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[Alienraptor]

Saasani wrote...

alrighty i got another question, i'm reading up on a lot of people having problems since windows seven came out so recently it may be buggy to install with bootcamp, should i revert to xp?

I'm running Windows 7 RC in Boot Camp without any trouble (except getting the 64-bit DVD recognized in the Boot Camp loader took some effort, due to an error that I read was resolved in the Unibody models). YMMV, of course.

I have also run XP in the past in Boot Camp Beta in 10.4 without any trouble, for what it's worth. By my estimation, it's unlikely that you will encounter many problems with Windows 7. Obviously this is based on my personal experience (n=1) and I can't really point to any evidence beyond that.

Modifié par Alienraptor, 01 novembre 2009 - 07:46 .

[FreyarS]

Vista isn't as bad as it used to be. I'll say that much, though it certainly isn't an OS I'd stick to for long. If you have a spare key just floating around, I'd use that and upgrade to Win7 when things have cleared. Vista to Win7 in-place upgrades are actually pretty useful.

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Why should OS X not reject Windows hardware and software? this is just silly. Windows does not allow OS X software either.

It's not a case of "OS X rejecting Windows hardware and software" more in that there are driver limitations because companies just don't support it. Why? Because a majority of people that use the hardware are on Windows, and naturally they gravitated to one side.

Yeah, some do, but it's entirely up to the manufacturer, and getting a manufacturer to start support is frustratingly impossible.  I just a quick check for nVidia drivers and Saitek drivers for various lines of nVidia cards, and the X-52. Both don't have "certified" (official) drivers for Mac OS X. Congratulations, two pieces of hardware you can't really use, outside of what Apple provides (I assume they decide to safeguard OS X drivers anyway...).

Yeah, sure. Run a PC without a virus-sofware for 1 year, and then get back here.

I do. Twenty machines in fact. Guess what, I get one infection every oh.. nine months, and that's because the user was stupid.

Modifié par FreyarS, 01 novembre 2009 - 07:52 .

[Saasani]

hm, i also think i can get xp pro for about 55ish dollars whereas seven would be about 120 lol... is it worth it? -.-

[Saasani]

Saasani wrote...

hm, i also think i can get xp pro for about 55ish dollars whereas seven would be about 120 lol... is it worth it? -.-

okay maybe i misread the link i'm looking at, getting a copy of windows xp pro is probably gonna be more expensive than getting  a copy of seven... agh.

[Icinix]

Saasani wrote...

hm, i also think i can get xp pro for about 55ish dollars whereas seven would be about 120 lol... is it worth it? -.-

If you really only want it for one game then yes. Bare in mind though if any games come out in the future that do not support XP and you really want them, then you'll have to go ahead and get a newer OS anyway. I really think Microsoft wants to kill off XP as soon as they can anyway, so you might only get a few years of support anyway. But that is purely speculation and I can't back that up whatsoever.

Modifié par Icinix, 01 novembre 2009 - 08:06 .

[FreyarS]

Windows XP Home (OEM), $89.99

Windows 7 Home Premium, $188.99

XP is supposed to have its support ending in the near future (though they do keep extending it.)

Modifié par FreyarS, 01 novembre 2009 - 08:08 .

[Saasani]

ugh, damn software! my poor college student pockets dont run deep enough for this ****! lol

[FreyarS]

Saasani wrote...

ugh, damn software! my poor college student pockets dont run deep enough for this ****! lol

PC Gaming is expensive.  At roughly $250, $300 it'd be dealt with. (PS3) 

[Saasani]

mmmmhm, i may just submit to the simplest though least satisfying method of buying it for xbox360 and hoping the universal xclamps dont fail me anytime soon

[Icinix]

Saasani wrote...

mmmmhm, i may just submit to the simplest though least satisfying method of buying it for xbox360 and hoping the universal xclamps dont fail me anytime soon

Your optimism amuses me.

[Saasani]

though i still wanna dual boot for nwn too! gar!

[Yenkaz]

Would people please stop racking down on mac's and shut up or help the guy?

This is not a discussion about the merits of macs, this is about how to go about playing DA on one.

Anyway, Saasani, depending on where you are studying, you can get Windows 7 for $30 if you are American: http://www.microsoft.../windows-7.aspx and a few other countries seem to have offers as well.

Modifié par Yenkaz, 01 novembre 2009 - 09:08 .

[Welnic]

If you are a student you should be able to get Win7 for $30. I would go with that. At the moment you have to manually install the Boot Camp drivers since Win7 isn't officially supported. This means that things like the keyboard backlights, the camera, the function keys that control brightness aren't going to work. You would have to put your OSX install disk in and manually navigate to the drivers you need and install them. But they should have full support for Win7 by the end of the year. If you go with 32bit instead of 64 things will be a little easier also, and I don't think there will be a big difference with a laptop.



I don't think your laptop will have any trouble running DA:O.

[Yenkaz]

Quick addition: Saasani It is quite essential that your model has either a mid-range GPU such as 8600mgt/9600m GT for medium game settings or at least 9400m for low settings.

