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#176
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Xeranx wrote...

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It was leading to sex. You are seriously broken if you can't see that.


How are you sure?  You're seriously broken if you can actually think your assumption can be used as proof.


How are you sure it wasn't leading to sex? You are using your assumption as proof too. But my assumption is much more likely.


Actually I said it could be anything which is a fact.  I made no assumption about her motives after she started having you recite her words.  I posited what it could be, but never made a distinction as to what it actually was.


Fine. Then what do you think she was doing. What do you assume. I'd really like to know.

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CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

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Okay. This situation doesn't make me have more respect for Samara. But it should definately make you lose at least a bit of respect for Morinth.


I respect Morinth for not choosing seclusion. The fact the she has to fight back for that choice could be handelled differently I suppose, but it is understandable.


Samara also respects Morinth for not choosing seclusion. As do I. But that doesn't mean it's okay to send a village to it's death.


I know. Samara is like a puppet, does what she doesn't want to do, even though she has enough power to not do it. I really don't like Samara.

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wtf r u people still talking about? this thread ended 7 pages ago. Arkdat Yakshis are sterile. Samara had babies. While she carries the gene, she herself is not one.

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D.Kain wrote...

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Okay. This situation doesn't make me have more respect for Samara. But it should definately make you lose at least a bit of respect for Morinth.


I respect Morinth for not choosing seclusion. The fact the she has to fight back for that choice could be handelled differently I suppose, but it is understandable.


Samara also respects Morinth for not choosing seclusion. As do I. But that doesn't mean it's okay to send a village to it's death.


I know. Samara is like a puppet, does what she doesn't want to do, even though she has enough power to not do it. I really don't like Samara.




Having the power not do do something doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.

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wtf r u people still talking about? this thread ended 7 pages ago. Arkdat Yakshis are sterile. Samara had babies. While she carries the gene, she herself is not one.

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We are not talking exactly about that yes. We probably should move the discution into Morinth fan thread or Samara fan thread.

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CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

Having the power not do do something doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.


Having the power to not do something wrong, means that you shouldn't do it, unless you will be drastically punished for it.

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Hellbound555 wrote...

wtf r u people still talking about? this thread ended 7 pages ago. Arkdat Yakshis are sterile. Samara had babies. While she carries the gene, she herself is not one.

/thread


It's called a conversation. Deal with it.

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D.Kain wrote...

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Having the power not do do something doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.


Having the power to not do something wrong, means that you shouldn't do it, unless you will be drastically punished for it.


It's not always about what is wrong or right.

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CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

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Having the power not do do something doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.


Having the power to not do something wrong, means that you shouldn't do it, unless you will be drastically punished for it.


It's not always about what is wrong or right.


What is it about then? :huh:

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D.Kain wrote...

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Having the power not do do something doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.


Having the power to not do something wrong, means that you shouldn't do it, unless you will be drastically punished for it.


It's not always about what is wrong or right.


What is it about then? :huh:


By "it" I meant life.

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By "it" I meant life.


Well yes. What are we talking about then? lol

Morinth is no more wrong than Samara or the rest of the crew.

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By "it" I meant life.


Well yes. What are we talking about then? lol

Morinth is no more wrong than Samara or the rest of the crew.


Yeah. She is. Most of the crew kill for necessity. Morinth kills because she likes the power. And has been doing it for over 400 years. She has bad motives, and has racked up more kills than any one crewmember. She is worse.

And Samara is similar, but with better motives. So, Morinth IS worse than Samara or the rest of the crew.

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Yeah. She is. Most of the crew kill for necessity. Morinth kills because she likes the power. And has been doing it for over 400 years. She has bad motives, and has racked up more kills than any one crewmember. She is worse.

And Samara is similar, but with better motives. So, Morinth IS worse than Samara or the rest of the crew.


You assume that she kills for fun.

We don't know her motives yet. Maybe she wanted to fight back the Justicars when she had more power. Maybe she wanted to free the other Ardat-yakshi from seclusion. Maybe she wanted to reveal Arday-yakshi to galactic community.

Most of the crew kill for necessity but not all of the crew. Samara doesn't have better motives, but that is only my opinion.

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CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

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By "it" I meant life.


Well yes. What are we talking about then? lol

Morinth is no more wrong than Samara or the rest of the crew.


Yeah. She is. Most of the crew kill for necessity. Morinth kills because she likes the power. And has been doing it for over 400 years. She has bad motives, and has racked up more kills than any one crewmember. She is worse.

And Samara is similar, but with better motives. So, Morinth IS worse than Samara or the rest of the crew.

She sure is but D.Kain would never admit it because of his bias towards her. 

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She sure is but D.Kain would never admit it because of his bias towards her. 


But I made my bias made on her character right? 

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Yeah. She is. Most of the crew kill for necessity. Morinth kills because she likes the power. And has been doing it for over 400 years. She has bad motives, and has racked up more kills than any one crewmember. She is worse.

