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[D.Kain]

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...
Saying what you believe is great and all, but have you tried believing something true?

It's not beliefe anymore, it's knowledge.  We don' t have enough knowledge about Morinth, sadly. 

[CyberDirectorFreedom]

D.Kain wrote...

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

Justicars don't only hunt down Ardat-Yakshi. That's just what Samara's doing.

Still, the galaxy knowing about Ardat-Yakshi wouldn't change anything. Not really.

Maybe. But freeing them could change something. There is actually a lot of possibility right now, when reapers are invading, if Bioware would choose to explore it. 

According to Samara, only 3 are in existence. That leaves 2 locked up. They really won't make much difference to anything.

[D.Kain]

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote..

According to Samara, only 3 are in existence. That leaves 2 locked up. They really won't make much difference to anything.

No, no. Read the codex! There are millions of AY from billions of asari. Samara only PERSONALLY knows 3.

[CyberDirectorFreedom]

D.Kain wrote...

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...
Saying what you believe is great and all, but have you tried believing something true?

It's not beliefe anymore, it's knowledge.  We don' t have enough knowledge about Morinth, sadly. 

I have enough knowledge to realise she's evil. And while Samara is by no means good, she's a bloody saint compared to Morinth.

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

Justicars don't only hunt down Ardat-Yakshi. That's just what Samara's doing.

Still, the galaxy knowing about Ardat-Yakshi wouldn't change anything. Not really.

Maybe. But freeing them could change something. There is actually a lot of possibility right now, when reapers are invading, if Bioware would choose to explore it. 

Only if they really want to be free should Morinth even attempt that. If their desire to keep from harming innocents is greater than their desire for freedom I say keep the other Ardat-Yakshi in seclusion. Judging by the choices made though I'm pretty sure they don't want to be free. Only Morinth was selfish enough to want freedom.

I believe everybody want to be free. Nobody would limit free Ardat-Yakshi to still live in seclusion. And it would be a lot more satisfying to choose seclusion rather than it be forced.

And the phrase - 'selfish enough to want freedom' is so messed up.

Modifié par D.Kain, 31 octobre 2011 - 08:22 .

[D.Kain]

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

I have enough knowledge to realise she's evil. And while Samara is by no means good, she's a bloody saint compared to Morinth.

Sure, I don't blame you for thinking this way. 

I know though that Morinth is very good to Shepard.

[CyberDirectorFreedom]

D.Kain wrote...

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote..

According to Samara, only 3 are in existence. That leaves 2 locked up. They really won't make much difference to anything.

No, no. Read the codex! There are millions of AY from billions of asari. Samara only PERSONALLY knows 3.

It says 1 percent are on the Ardat-Yakshi spectrum. I assume this includes people like Samara who have the gene but aren't Ardat-Yakshi. They can also only be Ardat-Yakshi if they are a "pureblood" which is discouraged. But sure, more than 3. That's true.

[CyberDirectorFreedom]

D.Kain wrote...

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

I have enough knowledge to realise she's evil. And while Samara is by no means good, she's a bloody saint compared to Morinth.

Sure, I don't blame you for thinking this way. 

I know though that Morinth is very good to Shepard.

Right up until she sex kills you. Although it is Shepards choice.

But, you know, Samara's good to Shepard as well. So that really doesn't help Morinth a whole lot.

[CyberDirectorFreedom]

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

Justicars don't only hunt down Ardat-Yakshi. That's just what Samara's doing.

Still, the galaxy knowing about Ardat-Yakshi wouldn't change anything. Not really.

Maybe. But freeing them could change something. There is actually a lot of possibility right now, when reapers are invading, if Bioware would choose to explore it. 

Only if they really want to be free should Morinth even attempt that. If their desire to keep from harming innocents is greater than their desire for freedom I say keep the other Ardat-Yakshi in seclusion. Judging by the choices made though I'm pretty sure they don't want to be free. Only Morinth was selfish enough to want freedom.

I believe everybody want to be free. Nobody would limit free Ardat-Yakshi to still live in seclusion. And it would be a lot more satisfying to choose seclusion rather than it be forced.

And the phrase - 'selfish enough to want freedom' is so messed up.

I agree. Freedom is something everyone deserves. It's not selfish to want it. But some people can't have it.

Also, don't bring up that phrase around African Americans. I'm just saying.

[CyberDirectorFreedom]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

Justicars don't only hunt down Ardat-Yakshi. That's just what Samara's doing.

Still, the galaxy knowing about Ardat-Yakshi wouldn't change anything. Not really.

Maybe. But freeing them could change something. There is actually a lot of possibility right now, when reapers are invading, if Bioware would choose to explore it. 

Only if they really want to be free should Morinth even attempt that. If their desire to keep from harming innocents is greater than their desire for freedom I say keep the other Ardat-Yakshi in seclusion. Judging by the choices made though I'm pretty sure they don't want to be free. Only Morinth was selfish enough to want freedom.

I believe everybody want to be free. Nobody would limit free Ardat-Yakshi to still live in seclusion. And it would be a lot more satisfying to choose seclusion rather than it be forced.

And the phrase - 'selfish enough to want freedom' is so messed up.

In these circumstances I don't see how. Morinth knew how dangerous she could be in the general poulation as did her sisters. Instead of taking that risk of possibly killing innocent people they decided it would be best for everyone if they lived peacefully away from everyone else. Morinth thought she was above such a lifestyle and decided to run. 

