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[GMagnum]

give dat shepard a full beard n put him on his original body n he'd look like a futuristic fabio

[l7986]

When the ass shot scene first appeared on my tv I was like wow nice butt. But then right after that I thought maybe the camera had decided to just go off and do its own thing.

[magelet]

I'd like her to have armor. It never seemed to fit her personality as a competent operative when she was wearing a latex catsuit. :/

[Laser Jim]

GMagnum wrote...

give dat shepard a full beard n put him on his original body n he'd look like a futuristic fabio

But...Fabio doesn't have a beard...

[GMagnum]

Laser Jim wrote...

GMagnum wrote...

give dat shepard a full beard n put him on his original body n he'd look like a futuristic fabio

But...Fabio doesn't have a beard...

i mean he'd but like hella hunk status like fabio - tho i shoulda worded dat better i guess

[Merchant2006]

GMagnum wrote...

Laser Jim wrote...

GMagnum wrote...

give dat shepard a full beard n put him on his original body n he'd look like a futuristic fabio

But...Fabio doesn't have a beard...

i mean he'd but like hella hunk status like fabio - tho i shoulda worded dat better i guess

Your posts never cease to entertain me.

[onelifecrisis]

jreezy wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

BSN I am disappoint. I come in this thread expecting concept/fan art and all I get is a love/hate thread. SMH

Why is that seemingly unnecessary wording popular on here? It just sounds stupid to me.

Maybe it's a 4chan thing?

[ArMedSuRViVoR]

Ashley > Miranda

Ashley is a hell-of-alot more kind person and has a better personality. You might say "URGHH. Ashley's racist!" Miranda ISN'T racist??? In most of ME2 she is PURE Cerberus. Cerberus are an anti-alien group. Has no-one noticed this? 

[Ofcoursenot]

Never liked miranda. All she managed to do was be snobby. Fanservice was pretty obvious. And she failed epically at replacing Kaidan as Sentinel.

But, hey, if the fans want her back then fine. But I doubt it, since Ashely will be returning if she lived and story-wise Miri was intended to be the replacement female LI.

[Ofcoursenot]

ArMedSuRViVoR wrote...

Ashley > Miranda

Ashley is a @#!*% -of-alot more kind person and has a better personality. You might say "URGHH. Ashley's racist!" Miranda ISN'T racist??? In most of ME2 she is PURE Cerberus. Cerberus are an anti-alien group. Has no-one noticed this? 

Surprisingly, you're probably wrong. I distincly remember Miranda saying she is not racist. Also, I doubt she's a xenophobe, since most of her reason for joining cerberus was escaping her father.

[GMagnum]

sometime wen no1 lookin i like to squeeze my chest together n pretend im a girl

[SNascimento]

Ofcoursenot wrote...

Never liked miranda. All she managed to do was be snobby. Fanservice was pretty obvious. And she failed epically at replacing Kaidan as Sentinel.

But, hey, if the fans want her back then fine. But I doubt it, since Ashely will be returning if she lived and story-wise Miri was intended to be the replacement female LI.

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Don't understand that.... I mean, she was the best squadmate in ME2. Could you elaborate? 

[naledgeborn]

SNascimento wrote...

Ofcoursenot wrote...

Never liked miranda. All she managed to do was be snobby. Fanservice was pretty obvious. And she failed epically at replacing Kaidan as Sentinel.

But, hey, if the fans want her back then fine. But I doubt it, since Ashely will be returning if she lived and story-wise Miri was intended to be the replacement female LI.

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Don't understand that.... I mean, she was the best squadmate in ME2. Could you elaborate? 

Nao e necessario., Obvious hater is obvious.

[The_11thDoctor]

People do realize that Miranda was super covered up in ME2 right? It sounds like no one's been outside there house before... Is there no one comfortable with their body or seeing others bodies? Girls run around with see through tops, skirts that barely cover themselves, no panties and bras, tons of cleavage etc and none of them ****s. Just comfortable with showing skin or being sexy. No one I know complains or sees it as anything other than normal. Here people act like they never seeing a outfit that's form fitting before. No gyms or fitness centers or attractive women in anyone's part of the world? I thought she had too much on personally. She's a Biotic and she's perfect. Perfect people don't get shot, so heavy armor is useless. She's a light armor type of girl. Guess people who didnt play ME1 wouldn't understand that concept... Remember when ME had didnt armor types? Back when it had more RPG in the shooter? As long as Miranda is back and romancible, it's all good.