[ngen]

I love threads like these. It shows who is talking out of their asses and who really knows something about the ordeal.



I've used macs for 13 years now for work. It has always been the most reliable platform when working with graphics, publishing and so on.

I have a PC for gaming, since most games is only released for the PC. But saying that the hardware in a modern mac is "slower" than on a PC just shows that most people know jack about it.

My MacBook Pro has a 3.06GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 8gb ram. And if you go with a stationary mac some of the most powerful graphic cards from Geforce are for mac.



In terms of OP's question - use bootcamp.. Depending on what Macbook you have you might still have problems running it though, due to the nature of your Gfx card.

[Margoshi]

"And if you go with a stationary mac some of the most powerful graphic cards from Geforce are for mac."



Proof or get out.

[ByblosHex]

Margoshi wrote...

"And if you go with a stationary mac some of the most powerful graphic cards from Geforce are for mac."

Proof or get out.

I second this statement.

[ngen]

Margoshi wrote...

"And if you go with a stationary mac some of the most powerful graphic cards from Geforce are for mac."

Proof or get out.

<_< <-

[Slimcharles]

Saasani wrote...

FreyarS wrote...

I really never understood the reasoning behind buying a mac.  You effectively pay more, to limit yourself artificially.

Ease of use. And i dont like waiting 2 minutes for any windows OS to boot up like my roommate with his new son vaio.  He also runs a virus scan every week and just this week fell pray to a virus that got all of the universities emails and sent them out, the email came in to me quarantined. i laughed at him.  AAAnd since i'm on my third xbox 360 i vowed against microsoft since i dont feel like supporting a company that would make a 5 star product that is made to break so you can buy a new one or pay them to fix it after a year, sadly sony has failed to compete against microsuck though so a third 360 for me! this one i bought a 2 year best buy warrantee for though >.>

Jakes on you brah, you have a mac.

[Slimcharles]

MogwaiX wrote...

FreyarS wrote...

A well mantained OS won't take two minutes for it to start, and even then, hibernation tends to shorten that dramatically anyway.  Macs aren't really secure from infection.  It's like saying a business is secure because no one has robbed it. Once it happens, it will happen badly. In fact Mac OS X has been breached quite easily already.

I understand this point of view from a person not very familiar with Macs. I have several PC:s and Macs in my company.

1) OSX does not need "maintaining". However, a windows machine without maintaining is a ticking time bomb.

2) Macs are not even in the same universe PC, when talking about viruses. There are only a few viruses on OSX, and most of those are old models, not working with newer operating systems. Besides, many of these so-called-viruses on Mac are in fact trojans. Decease because of the stupidity of the user.

A Windows machine without a Virusblocker software is -dead-.

3) OSX is a very secure operating system compared to Windows. There's just no way around it.

4) I'm sad that Apple took the "Macs are not for gaming."-stance. Macs were great for games back in the 80's. But then they decided to upgrade their image in the eyes of businesses...

I haven't used antivirus software for years. Maybe you stop using your public torrents if you are so afraid of sporkeh.

[Erruk]

Skeetles wrote...

Short answer: Lose the mac.

Best answer.

[imsayingit]

I lol when people says things like "lose the mac", "buy a real pc" or whatever non informed biased opinion.



The real fact is nowadays Macs are Pcs created by world class engineers, bundled with a great operative system, than, im my personal opinion exceeds windows in every aspect but games support.



The point is you could buy a Mac because the excelent chasis, hardware and overall design, install Windows on it and you could forget about the apple company forever. If you tell me you can buy a much better Pc going to "Timmy's ware" and "PCshoping" and doing some garage work, well, i don't believe you.



A regarding OP, as said, bootcamp.

[daem3an]

To the OP: You should have no problem whatsoever running DAO on your mac, once you install Windows and update the drivers for your hardware (something every Windows user has to deal with). If you haven't done it before, I suggest using Bootcamp for the easiest setup and best experience.

Contrary to what a lot of ignorant people will tell you, your mac's hardware does exactly the same things as a Windows PC, as long as you meet the system requirements you can play any Windows game. I've been running Vista 64-bit on my mac for a long time completely problem free, and playing the latest games at max settings on a 24" monitor. I should also add that in that time, I have had zero issues with malware etc. If you're starting fresh, Windows 7 might be your best bet, albeit with some of the usual headaches of running a brand new OS. Expect frequent updates, I get them almost every day in Vista.

Modifié par daem3an, 01 novembre 2009 - 05:44 .

[FreyarS]

The real fact is nowadays Macs are Pcs created by world class engineers, bundled with a great operative system, than, im my personal opinion exceeds windows in every aspect but games support.

And people are surprised that the response is "use a windows based PC for windows based games"? For people that intend to play games, a Mac OS environment just doesn't work. Is it because the environment is inferior? Not really, there's just no support from the developers.



Of course Macs do well in graphic design and so on, that's their focus, and they do have the hardware to back that up but at what cost versus a custom build for windows?