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[Saasani]

 I'm running a brandnew macbook pro and really would like to play DA origins on it. im a huge NWN1 fan and was bummed when i learned it would be about 80 dollars for  a used amazon version to get NWN1 from macsoft -.-  So, since the microsoft monopoly continues and i refuse to play a superb rpg on any unreliable microsoft 360, i need some techy help

What is going to be the smartest/cheapest/BEST way for me to run Dragon Age: Origins on my macbook pro?  Is there a software like crossover that will run it smoothly or must i go and buy a dualboot software and microsoft xp and install all of that b.s. to get it working satisfactorily?

Thanks Peeps ^.^

[Skeetles]

Short answer: Lose the mac.

[FreyarS]

Dualboot if there isn't a Mac port. You'll need a bootloader, and a legal license of Windows.

[flem1]

7 (and Vista) is now faster than XP in modern games on modern systems.



And yes, you need Boot Camp. The other workaround type things aren't for gaming.

[Craig McDermott]

Step 1: Start driving on the freeway

Step 2: Throw your macbook out the car window while driving

Step 3: Buy a real computer

[FreyarS]

I really never understood the reasoning behind buying a mac.  You effectively pay more, to limit yourself artificially.

Modifié par FreyarS, 01 novembre 2009 - 07:04 .

[Saasani]

thank you to the two not completely unhelpful comments about opinion

[ITSSEXYTIME]

Even if you manage to somehow install windows on a mac (not super difficult) I doubt the hardware would be capable of running the game. Last I heard even the highest end macs were only really capable of running stuff like Call of Duty 4 or Team Fortress 2, not exactly demanding games.





Also, emulating windows won't work. You need a physical install because emulation software usually isn't designed to use the display adapter, it's meant to run less intensive applications that are platform limited. (Like an Internet Browser or something)

[Saasani]

FreyarS wrote...

I really never understood the reasoning behind buying a mac.  You effectively pay more, to limit yourself artificially.

Ease of use. And i dont like waiting 2 minutes for any windows OS to boot up like my roommate with his new son vaio.  He also runs a virus scan every week and just this week fell pray to a virus that got all of the universities emails and sent them out, the email came in to me quarantined. i laughed at him.  AAAnd since i'm on my third xbox 360 i vowed against microsoft since i dont feel like supporting a company that would make a 5 star product that is made to break so you can buy a new one or pay them to fix it after a year, sadly sony has failed to compete against microsuck though so a third 360 for me! this one i bought a 2 year best buy warrantee for though >.>

[FreyarS]

Saasani wrote...

thank you to the two not completely unhelpful comments about opinion

You can't be surprised about their reaction really.  Games and the Mac OS just.. aren't really connected to each other.

Ease of use. And i dont like waiting 2 minutes for any windows OS to
boot up like my roommate with his new son vaio.  He also runs a virus
scan every week and just this week fell pray to a virus that got all of
the universities emails and sent them out, the email came in to me
quarantined. i laughed at him.  AAAnd since i'm on my third xbox 360 i
vowed against microsoft since i dont feel like supporting a company
that would make a 5 star product that is made to break so you can buy a
new one or pay them to fix it after a year, sadly sony has failed to
compete against microsuck though so a third 360 for me! this one i
bought a 2 year best buy warrantee for though >.>

A well mantained OS won't take two minutes for it to start, and even then, hibernation tends to shorten that dramatically anyway.  Macs aren't really secure from infection.  It's like saying a business is secure because no one has robbed it. Once it happens, it will happen badly. In fact Mac OS X has been breached quite easily already.

As far as the 360, I totally understand the hardware hatred. I've been through six myself, but with that I know the difference between hardware and software. Windows itself is a decent OS, despite what some people claim, especially since it's universally usable. That is why it's so frustrating at times, not because it's a bad operating system.

Modifié par FreyarS, 01 novembre 2009 - 07:13 .

[Saasani]

well i'll waste my time and set up all of this dual boot windows crap and let you all know how it works hopefully well or else i'll be playin my xbox til the red lights show up

[Icinix]

To get away from the versus debate where this is headed.

