that will cry at the slightest deviation of what they have constructed in their mind already.  As for me being a blind idiot, it is just your opinion.  You being a whiner, however, is fact.  You've gone to great lengths to prove it so (go ahead and use that line back to me about me proving to be a blind idiot, you know you want to). 

Heck I didnt even notice the clevage the first time I looked at the pics (maybe that further supports your blind argument lol).  And really, if a little bit of clevage constitutes as skanky to you then im sorry Ash's wardrobe dosent adhere to your deep rooted puritan dress code.  We'll get the bioware graphical team to consult you before making any future designs.

and you and i will both just have to suffer through the poor spelling and grammar.  Keyboard is busted.  Doing what I can here with the onscreen key pad.

Probably b/c they don't give a rat's ass about the character? Therefore, they couldn't care less what happens to said character. They will also not notice changes to said character's facial features OR that fact that an outfit like that goes completely against said character's views. So of course, the majority will just go with it like it's no big deal.

That's no reason for Bioware to just roll with what they have b/c the majority doesn't care. This majority that doesn't care, also wouldn't care if she was dressed more appropriately and stayed to true to her character. The difference is... the fans of that character would. 

So why not please the fans of that character since the others won't care either way? 

Edit: Then again... that would be using logic. *facepalm* I shoulda known better...

Im a massive fan of Ashley's.  Of all my ME1 playthroughs I never once Virmired her.  That being said, im not going to get my panties in a bunch over something so inconsequential.  They still look exactly the same.  screenshot comparison really isnt valid because on one had you have a doctored idealic view of her and the other was simply a bad snapshot of her.  We've all been there, a photo is taken of us that we arent ready for and when you look back at it you're like 'the hell!? DELETE!'

I saw the beta vid and I have no complaints about her apperance.  Once everyone sees her in full battle armor I think we will see a major drop in complaints of her apperance.

Problem is... she doesn't look "exactly the same" .... 

even though she's making a face in that screenshot comparison. Two things are noticable for sure. Her eyebrows have a completely different shape (a more smooth and less aggressive looking brow) and the shape of her eyes are different (they are now bigger and more rounded). 

I don't mind the hair being down... but there was no need to change her facial features. Add that to a ridiculous looking outfit and it's just.... ugh.

Modifié par xxSgt_Reed_24xx, 27 novembre 2011 - 05:49 .

[Wulfram]

ME3 Ashley's eyebrows look a bit wierd

Modifié par Wulfram, 27 novembre 2011 - 05:50 .

[Someone With Mass]

Wulfram wrote...

ME3 Ashley's eyebrows look a bit wierd

Looks like she has dyed her eyebrows.

[CptData]

Nashiktal wrote...

I don't know cpt, if batman started wearing bright yellow colors and boxers for arkham city,, and that is the only thing we have been seeing him wear, (outside his pink shirtless outfit offered in preorder) then of course people will be upset. Even if he the fans were told that he would wear his normal black suit while on missions it seems like a radical change for batman as a character to do.

The tweet about Ashley having armor (the one that finally clarifies that what we have seen is only "casual wear" that she can bring into combat apparently, does that mean shep can bring tuxedo into combat?) is very recent and even then it still does not show us what she looks like in armor.

I have more faith now of course, but it wont sway those who hate the new look, and coupled with the fact these changes happen after ashley's writer had left... Well people are legitimately worried.

I can hear you - and I concur.

But Ashley is not Batman. Batman -is- defined by his dark costume. Although his outfit had to undergo several reviews - if you would take a Batman fan of the original series to today, he wouldn't like that new outfit. Because it comes out of nowhere. Transition missing.

Ashley's new look comes out of nowhere. There's no transition between ME-Ashley and ME3-Ashley - she simply got another look, that, according to a lot of fans, changed her character as well. I'm okay with first part - it could have helped to show some kind of transition from one look to another.
Also Ashley's character is -not- defined by her appearance. She's still a tough soldier - but one that's off duty. She's also no longer in regular chain of command (Spectre) and therefore is not restricted to regulations about uniform and hair. Mayb Ashley always wanted to have her hair open but since she always was in duty on the Normandy SR1, she never was allowed to have her hair open.

We simply don't know. Maybe Shepard can ask Ashley at some point why see changed her style. I hope BW will give us that chance, and I'll ask her. If it makes sense, I'm perfectly fine with that. If it's totally OOC, I don't know how much it will change my opinion of Ashley - especially if Ash still acts like I'm used to.
ME3 isn't here now. I'm looking forward and hope Ashley will be the very same Ashley I loved as a character in ME. If yes, everything will be fine ...

[DoNotIngest]

Merchant2006 wrote...

who would know wrote...

Thank you.

Ah. A call to a good 'ol game of Asswars?



Challenge accepted.

[TheRealJayDee]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

This majority that doesn't care, also wouldn't care if she was dressed more appropriately and stayed to true to her character. The difference is... the fans of that character would. 

So why not please the fans of that character since the others won't care either way?

Don't you start asking questions that make too much sense. Seriously...

Modifié par TheRealJayDee, 27 novembre 2011 - 06:09 .

[tmp7704]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

completely different eyebrows, different eye shape, and slight tweaks to the facial structure.

The facial structure looks pretty much intact to me. Regarding the eyebrow and eye shape, given how they're quite different on the alternative outfit screenshot, i'd be inclined to think that what is shown on the picture in the thread here is a beta glitch -- it's not like Ashley couldn't look quite different in the previous games, too, when things bugged out:

http://t2.gstatic.co...RM-Gv2U6hf6ngZY

Ignore her being cross-eyed for a second and note the eye shape.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

CptData wrote...


Also Ashley's character is -not- defined by her appearance. She's still a tough soldier - but one that's off duty. She's also no longer in regular chain of command (Spectre) and therefore is not restricted to regulations about uniform and hair. Mayb Ashley always wanted to have her hair open but since she always was in duty on the Normandy SR1, she never was allowed to have her hair open.

We don't know that though.... and with a complete 180 done on her looks, who's to say that she is still the same Ashley? And that's the point we're, or at least I, am trying to get across. Trying to get the devs to hear and see that we want Ashley to act the same... and not like some space bimbo. Looks don't necessarily define a character, but in a visual medium like video games, they are meant to make you think certain things about the character. Like I've said before... what do you think of when you look at a character like Zaeed? You think badass. Look at Ashley in ME3... you don't think badass, at least not from that ... thing... she's wearing.