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[Nashiktal]

ADLegend21 wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

The hair bun probably isn't even her choice. More likely she wears it because of Alliance regulations and it's easier to fit a helmet over that.

If it's alliance regulations, then they apparently don't apply to FemShep

Indeed, but isn't there only one hair style for femshep that evens pushes the boundry though?

The new outfit just doesn't look all that sexy to me. That black concept art outfit looks the best out of all that I have seen, but I still roll my eyes at the damn boob window. When will bioware understand that you can be sexy and not be showing off your assets?

Dude she has MORE coverage in this outfit than her shirt and cargo pants from ME1. Her shirt and cargo pants were made of fabric, the new outfit has armor padding on it and covers her arms and hands.It's full body not a space bikini! soetimes I think the outfit hater just need something to whine about.

Thats nice and all but when did I ever complain about skin showing? I was talking about how the suit is so skin tight she has a wedgie just like Miranda does, only instead of being some sort of cloth like miranda's outfit her's looks to be some sort of rubber or leather outfit. ASSETS DO NOT EQUAL SKIN WAKKA WAKKA. I think you are just trying to find something to argue about with me, or at least that is what I am seeing from the insults.


And that bit about whining? Nice. You are not actually interested in debate or conversation at all are you? If you don't want to talk about it feel free to leave the thread.

StephanieBengal wrote...

Very interesting, guess it just
shows how people's mindsets and outlooks are vastly different. Because
as a female, I'm really not bothered at all with Ashley's look or
uniform. Yes, she's slightly more "dolled up" I suppose but it isn't
nearly as blatant as certain characters appearances.

But whatever, to each their own.

One could argue that was the "theme" of
ashleys character. She didn't need to be dolled up or "blatant" (or
alternatively shocking) as the other characters to stand out or even be
attractive if that is the rout you want to take with her. Down to earth,
heavy armor, and big gun.

A casual outfit is one thing but the
outfit itself is supposed to be a uniform of some kind. I just don't
like it, its too gaudy in my opinion. We already have tali, jack, liara,
kasumi, samara, and miranda to do all the showboating

Modifié par Nashiktal, 09 décembre 2011 - 03:19 .

[Nashiktal]

BentOrgy wrote...

Boobs sell.

But seriously, I'm only going to pop my head in here, then probably run away before I, like so many others, get set on fire;

We may not know the "Story," reasons behind her new look, but from where we came from in ME1, Ash definitely wasn't the type to bounce around in a cute little jacket and thigh high boots. She also didn't strike me as the type to wear "Armor padding," while still showing her cleavage.

http://img3.imagesha...6/ashleyme3.jpg

She's your typical "Woman in a man's world," tomboy character, with a love for poetry thrown in for spice, and she her self famously says that she prefers thick armor with a big gun; this is why so many of us raged when we saw her "Outfit." Because at the time (And even now.) we haven't been given any logical, story based reason to believe this isn't a character crisis.

Add to the mix, that many Bioware fans have become increasingly worried with the company's new "Direction." I.E, trying to cater to people who think coming in on the THIRD title of a TRILOGY is a GOOD thing, the shoddy and linear way they handled so many of ME2's story related material (Horizon, Cerberus, the Collectors, the list goes on.) and such.

And there you'll have found several reasons why we "Haters," are "Hating." When really, all most of us are doing is voicing concern over a story many of us have grown attached to. (I say most, because unfortunately, there are many more it seems that are brainless consumers who DO just want to pick a fight.)

Thank you, that last bit especially. You forgot to add whiners to the list though.

[Nashiktal]

jreezy wrote...

Lozark wrote...

Eh, so Jack's not a perfect example. Substitute her mention with Rachel from Ninja Gaiden or Ivy from Soul Calibur.

They'd look ugly with that hair as well.

To be fair just transplanting miranda's head on someones head would make anyone look ugly mostly because the hair was made specifically for miranda's head.

[BentOrgy]

Nashiktal wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

Boobs sell.

But seriously, I'm only going to pop my head in here, then probably run away before I, like so many others, get set on fire;

We may not know the "Story," reasons behind her new look, but from where we came from in ME1, Ash definitely wasn't the type to bounce around in a cute little jacket and thigh high boots. She also didn't strike me as the type to wear "Armor padding," while still showing her cleavage.

http://img3.imagesha...6/ashleyme3.jpg

She's your typical "Woman in a man's world," tomboy character, with a love for poetry thrown in for spice, and she her self famously says that she prefers thick armor with a big gun; this is why so many of us raged when we saw her "Outfit." Because at the time (And even now.) we haven't been given any logical, story based reason to believe this isn't a character crisis.