And Samara is similar, but with better motives. So, Morinth IS worse than Samara or the rest of the crew.


You assume that she kills for fun.

We don't know her motives yet. Maybe she wanted to fight back the Justicars when she had more power. Maybe she wanted to free the other Ardat-yakshi from seclusion. Maybe she wanted to reveal Arday-yakshi to galactic community.

Most of the crew kill for necessity but not all of the crew. Samara doesn't have better motives, but that is only my opinion.



Fighting the Justicars? So she's killing so she can kill some more? Not a good motive. Freeing the other Ardat-Yakshi's sounds nice, but they are probably content with the life they're living. They had a chance to run, they chose seclusion. And anyone can reveal the Ardat-Yakshi to the galaxy. It's not exactly a secret, it's just private. People knowing about Ardat-Yakshi's wouldn't change anything.

None of those are good enough motives for the amount she has killed.

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She sure is but D.Kain would never admit it because of his bias towards her. 


But I made my bias made on her character right? 

Of course. Still, your bias towards Morinth makes you say some of the craziest things in order to defend her.

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jreezy wrote...

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By "it" I meant life.


Well yes. What are we talking about then? lol

Morinth is no more wrong than Samara or the rest of the crew.


Yeah. She is. Most of the crew kill for necessity. Morinth kills because she likes the power. And has been doing it for over 400 years. She has bad motives, and has racked up more kills than any one crewmember. She is worse.

And Samara is similar, but with better motives. So, Morinth IS worse than Samara or the rest of the crew.

She sure is but D.Kain would never admit it because of his bias towards her. 



You're just trying to make him angry.

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CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

jreezy wrote...

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

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By "it" I meant life.


Well yes. What are we talking about then? lol

Morinth is no more wrong than Samara or the rest of the crew.


Yeah. She is. Most of the crew kill for necessity. Morinth kills because she likes the power. And has been doing it for over 400 years. She has bad motives, and has racked up more kills than any one crewmember. She is worse.

And Samara is similar, but with better motives. So, Morinth IS worse than Samara or the rest of the crew.

She sure is but D.Kain would never admit it because of his bias towards her. 



You're just trying to make him angry.

D.Kain doesn't get angry at criticism as far as I can tell. At least not overtly.

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Fighting the Justicars? So she's killing so she can kill some more? Not a good motive. Freeing the other Ardat-Yakshi's sounds nice, but they are probably content with the life they're living. They had a chance to run, they chose seclusion. And anyone can reveal the Ardat-Yakshi to the galaxy. It's not exactly a secret, it's just private. People knowing about Ardat-Yakshi's wouldn't change anything.

None of those are good enough motives for the amount she has killed.


Well I don't know, I don't like justicars, and it's their duty to hunt down rogue AY. 
I don't think that so many AY are conten't with their lives, they just don't want to die, or kill for their freedom like Morinth. Nobody in the galactic community knows AY, exept enlightened people and those that have ties. The only people that know about AY in ME2 for example are Samara and Aria, Shepard started to know from Samara. Asari use all their resourses to hide the AY existence from the galactic community, it is written in the lore.

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jreezy wrote...

Of course. Still, your bias towards Morinth makes you say some of the craziest things in order to defend her.


I just say what I believe. 

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jreezy wrote...

D.Kain doesn't get angry at criticism as far as I can tell. At least not overtly.


I only get angry when people don't listen properly to the answers. ^_^

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D.Kain wrote...

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Fighting the Justicars? So she's killing so she can kill some more? Not a good motive. Freeing the other Ardat-Yakshi's sounds nice, but they are probably content with the life they're living. They had a chance to run, they chose seclusion. And anyone can reveal the Ardat-Yakshi to the galaxy. It's not exactly a secret, it's just private. People knowing about Ardat-Yakshi's wouldn't change anything.

None of those are good enough motives for the amount she has killed.


Well I don't know, I don't like justicars, and it's their duty to hunt down rogue AY. 
I don't think that so many AY are conten't with their lives, they just don't want to die, or kill for their freedom like Morinth. Nobody in the galactic community knows AY, exept enlightened people and those that have ties. The only people that know about AY in ME2 for example are Samara and Aria, Shepard started to know from Samara. Asari use all their resourses to hide the AY existence from the galactic community, it is written in the lore.




Justicars don't only hunt down Ardat-Yakshi. That's just what Samara's doing.

Still, the galaxy knowing about Ardat-Yakshi wouldn't change anything. Not really.

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D.Kain wrote...

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Of course. Still, your bias towards Morinth makes you say some of the craziest things in order to defend her.


I just say what I believe. 


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CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

Justicars don't only hunt down Ardat-Yakshi. That's just what Samara's doing.

Still, the galaxy knowing about Ardat-Yakshi wouldn't change anything. Not really.


Maybe. But freeing them could change something. There is actually a lot of possibility right now, when reapers are invading, if Bioware would choose to explore it.