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[Mr.Pink]

If the Genophage gets cured, the Krogan. If the Geth decide to put all of their forces into something, them. The Turians all round, if they commit everything. The Humans after them. Then the Asari and Salarians are tied. Then Batarians, Hanar(Drell included), Volus, Elcor, Vorcha.

[Saaziel]

Golden Owl wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Saaziel wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Asari:
1.) Encouraged to breed with those outside their own species...pure blood stigma.
2.) Attractive to all other species.
3.) Long life span...how many partners would one Asari have in a life time?
4.) Seem to already have the most substantial population...most of which look outside their species for partners.
Taking these points into account, I'm thinking they may eventually out breed every other species out there.

Not really an issue with cloning and genetic engineering/ modifications.

It's a huge issue. It is social imperialism.

What Saphra says....plus in regards to cloning, it's already well known a copy is always a weaker version of the original and I can't see how that would change, it makes perfect sense...so I would think cloning and it's related methods would not adequately address the problem.

That's why i said Cloning and genetic modifications ;Longer life spans and Health , increased fertility , altering receptors Asari use to appear attractive (Whatever those maybe) Its something we ought to do anyways, regardless of Asari.

Also this "it's already well known a copy is always a weaker version of the original" makes no sense. A copy is just that ; A copy . Its the same. There is no inherent weakness in a clone even with slight genetic mutations what would have occurred in natural procreation anyway.

There is no problem with Asari speciation so long as Humans shore up the numbers ... if thats even an issue to beging with.

Modifié par Saaziel, 30 octobre 2011 - 12:58 .

[Golden Owl]

Saaziel some information on cloning and it's issues: www.ornl.gov/hgmis/elsi/cloning.shtml

[Zakatak757]

Batarians of course.

Not because they are technologically advanced, because they aren't and would be stomped by any Alliance ship any day of the week, but because they have an angry totalitarian government that is just looking for ANY half-decent reason to attack humanity.

And thanks to Shepard, now they have it.

Modifié par Zakatak757, 30 octobre 2011 - 01:07 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

Asari for reasons already stated.

[Golden Owl]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Honestly, it's kind of a moot point (regarding the asari). The proliferation of Reaper tech will change everything to the point that the galaxy will barely be recognizable.

Oh god I hope not....

[robarcool]

Humans pose the greatest threat after the reapers. Actually, humans (Shepard) will be the ones ultimately responsible for reapers' destruction, so humans pose a threat to other species including reapers!

[slimgrin]

Humans.

[Saaziel]

Golden Owl wrote...

Saaziel some information on cloning and it's issues: www.ornl.gov/hgmis/elsi/cloning.shtml

There is a difference between our current understanding in cloning and what can be induced from the Mass effect universe which is set almost 200 years in the future.

Miranda Lawson & her sister are the perfect (Pun intended) example of things done right. Cerberus operatives in ME3 , if rumours hold true, would also be examples of successful human cloning. I suppose its really up to the writers , but for my say ; if you can resurrect the dead , you can clone the living.

Edit : Also Okeer's had a functioning cloning facility. So i think Cloning is fairly well established in the Mass effect universe.

Modifié par Saaziel, 30 octobre 2011 - 03:33 .

[Kaptain Darkfist]

Chuck Norris...but only because he's letting the Reapers be the galaxy's biggest threat

[Siansonea]

Ponies!  They'll subjugate the others through sheer cuteness! 

[Golden Owl]

Saaziel wrote...

There is a difference between our current understanding in cloning and what can be induced in the Mass effect universe since this is set almost 200 years in the future.

Miranda Lawson # her sister are the perfect (Pun intended) example of things done right. Cerberus operative , if rumours hold true, would also be examples of successful human cloning. I suppose its really up to the writers , but for my say ; if you can resurrect the dead , you can clone the living.

Miranda is also sterile (major drawback) and clearly upset at the news....I would also personally consider Shep to be genetically weaker in his resurrected state, than he originally was.

Modifié par Golden Owl, 30 octobre 2011 - 01:26 .

[maxmorris]

Give it a few years and the sith will be taking over. (damnit spoiler alert for ME4 :S sorry guys..)

[Saaziel]

Golden Owl wrote...

Miranda is also sterile (major drawback) and clearly upset at the news....I would also personally consider Shep to be genetically weaker in his resurrected state, than he originally was.

Its not a drawback if you can clone any number of individuals. More over what she lacks in reproductive capability she makes up for it in every other departments. By the time she's 185 we might be able to cure her infertility and add an other 250 years to her life span.

Shep's genetic state isn't the issue i was referring to . Simply pointing out that it would be impossible to raise the dead in our times, but its feasible then, so why not cloning if some scientists believe the problem encountered in cloning are only a matter of execution (Paraphrasing the link you posted).

Moreover , even if we'd categorically eliminate the idea of cloning in the Mass effect universe; Asaris bare the child in the partnership (As far as i can tell). With proper population policies we can effectively guarantee our numbers as if there never was Asari to begin with.

Edit; Make me wonder if Miranda could foster a child with an Asari. And how many children can Asari bare in a life time.

Modifié par Saaziel, 30 octobre 2011 - 01:37 .

[Jog0907]

saaziel you got to count than miranda was an expensive experiment, only one and later two of many attempts that went wrong and thats counting the large amount of funds the project had (her father being a millionaire), even in mass effect cloning is really expensive and bound to give problems

[CrazyCatDude]

Golden Owl wrote...

Saaziel wrote...

There is a difference between our current understanding in cloning and what can be induced in the Mass effect universe since this is set almost 200 years in the future.

Miranda Lawson # her sister are the perfect (Pun intended) example of things done right. Cerberus operative , if rumours hold true, would also be examples of successful human cloning. I suppose its really up to the writers , but for my say ; if you can resurrect the dead , you can clone the living.

Miranda is also sterile (major drawback) and clearly upset at the news....I would also personally consider Shep to be genetically weaker in his resurrected state, than he originally was.

How is Shepard "genetically weaker"?  In fact, that the heck does that even mean?  Shepard's DNA hasn't been altered in any way that we know of.  If it had, that would have run contrary to the entire point of the Lazarus project, which was to bring back Shepard *as she was*.

[Rokku-X]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Saaziel wrote...

Edit; Make me wonder if Miranda could foster a child with an Asari. And how many children can Asari bare in a life time.

Of-course she could... but it wouldn't be her child. Children born from asari/alien "unions" are 100% asari. In essence, if an asari tries to make you claim parenthood you should tell her to bugger off because it isn't your kid.

The ultimate get out of jail free card in regards to paternity, eh?

[Jog0907]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Miranda wasn't just cloned though. A lot of stuff was done to create her.

true a lot was indeed added that couldve given the problems that occured, it still seems to me that mass cloning of any level its problematic even for the level of tech in mass effect. I think theres isnt enough info to say something definite and the game seems to lean mostly on the "cloning is hard" way imo

Modifié par Jog0907, 30 octobre 2011 - 01:49 .

[RyuGuitarFreak]

Humans.

Geth in second place.

Then krogans. Controlled with the genophage. If cured, another rebellion should happen.