Add to the mix, that many Bioware fans have become increasingly worried with the company's new "Direction." I.E, trying to cater to people who think coming in on the THIRD title of a TRILOGY is a GOOD thing, the shoddy and linear way they handled so many of ME2's story related material (Horizon, Cerberus, the Collectors, the list goes on.) and such.

And there you'll have found several reasons why we "Haters," and "Whiners," are "Hating," and "Whining." When really, all most of us are doing is voicing concern over a story many of us have grown attached to. (I say most, because unfortunately, there are many more it seems that are brainless consumers who DO just want to pick a fight.)

Thank you, that last bit especially. You forgot to add whiners to the list though.

Glad to see my first post in this thread wasn't a complete disaster. And gasp! How could I?

[BentOrgy]

jreezy wrote...

I wouldn't exactly consider Ash a tomboy.

Oh? I might not know Merriam Webster's version of the word, but she seems to fit it to me; a woman who seems to contradict "Social Norms," by being more masculine, working in a mostly masculine field, and gernerally displaying more masculine traits than what most would consider "Feminine."

What would you call her? Soldier Girl?

Modifié par BentOrgy, 09 décembre 2011 - 03:29 .

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

BentOrgy wrote...

Boobs sell.

But seriously, I'm only going to pop my head in here, then probably run away before I, like so many others, get set on fire;

We may not know the "Story," reasons behind her new look, but from where we came from in ME1, Ash definitely wasn't the type to bounce around in a cute little jacket and thigh high boots. She also didn't strike me as the type to wear "Armor padding," while still showing her cleavage.

http://img3.imagesha...6/ashleyme3.jpg

She's your typical "Woman in a man's world," tomboy character, with a love for poetry thrown in for spice, and she her self famously says that she prefers thick armor with a big gun; this is why so many of us raged when we saw her "Outfit." Because at the time (And even now.) we haven't been given any logical, story based reason to believe this isn't a character crisis.

Add to the mix, that many Bioware fans have become increasingly worried with the company's new "Direction." I.E, trying to cater to people who think coming in on the THIRD title of a TRILOGY is a GOOD thing, the shoddy and linear way they handled so many of ME2's story related material (Horizon, Cerberus, the Collectors, the list goes on.) and such.

And there you'll have found several reasons why we "Haters," are "Hating." When really, all most of us are doing is voicing concern over a story many of us have grown attached to. (I say most, because unfortunately, there are many more it seems that are brainless consumers who DO just want to pick a fight.)

^ This one understands!!

The bolded part is the whole motivation for this thread and complaint IMO.

[Nashiktal]

jreezy wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

jreezy wrote...

I wouldn't exactly consider Ash a tomboy.

Oh? I might not know Merriam Webster's version of the word, but she seems to fit it to me; a woman who seems to contradict "Social Norms," by being more masculine, working in a mostly masculine field, and gernerally displaying more masculine traits than what most would consider "Feminine."

What would you call her? Soldier Girl?

A woman.

Which succesfully describes about half the human population on this earth. Ashley is a tomboy by definition. Woman and tomboy are not mutually exclusive.

Modifié par Nashiktal, 09 décembre 2011 - 03:34 .

[BentOrgy]

jreezy wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

jreezy wrote...

I wouldn't exactly consider Ash a tomboy.

Oh? I might not know Merriam Webster's version of the word, but she seems to fit it to me; a woman who seems to contradict "Social Norms," by being more masculine, working in a mostly masculine field, and gernerally displaying more masculine traits than what most would consider "Feminine."

What would you call her? Soldier Girl?

A woman.

Oh please, tell me we're not going to wade through the infinite layers of semantics and psuedo-feminism are we? Because it never gets anywhere, and it was hardly my point. Which was:

She has a basic character archetype, just like every other character in the game, (And almost every story in existance.) and she adheres to it every step of the way in ME1. Its not a bad thing, because its very similar to how people are in reality; some people are jerks, some people are saints, some people are crooks, some are philanthropists. I wasn't insulting her, if anything, I was defending her character's basic values and character traits.

EDIT:

To say thanks to xxSgt_Reed_24xx  and Nashiktal  for agreeing and making me appear sane.