[MisterJB]

ArMedSuRViVoR wrote...
 You might say "URGHH. Ashley's racist!" Miranda ISN'T racist??? In most of ME2 she is PURE Cerberus. Cerberus are an anti-alien group. Has no-one noticed this? 

Being pro-human does not equal anti-alien. She expresses disgust at how many join Cerberus out of xenophobia which, by itself, should be enough to prove she does not hate aliens. But here's more:
Miranda respects the Asari culture and claims humanity could learn from them.
One of the only people in the Galaxy who knows about Oriana is an asari.
She says "Relax, we're here to help you" to the salarians trapped in Nassana's tower.
She speaks of human protection and advancement while TIM talks about domination.

The rest of your post was personal opinion so I chose not to adress it.

Modifié par MisterJB, 01 novembre 2011 - 11:34 .

[DxWill10]

I don't mind if she has armor (or only armor), so long as when she's on the normandy she has a suit like in ME2!

[capn233]

Xeranx wrote...

I don't exactly mean it that way.  TIM is her employer, yes, but I'm implying (poorly) that TIM looks like a surrogate.  At least to me he does.  Miranda went from one megalomaniac to another. 

I'm not sure there is much in the game to support that.  Either way really.  We only have one interaction between Miri and TIM on the screen, and it is pretty short and professional.  I don't think Miri goes to TIM for validation.  I imagine she keeps up her aire of confidence, like in all her professional interactions.

1. It's fine if they get on each other's nerves, but Miranda should know better.  Odd that we are able to tell her that too depending on whose side we take in the confrontation.  If harmony on the ship is supposed to be the thing to help complete the mission then she's not completing one main aspect of the mission parameters.  In fact, she's doing her best to destroy the team from that angle.  She's 35 compared to Jack's 20-something (26?).  Almost a 10 year difference and she can't act better than a "kid"?  After that is when I really start losing respect for her.

Eh, I suppose her social interactions leave something to be desired.  But considering Jack barged into her office looking for a fight I don't know that I can hold one little comment against her.  And she was more or less right that creating a super biotic sociopath was a mistake.  She wasn't going around the ship picking fights with people though.  Though I would imagine she isn't going around being warm and making small talk either.  It also wasn't like Jack was likely to forgive a Cerberus lifer no matter how nice Miranda was anyway.  Shep has the advantage of not really being Cerberus.  He also invests a good deal of time in her, if you choose to do that.

2. Of course Miranda would give good results.  It's what she was bred for, but I can't believe that she was promoted solely based on that.  Being able to get close to TIM has to be a coveted aspect of working for Cerberus, and Miranda's right there able to offer her ideas on various topics and have them agreed with or denied. 

Perhaps but also not knowable.  All the in game evidence supports that fact that she was promoted on merrit more or less alone.

So what this all means is that Miranda is an asset.  Unfortunately given her past, she is one that has to be cultivated.  Miranda more than likely feels that she's nothing but a collection of cells to her father whereas with TIM, she feels she's recognized for what she has to offer.  To a certain degree that is true, but TIM has to walk a fine line to reinforce a sense of independence in Miranda for her to be a better individual which leads to a sense of good will between herself and TIM.  Ironically that sounds like the same indoctrination Saren mentioned.  If TIM guides her hand too much she becomes useless.  However, if TIM gives Miranda the idea that she's actually affecting change on any project she's working for, it makes her more productive and she'll work harder to prove that she's worth any attention she gets.  That doesn't necessarily mean she's independent, but it's that illusion that helps.  

Or maybe I'm giving TIM too much credit and Miranda not enough.  Since Miranda's not a real person we can't see what she might do, but everything I've said is the vibe I'm getting.

You are right that she recognizes that her father doesn't really care for her in any meaningful way.  She does know that Cerberus and TIM recognized her potential.  She states she is in Cerberus because she is able to run cutting edge projects ("because I still envy the time Mordin spent in STG.... They don'y say something is impossible, they say do it").  None of this really implies that she is not emotionally independent, or that she is emotionally dependent on TIM.

3. I believe Miranda actually claims that her father makes donations to Cerberus.  I don't remember her saying he makes donations to any number of companies that serve as fronts for Cerberus, but you're right that my statement could be premature and Miranda's statement was probably done for expediency.