Dual booting is really the only realistic way to go. End of story.

EDIT: I just got ninjayed by the OP... How freaking embarassing.

Modifié par Icinix, 01 novembre 2009 - 07:13 .

[GhoXen]

Craig McDermott wrote...

Step 1: Start driving on the freeway
Step 2: Throw your macbook out the car window while driving
Step 3: Buy a real computer

You forgot the best part.

Step 4: Drive over your Mac while on your way back with your real computer.

[TrollOgerElf]

Craig McDermott wrote...

Step 1: Start driving on the freeway
Step 2: Throw your macbook out the car window while driving
Step 3: Buy a real computer

Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit

[Silentplanet]

A windows machine without a virus scanner is absolutely fine. It's such BS, most viruses these days are trojan's anyways it takes an idiot to get infected.

[FreyarS]

1) OSX does not need "maintaining". However, a windows machine without maintaining is a ticking time bomb.

Point is? You still can use only a fraction (if that) of the software and hardware pieces available to windows machines. It's simply "easy to maintain" because the OS rejects hardware and software.

2) Macs are not even in the same universe PC, when talking about viruses. There are only a few viruses on OSX, and most of those are old models, not working with newer operating systems. Besides, many of these so-called-viruses on Mac are in fact trojans. Decease because of the stupidity of the user.

You think a majority of infections on Windows aren't the same. Just because writers aren't writing stuff for the Mac doesn't mean the OS is secure. It was hit, and it was hit hard just like a windows system. If you are careful and very strict with what you do as the user, you can run a windows machine without an anti-viral suite. Most people just can't be bothered.

OSX is a very secure operating system compared to Windows. There's just no way around it.

A federal building is the most secure building in the world even without armed guards. There's just no way around it.

Modifié par FreyarS, 01 novembre 2009 - 07:33 .

[Saasani]

alrighty i got another question, i'm reading up on a lot of people having problems since windows seven came out so recently it may be buggy to install with bootcamp, should i revert to xp?

[Alienraptor]

Boot Camp is the best option, and works wonderfully on my MacBook Pro 3,1. I was able to run games such as Mass Effect, Fallout 3 (at an admittedly low resolution), and GRID with what I considered to be acceptable settings. They were all completely playable (the actual design of the games notwithstanding).

Unless you got the really gimped MBP model, I think it ought to run DA:O acceptably, though of course not spectacularly.

I actually prefer the OS X interface on my MBP, while I usually prefer Windows on desktops. I think for laptops, OS X has a much better "feel" to it, particularly in terms of trackpad response. This is my best stab at describing something that I can't really explain. Generally, I also prefer the OS X interface and design paradigm. It may be that I'm used to it (moved to OS X from Windows 2 years ago), but for whatever reason it works better for me.

The question of security is complicated, but it is quite obvious that, regardless of the technical strength of OS X vs. Windows against attacks, Windows is probably required to withstand dozens (hundreds? thousands?) of times as many attacks as OS X. To wit, more viruses exist that are targeted at Windows. Empirically, I think it is highly likely that OS X-based systems are breached significantly less frequently, perhaps even when normalized for relative prevalence of each OS.

Modifié par Alienraptor, 01 novembre 2009 - 07:41 .

[FreyarS]

I'd probably stick with what works unless you can trace what those Win7 issues are. Or worst case go with Vista so you can do an in-place upgrade later if you wish to.

[Saasani]

[quote]Alienraptor wrote...

Boot Camp is the best option, and works wonderfully on my MacBook Pro 3,1. I was able to run games such as Mass Effect, Fallout 3 (at an admittedly low resolution), and GRID with what I considered to be acceptable settings.

   

What windows platform are you running with bootcamp?

[jayheld90]

FreyarS wrote...

I really never understood the reasoning behind buying a mac.  You effectively pay more, to limit yourself artificially.

you didn't understand, because there IS no reason.

[Saasani]

can we all agree that vista sucks though and that between that and xp i should go xp? lol

[MrGOH]

Saasani wrote...

can we all agree that vista sucks though and that between that and xp i should go xp? lol

Yes. Or Windows 7, which I hear is nice, and cheap if you're a student.