Modifié par BentOrgy, 09 décembre 2011 - 03:37 .

[who would know]

BentOrgy wrote...

Glad to see my first post in this thread wasn't a complete disaster.

Far from it, (wo)man. Welcum tbh.

[Icinix]

BentOrgy wrote...

Boobs sell.

But seriously, I'm only going to pop my head in here, then probably run away before I, like so many others, get set on fire;

We may not know the "Story," reasons behind her new look, but from where we came from in ME1, Ash definitely wasn't the type to bounce around in a cute little jacket and thigh high boots. She also didn't strike me as the type to wear "Armor padding," while still showing her cleavage.

http://img3.imagesha...6/ashleyme3.jpg

She's your typical "Woman in a man's world," tomboy character, with a love for poetry thrown in for spice, and she her self famously says that she prefers thick armor with a big gun; this is why so many of us raged when we saw her "Outfit." Because at the time (And even now.) we haven't been given any logical, story based reason to believe this isn't a character crisis.

Add to the mix, that many Bioware fans have become increasingly worried with the company's new "Direction." I.E, trying to cater to people who think coming in on the THIRD title of a TRILOGY is a GOOD thing, the shoddy and linear way they handled so many of ME2's story related material (Horizon, Cerberus, the Collectors, the list goes on.) and such.

And there you'll have found several reasons why we "Haters," and "Whiners," are "Hating," and "Whining." When really, all most of us are doing is voicing concern over a story many of us have grown attached to. (I say most, because unfortunately, there are many more it seems that are brainless consumers who DO just want to pick a fight.)

EXACTLY! Good post.
The vast majority aren't crying how they're going to boycott the series, or all future games, or whatever.

Its just a raising of hands then asking  "Hey guys, whats going on here? Care to elaborate on this? What is the logical reason for this?"

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

Icinix wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

Boobs sell.

But seriously, I'm only going to pop my head in here, then probably run away before I, like so many others, get set on fire;

We may not know the "Story," reasons behind her new look, but from where we came from in ME1, Ash definitely wasn't the type to bounce around in a cute little jacket and thigh high boots. She also didn't strike me as the type to wear "Armor padding," while still showing her cleavage.

http://img3.imagesha...6/ashleyme3.jpg

She's your typical "Woman in a man's world," tomboy character, with a love for poetry thrown in for spice, and she her self famously says that she prefers thick armor with a big gun; this is why so many of us raged when we saw her "Outfit." Because at the time (And even now.) we haven't been given any logical, story based reason to believe this isn't a character crisis.

Add to the mix, that many Bioware fans have become increasingly worried with the company's new "Direction." I.E, trying to cater to people who think coming in on the THIRD title of a TRILOGY is a GOOD thing, the shoddy and linear way they handled so many of ME2's story related material (Horizon, Cerberus, the Collectors, the list goes on.) and such.

And there you'll have found several reasons why we "Haters," and "Whiners," are "Hating," and "Whining." When really, all most of us are doing is voicing concern over a story many of us have grown attached to. (I say most, because unfortunately, there are many more it seems that are brainless consumers who DO just want to pick a fight.)

EXACTLY! Good post.
The vast majority aren't crying how they're going to boycott the series, or all future games, or whatever.

Its just a raising of hands then asking  "Hey guys, whats going on here? Care to elaborate on this? What is the logical reason for this?"

Logic... in mah Mass Effect?!

SURELY YOU JEST!?

[Icinix]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Icinix wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

Boobs sell.

But seriously, I'm only going to pop my head in here, then probably run away before I, like so many others, get set on fire;

We may not know the "Story," reasons behind her new look, but from where we came from in ME1, Ash definitely wasn't the type to bounce around in a cute little jacket and thigh high boots. She also didn't strike me as the type to wear "Armor padding," while still showing her cleavage.

http://img3.imagesha...6/ashleyme3.jpg

She's your typical "Woman in a man's world," tomboy character, with a love for poetry thrown in for spice, and she her self famously says that she prefers thick armor with a big gun; this is why so many of us raged when we saw her "Outfit." Because at the time (And even now.) we haven't been given any logical, story based reason to believe this isn't a character crisis.

Add to the mix, that many Bioware fans have become increasingly worried with the company's new "Direction." I.E, trying to cater to people who think coming in on the THIRD title of a TRILOGY is a GOOD thing, the shoddy and linear way they handled so many of ME2's story related material (Horizon, Cerberus, the Collectors, the list goes on.) and such.