He was a Cerberus patron, she states that.  That is how she knew of Cerberus.

4. I don't think Miranda being the daughter of the richest man would mean she'd be easily recognizable.  Miranda says she is one of many or that she is the first one her father kept.  Given that and Oriana, I don't know if I can safely say that Miranda doesn't have an older sister out there who actually is working with her father in the same way Miranda's father would have wanted her to work with him.  So I'm unsure if Miranda is even known and then connected to her father.  Niket knew, but now he's dead.  Those that came to "retrieve" Oriana are dead as well.  So who knows.

She is the first one that he kept.  The statement was "I wasn't the first one he grew, just the first one he kept."  I always took that to mean the others were terminated.  It isn't really spelled out.

Modifié par capn233, 02 novembre 2011 - 03:39 .

[TheRealJayDee]

aang001 wrote...

People do realize that Miranda was super covered up in ME2 right? It sounds like no one's been outside there house before... Is there no one comfortable with their body or seeing others bodies? Girls run around with see through tops, skirts that barely cover themselves, no panties and bras, tons of cleavage etc and none of them ****s. Just comfortable with showing skin or being sexy. No one I know complains or sees it as anything other than normal. Here people act like they never seeing a outfit that's form fitting before. No gyms or fitness centers or attractive women in anyone's part of the world?

Well, let's just say that summer is my favourite time of the year. Then again, a lot of us are not saying we don't like to see attractive women wearing revealing clothes, but we find it slightly ridiculous if they do so in a frickin war zone or in space!

aang001 wrote...

She's a Biotic and she's perfect. Perfect people don't get shot, so heavy armor is useless.

Ah, okay, now I finally begin to understand...

Modifié par TheRealJayDee, 02 novembre 2011 - 03:58 .

[mjh417]

I loved her armor from the appearance pack

[Obadiah]

Miranda's outfit would have been fine if it fit the context. If Shep and everyone else, hard-bodies that they are, could slip on some revealing "armor" it would at least make Miranda and Samara seem less like cheap plays for attention.

[InvincibleHero]

Armor issue again. People need to lay it to rest. BW created the characters and decides who they look and react in their universe. People just want their preferences to rule in a selfish desire. It would be great if they could allow a choice for everyone to do their thing, but to save resources they make one look and that's it.

Your preference for all armor goes against BW's choice and the people that prefer the way BW did make the characters. Selfish much?

Besides armor in ME2 didn't mean anything Krogan have it because they don't have shields, but it should be inferior but it operates like a KB would by recharging. Please don't quote realism if no armor breaks immersion when someone is using a keyboard and mouse while sitting down and looking on a monitor of 20 some inches or less and thinks what is happening in front of them is real well then houston there is a problem. There are far worse breaks from reality in the game.

Armor is not very effective against weapons of such power in ME. The novels illustrate that. One hole should leave your suit ventoing your air and letting toxins and rads and whatvere else in. So then to be realistic you should have to finish the mission in say 2 minutes before you die or reload right? So don't claim it is for realism then. It is your preferences period.

BTW if they decide to armor everyone up I won't whine and moan about it. BW creator right or fiat to decide. I can guarantee if most of the want armor group will complain again and again if they don't get their way.

[Iakus]

InvincibleHero wrote...

Armor issue again. People need to lay it to rest. BW created the characters and decides who they look and react in their universe. People just want their preferences to rule in a selfish desire. It would be great if they could allow a choice for everyone to do their thing, but to save resources they make one look and that's it.

How dare we have an opinion?  For shame!

Your preference for all armor goes against BW's choice and the people that prefer the way BW did make the characters. Selfish much?

Consitency in a series!  Again I am ashamed for having such unreasonably high expectations!

Armor is not very effective against weapons of such power in ME. The novels illustrate that. One hole should leave your suit ventoing your air and letting toxins and rads and whatvere else in. So then to be realistic you should have to finish the mission in say 2 minutes before you die or reload right? So don't claim it is for realism then. It is your preferences period.

It's a good thing nobody asked for complete realism, then.  Just the appearance of protection against fire, radiation, toxins,  fisticuffs.  You know, the stuff kinetic barriers don't protect people from.  But then, asking for consistency's a bad thing.

[InvincibleHero]

iakus wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...

