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I'm sorry, but I have to ask: is this in any way related to real life?


By that I mean do you feel that way about "mixed families" in real life.


I was talking about Mass Effect, though I question the health of mixed families in real-life too considering the downsides faced by mixed societies.


Well that's better than "repulsive," ha ha. And I can understand that, I've seen it.

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Seboist wrote...

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*snip*
Are you going to light a cross on fire on their lawn as a sign of protest?


Do Batarians even have lawns?


I don't know but he could have moved into femshep's house ya know.

And femShep serves him Ice Tea in apron, as he mows their manicured lawns...I can so see that...:P

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Hilarious how many people hate batarians on principle of having slavery and being slavers, when humans have taken slaves throughout our history and it still exists today. Other species in ME do it too. Nassana's sister in ME1 was a slaver too.

And I dispise those human cultures which consider slavery and other forms of forced servitude acceptable as well. I'm sure that there are portions of the Batarian species that do not utilize slave labor and what-not, but these are few enough that they are not a major influence in their government or culture

Batarian culture is a caste-based system where the majority of the poplulace is limited economically based on parentage with extremely limited (if any) opportunity to improve their life or their children's lives. They also aggresively attack other species in order to gather slave labor, which should in itself be justification to wipe the Hegemony off of the galacitic map.

The combinantion of repugnant cultural values combines with constant assaults against my nation result in a deep dislike for the species in general.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I'm sorry, but I have to ask: is this in any way related to real life?


By that I mean do you feel that way about "mixed families" in real life.


I was talking about Mass Effect, though I question the health of mixed families in real-life too considering the downsides faced by mixed societies.


:blink:

What backwater nation of primitives do you live in where this is a common occurence? 1900's USA?

Or is modern USA still like this? (this does not occur with any significant frequency in Canada).

Modifié par Hathur, 30 octobre 2011 - 02:14 .


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Some people like batarians. Some people hate them, but I think everyone agrees that the Hegemony needs to go.

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Hathur wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I'm sorry, but I have to ask: is this in any way related to real life?


By that I mean do you feel that way about "mixed families" in real life.


I was talking about Mass Effect, though I question the health of mixed families in real-life too considering the downsides faced by mixed societies.


:blink:

What backwater nation of primitives do you live in where this is a common occurence? 1900's USA?

Or is modern USA still like this? (this does not occur with any significant frequency in Canada).


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5. Blacks are twice as likely to commit hate crimes.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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I think it's kinda funny how a studio run by tolerance fanatics makes a race that serves no other purpose than to be hated as a whole. Makes me crack up.

Bioware.. tolerance fanatics? Where'd you get that?


All of the latent pandering.

Like what exactly..?

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RowanCF wrote...

Like what exactly..?


Them including features that the majority of the fanbase never asked for.

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Jellyfish Opera wrote...
Do people really dislike Batarians?

Do blue hedgehogs wear red sneakers?

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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Like what exactly..?


Them including features that the majority of the fanbase never asked for.

I suppose, yeah. But that's not really pandering, it's just trying to be commercially more viable which I'm also sort of dubious of. I always thought ME combat could use a little work over, especially in the first one, but after looking at the demos it looks a bit too much like GOW or something. The animations look less real and it zooms too much in on Shepard.  Some of it might just be that the game is still in progress. Overall combat looked a lot better than 2 and 1 though I'd say.

You're probably also thinking of multiplayer I'm guessing.

Modifié par RowanCF, 30 octobre 2011 - 02:47 .


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I suppose, yeah. But that's not really pandering, it's just trying to be commercially more viable which I'm also sort of dubious of. I always thought ME combat could use a little work over, especially in the first one, but after looking at the demos it looks a bit too much like GOW or something. The animations look less real and it zooms too much in on Shepard.  Some of it might just be that the game is still in progress. Overall combat looked a lot better than 2 and 1 though I'd say.

You're probably also thinking of multiplayer I'm guessing.


Not just those, other things as well.

And what if those things they're including to be "commercially more viable" turn away a bunch of their...original fans?

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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I suppose, yeah. But that's not really pandering, it's just trying to be commercially more viable which I'm also sort of dubious of. I always thought ME combat could use a little work over, especially in the first one, but after looking at the demos it looks a bit too much like GOW or something. The animations look less real and it zooms too much in on Shepard.  Some of it might just be that the game is still in progress. Overall combat looked a lot better than 2 and 1 though I'd say.