And there you'll have found several reasons why we "Haters," and "Whiners," are "Hating," and "Whining." When really, all most of us are doing is voicing concern over a story many of us have grown attached to. (I say most, because unfortunately, there are many more it seems that are brainless consumers who DO just want to pick a fight.)

EXACTLY! Good post.
The vast majority aren't crying how they're going to boycott the series, or all future games, or whatever.

Its just a raising of hands then asking  "Hey guys, whats going on here? Care to elaborate on this? What is the logical reason for this?"

Logic... in mah Mass Effect?!

SURELY YOU JEST!?

lol. Well...I was hoping the ME series was going to be a series of logic that shirked the "quick, lets put cheerleaders and zombies in a game to make it popular" mentality.

Alas - it would appear I will have to stick with choice / consequence and story to get my fix. Sad days.

[LPPrince]

Still waiting on Bioware to show Ashley in combat armor.

And I mean heavy armor.

[DrFumb1ezX]

^
I could swear I saw some pics earlier in another thread that had her in the classic bun hair/heavy armor.
Not entirely certain. Was pretty tired at that point in time.

[DrFumb1ezX]

jreezy wrote...

soccerchick wrote...

^
I could swear I saw some pics earlier in another thread that had her in the classic bun hair/heavy armor.
Not entirely certain. Was pretty tired at that point in time.

She has on heavy armor but for some reason it's not completely covering her like it should. Her legs are exposed and she has that "boob window".

Well, it's not sci-fi-fantasy-roleplaying-game armour until it has a boob window. Am I right? 

[ForteSJGR]

Loreal-Beacause she's worth it.

[ADLegend21]

Nashiktal wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

The hair bun probably isn't even her choice. More likely she wears it because of Alliance regulations and it's easier to fit a helmet over that.

If it's alliance regulations, then they apparently don't apply to FemShep

Indeed, but isn't there only one hair style for femshep that evens pushes the boundry though?

The new outfit just doesn't look all that sexy to me. That black concept art outfit looks the best out of all that I have seen, but I still roll my eyes at the damn boob window. When will bioware understand that you can be sexy and not be showing off your assets?

Dude she has MORE coverage in this outfit than her shirt and cargo pants from ME1. Her shirt and cargo pants were made of fabric, the new outfit has armor padding on it and covers her arms and hands.It's full body not a space bikini! soetimes I think the outfit hater just need something to whine about.

Thats nice and all but when did I ever complain about skin showing? I was talking about how the suit is so skin tight she has a wedgie just like Miranda does, only instead of being some sort of cloth like miranda's outfit her's looks to be some sort of rubber or leather outfit. ASSETS DO NOT EQUAL SKIN WAKKA WAKKA. I think you are just trying to find something to argue about with me, or at least that is what I am seeing from the insults.


And that bit about whining? Nice. You are not actually interested in debate or conversation at all are you? If you don't want to talk about it feel free to leave the thread.

You act like her tshirt and pants were baggy, they clung to her jsut as much only this uit doesn't seem to ahve wrinkles. The alliance shirts in ME1 were so tight you could see Kaidan and Malesheps ABS. Hell this suit probably lets ashley breathe better. second the Jacket covers her hips so there's no "wedgie", it goes down to her thighs wher you can see she has a seperate pair of pants. Her old outfits showed it off just as well same with all three versions of armor in ME1:

Same with female Shepard.

and Ashley has the same body model as Femshep and you can see how she looks from the side:


Look how tight Kaidan's shirt is, it contours to his muscles but no one's complaining about that, Vega's shirt does the same thing and no one's complaining!

Me1 was just as adept at showing off the females and the Males for the player, they chose a different outfit that's shines more to refelct her status as a spectre because you've never seen a Spectre besides Shepard in casual clothing. Don't act like "oh it's ME3 they're sexing all the women up!" No one's been sexed up their fashion tastes have changed djust as much as they have, it's called maturing. All characters need it or they're sucky ass static character and we'd be raning and raving more if bioware made them static. There is Nothing wrong with her outfit It's a great addition to her now that it reflects her status change from a gunnery chief to an incredibly skilled Spectre.

EVERYONE'S Assests get their own spotlight, it's never jsut been Ashley through the series, it's been everyone. The whole time you jsut didn't notice it until you got all upset about some changes.