Armor issue again. People need to lay it to rest. BW created the characters and decides who they look and react in their universe. People just want their preferences to rule in a selfish desire. It would be great if they could allow a choice for everyone to do their thing, but to save resources they make one look and that's it.

How dare we have an opinion?  For shame!

Your preference for all armor goes against BW's choice and the people that prefer the way BW did make the characters. Selfish much?

Consitency in a series!  Again I am ashamed for having such unreasonably high expectations!

Armor is not very effective against weapons of such power in ME. The novels illustrate that. One hole should leave your suit ventoing your air and letting toxins and rads and whatvere else in. So then to be realistic you should have to finish the mission in say 2 minutes before you die or reload right? So don't claim it is for realism then. It is your preferences period.

It's a good thing nobody asked for complete realism, then.  Just the appearance of protection against fire, radiation, toxins,  fisticuffs.  You know, the stuff kinetic barriers don't protect people from.  But then, asking for consistency's a bad thing.

Read the ME 2 codex it says does not protect against extremes of heat, toxins, and radiation. BW did not define extremes and yet they emphatically state Jack can survive every situation in the game with no harm. Several spots in the game state KBs keep a small atmosphere within them. (See citadel) So who's right you or the people that made the game and created everything ME? Well?

I would love it if Cerberus has a grenade that eats armor because you know why wouldn't it be created since it is ceramics and metals and cloth weaves with dubious protective qualities at best. It is basically magic armor.

[Iakus]

InvincibleHero wrote...

Read the ME 2 codex it says does not protect against extremes of heat, toxins, and radiation. BW did not define extremes and yet they emphatically state Jack can survive every situation in the game with no harm. Several spots in the game state KBs keep a small atmosphere within them. (See citadel) So who's right you or the people that made the game and created everything ME? Well?

I would love it if Cerberus has a grenade that eats armor because you know why wouldn't it be created since it is ceramics and metals and cloth weaves with dubious protective qualities at best. It is basically magic armor.

Primary codex entry on armor:

Combat hard-suits use a dual-layer system to protect the wearer. The inner layer consists of fabric armor with kinetic padding. Areas that don't need to be flexible, such as the chest or shins, are reinforced with sheets of lightweight ablative ceramic.

The outer layer consists of automatically-generated kinetic barriers. Objects traveling above a certain speed will trigger the barrier's reflex system and be deflected, provided there is enough energy left in the shield's power cell

Armored hard-suits are sealable to protect the wearer from extremes of temperature and atmosphere. Standard equipment includes an onboard mini-frame and a communications, navigation, and sensing suite. The mini-frame is designed to accept and display data from a weapon's smart targeting system to make it easier to locate and eliminate enemies.


Scondary codex entry on armor:

Modern combat hard-suits have a "triple canopy" of protection: shields, armor, and self-repair. The outermost layer is created through kinetic barrier emitters, which detect objects incoming at a high rate of speed and generate deflecting "shields" provided they have enough energy in their power cells.If a bullet or other incoming object gets past the barrier, it contends with the more traditional body armor. A sealed suit of non-porous ballistic cloth provides kinetic and environmental protection, reinforced by lightweight composite ceramic plates in areas that either don't need to flex or require additional coverage, such as the chest and head. When the armor is hit by directed energy weapons, the plates boil away or ablate rather than burning the wearer.The last level of protection is provided by the suit's microframe computers, whose input detectors are woven throughout the fabric. These manage the self-healing system, which finds rents in the fabric and, assuming any such tear would wound the flesh underneath, seals the area off with sterile, non-conductive medi-gel. This stanches minor wounds and plugs holes in the suit that could prove fatal in vacuum or toxic environments. Soldiers are not always fond of the "squish skin" that oozes gel on them at a moment's notice, but fatalities have dropped sharply since the system was implemented.
As for barriers holding in atmosphere:  That may be how the Citadel's barriers word, but not how the portable ones used as personal protection operate:

Kinetic barriers are repulsive mass effect fields projected from tiny emitters. These shields safely deflect small objects traveling at rapid velocities. This affords protection from bullets and other dangerous projectiles, but still allows the user to sit down without knocking away their chair.

A stationary chair can get through the barrier.  How's it going to hold in atmosphere?

Edit:  And I agree:  armor eating weapons would make for a cool addition.  It would make for more interesting fighting mechanics than "blue hitpoints/red hit points"

Modifié par iakus, 02 novembre 2011 - 05:49 .