Seriously, that's like saying it's selfish to want to breathe. It's pretty messed.

[CyberDirectorFreedom]

jreezy wrote...

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

Justicars don't only hunt down Ardat-Yakshi. That's just what Samara's doing.

Still, the galaxy knowing about Ardat-Yakshi wouldn't change anything. Not really.

Maybe. But freeing them could change something. There is actually a lot of possibility right now, when reapers are invading, if Bioware would choose to explore it. 

Only if they really want to be free should Morinth even attempt that. If their desire to keep from harming innocents is greater than their desire for freedom I say keep the other Ardat-Yakshi in seclusion. Judging by the choices made though I'm pretty sure they don't want to be free. Only Morinth was selfish enough to want freedom.

I believe everybody want to be free. Nobody would limit free Ardat-Yakshi to still live in seclusion. And it would be a lot more satisfying to choose seclusion rather than it be forced.

And the phrase - 'selfish enough to want freedom' is so messed up.

In these circumstances I don't see how. Morinth knew how dangerous she could be in the general poulation as did her sisters. Instead of taking that risk of possibly killing innocent people they decided it would be best for everyone if they lived peacefully away from everyone else. Morinth thought she was above such a lifestyle and decided to run. 

Seriously, that's like saying it's selfish to want to breathe. It's pretty messed.

No it isn't. Comparing freedom to wanting to live is pretty messed up though.

You're not really living if you aren't free.

But okay. It's like saying communism is right.

[D.Kain]

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

It says 1 percent are on the Ardat-Yakshi spectrum. I assume this includes people like Samara who have the gene but aren't Ardat-Yakshi. They can also only be Ardat-Yakshi if they are a "pureblood" which is discouraged. But sure, more than 3. That's true.

Well yes imagine how many asari are there in the galaxy, 1% could be a LOT. And I think it is only those that live in seclusion. I don't think that if asari knew the gene those that had the posibility to breed AY would breed, though Samara it seems really wanted to have a 'normal' child, since she breeded 3. 

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

No it isn't. Comparing freedom to wanting to live is pretty messed up though.

There are just better ways to solve the AY problem if you are a rational person that wan't everybody to be happy.

[D.Kain]

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

You're not really living if you aren't free.

But okay. It's like saying communism is right.

1) Agree. I wonder how do you feel free under the goverment though.. :happy:

2) What does communism has to do with this? Communism works just fine if those that live in it are communists tha believe in it. Democracy works with democrats, anarchy works with anarhysts. 

[CyberDirectorFreedom]

D.Kain wrote...

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

It says 1 percent are on the Ardat-Yakshi spectrum. I assume this includes people like Samara who have the gene but aren't Ardat-Yakshi. They can also only be Ardat-Yakshi if they are a "pureblood" which is discouraged. But sure, more than 3. That's true.

Well yes imagine how many asari are there in the galaxy, 1% could be a LOT. And I think it is only those that live in seclusion. I don't think that if asari knew the gene those that had the posibility to breed AY would breed, though Samara it seems really wanted to have a 'normal' child, since she breeded 3. 

Yeah. You gotta figure that they'd have at least the same amount of people as humans do. I think it was around 13 billion on Earth? 1% of 13 billion is 130 million. So, yeah.....

[CyberDirectorFreedom]

D.Kain wrote...

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

You're not really living if you aren't free.

But okay. It's like saying communism is right.

1) Agree. I wonder how do you feel free under the goverment though.. :happy:

2) What does communism has to do with this? Communism works just fine if those that live in it are communists tha believe in it. Democracy works with democrats, anarchy works with anarhysts. 

Well, it has nothing to do with anything at the moment. The point is, it isn't selfish to want freedom, and I don't like communism.

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

Is it rational to want everybody happy? I'd consider that more along the lines of wishful thinking. If we consider Morinth a test run and you look at the lives Morinth has changed for the worst then it is logical to assume that releasing the Ardat Yakshi may not be such a good idea.

DUDE! It IS rational to want everyone to be happy! If not then YOU shouldn't have a problem with Morinth at all, because you think that she just wan't to be happy herself, and it's impossible for everybody to be happy. And how are we supposed to make a good living conditions if everybody thinks that it is irrational to have everybody happy???

[D.Kain]

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

Well, it has nothing to do with anything at the moment. The point is, it isn't selfish to want freedom, and I don't like communism.

That I agree with.

[CyberDirectorFreedom]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

No it isn't. Comparing freedom to wanting to live is pretty messed up though.

There are just better ways to solve the AY problem if you are a rational person that wan't everybody to be happy.

Is it rational to want everybody happy? I'd consider that more along the lines of wishful thinking. If we consider Morinth a test run and you look at the lives Morinth has changed for the worst then it is logical to assume that releasing the Ardat Yakshi may not be such a good idea.

I mostly agree, but you can't compare all Ardat-Yakshi with Morinth. I mean, take Hitler for example. He was an evil guy. However, that doesn't mean that all humans, or all Germans are evil. Comparing an individual to a group is the basis of racism.

[D.Kain]

CyberDirectorFreedom wrote...

I mostly agree, but you can't compare all Ardat-Yakshi with Morinth. I mean, take Hitler for example. He was an evil guy. However, that doesn't mean that all humans, or all Germans are evil. Comparing an individual to a group is the basis of racism.

I think that Morinth could be compared to Spartacus more than Hitler. Spartacus that would revolt completely alone.