You're probably also thinking of multiplayer I'm guessing.


Not just those, other things as well.

And what if those things they're including to be "commercially more viable" turn away a bunch of their...original fans?

That's what I was also afraid of. But after looking at the demos I'm pretty confident that that won't happen, they looked pretty amazing. What other features were you thinking about?

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I am racist against irl batarians.

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It feels like I'm in the middle of a klan rally or skinhead meeting with all these anti-Batarian bigots.

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That's what I was also afraid of. But after looking at the demos I'm pretty confident that that won't happen, they looked pretty amazing. What other features were you thinking about?


I'll not mention them, don't want a flame war...just think about all the new features in the last six months.

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I am racist against irl batarians.

High-five!

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I'm not saying i'd wipe all the Batarians out, but its always nice to have some shock troops...

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Seboist wrote...

It feels like I'm in the middle of a klan rally or skinhead meeting with all these anti-Batarian bigots.


At least you're not at an anti-Vorcha rally. Aside from your avatar as evidence, we all know that you like Vorcha.

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Ravensword wrote...

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It feels like I'm in the middle of a klan rally or skinhead meeting with all these anti-Batarian bigots.


At least you're not at an anti-Vorcha rally. Aside from your avatar as evidence, we all know that you like Vorcha.


As much as I hate the Batarians, I'd happily burn an entire Vorcha colony/hive/whatever to the ground, killing every inhabitant within just to save a single Batarian life.

.. in saying that, I'd do the same to a Batarian colony if one looked at me wrong.

God I hate them so much.

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Hathur wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I'm sorry, but I have to ask: is this in any way related to real life?


By that I mean do you feel that way about "mixed families" in real life.


I was talking about Mass Effect, though I question the health of mixed families in real-life too considering the downsides faced by mixed societies.


:blink:

What backwater nation of primitives do you live in where this is a common occurence? 1900's USA?

Or is modern USA still like this? (this does not occur with any significant frequency in Canada).


Not outwardly, but yes. Suburbs and cities alike are kind of segregated due to status and economy, and many parents teach their children-- whether they mean to or not-- that their race is the race they should like. Mixed kids have it surprisingly hard, since they're torn between different races and thus different cultures.

My friend at work was made fun of when she was a child because her mommy was black and her daddy was white. I think it's always kind of been a sore spot for her.

Plus my family (bible belt) sadly still believes whites should stay with whites, etc. I don't believe this, but I know my dad, his dad, etc. all do. It still occurs.

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As much as I hate the Batarians, I'd happily burn an entire Vorcha colony/hive/whatever to the ground, killing every inhabitant within just to save a single Batarian life.

.. in saying that, I'd do the same to a Batarian colony if one looked at me wrong.

God I hate them so much.


That's...a little odd...


staindgrey wrote...

Not outwardly, but yes. Suburbs and cities alike are kind of segregated due to status and economy, and many parents teach their children-- whether they mean to or not-- that their race is the race they should like. Mixed kids have it surprisingly hard, since they're torn between different races and thus different cultures.

My friend at work was made fun of when she was a child because her mommy was black and her daddy was white. I think it's always kind of been a sore spot for her.

Plus my family (bible belt) sadly still believes whites should stay with whites, etc. I don't believe this, but I know my dad, his dad, etc. all do. It still occurs.


As a half and half, I can nod along to this.

Modifié par EternalAmbiguity, 30 octobre 2011 - 03:06 .


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Them Batarians took my job!

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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That's what I was also afraid of. But after looking at the demos I'm pretty confident that that won't happen, they looked pretty amazing. What other features were you thinking about?


I'll not mention them, don't want a flame war...just think about all the new features in the last six months.

Kinect? Yeah I hear you there. Weapon customization? I don't know, that doesn't sound so bad to me. Can't think of much else off the top of my head.

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Them Batarians took my job!


Dey took yer job?

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Batarians as individual characters are pretty okay dudes. I like most of the batarian NPCs, who tend to be either rather decent fellows despite a life of crime or such dirtbags it's entertaining.

I do, however, hate the Hegemony as a sociopolitical entity.