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So the question is simple. Are you willing to accept a few spoilers to see more RPG elements ?


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I want to see parts of the story

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 Yes.  I want to know this game is worth paying full price for.

And I'm sure it can be done without spoiling things.

 We know all surviving characters are coming back in some form.  So why not show some concept art?  (unless their new appearance is itself a spoiler)

We know planet scanning is going to be different somehow, so lets see an example

Why not show part of a side mission?  Something that demonstrates combat, conversation, interrupts, or whatever without spoiling the main storyline?

More info on workbenches, modding, armor customization

How about info on the new "no import" decision making system?

In other words, something besides shooting, stabbing, exploding people , and "OMG Multiplayer!"

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A trailer showing Shepard driving the Mako around, or having a conversation with some random barkeep, would not interest me in the slightest.

I am fine not getting spoiled and only having combat related trailers, because I know things like the conversation wheel, armor and weapon mods, etc...will still be there. I want ME3 to be a game where coming in to it, I cannot reasonably guess as to what will happen in it.

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Story trailer please. With dialogue from Reapers

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iakus wrote...

 Yes.  I want to know this game is worth paying full price for.

And I'm sure it can be done without spoiling things.

 We know all surviving characters are coming back in some form.  So why not show some concept art?  (unless their new appearance is itself a spoiler)

We know planet scanning is going to be different somehow, so lets see an example

Why not show part of a side mission?  Something that demonstrates combat, conversation, interrupts, or whatever without spoiling the main storyline?

More info on workbenches, modding, armor customization

How about info on the new "no import" decision making system?

In other words, something besides shooting, stabbing, exploding people , and "OMG Multiplayer!"


I'm gonna roll with this answer.  Bioware currently has my ME3 pre-order based only on my experience with their past games, which I consider to be pretty enjoyable. But as you've said multiple times, if I hadn't known before-hand that this were a Bioware game, I probably wouldn't be interested at all in what I've seen. It really has been the same stuff shown repeatedly.  

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iakus wrote...

 Yes.  I want to know this game is worth paying full price for.

And I'm sure it can be done without spoiling things.

 We know all surviving characters are coming back in some form.  So why not show some concept art?  (unless their new appearance is itself a spoiler)

We know planet scanning is going to be different somehow, so lets see an example

Why not show part of a side mission?  Something that demonstrates combat, conversation, interrupts, or whatever without spoiling the main storyline?

More info on workbenches, modding, armor customization

How about info on the new "no import" decision making system?

In other words, something besides shooting, stabbing, exploding people , and "OMG Multiplayer!"

Stuff like this would be good, but I think it's the sort of thing we'll be seeing closer to release.  You know, when all the little details are nice and polished.

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Nope. I can already see the combat will be better than ever so all they have to do is knock the story out of the park and I'd rather not have that spoiled. It's probably too late to change anything major anyway.

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iakus wrote...

 Yes.  I want to know this game is worth paying full price for.

And I'm sure it can be done without spoiling things.

 We know all surviving characters are coming back in some form.  So why not show some concept art?  (unless their new appearance is itself a spoiler)

We know planet scanning is going to be different somehow, so lets see an example

Why not show part of a side mission?  Something that demonstrates combat, conversation, interrupts, or whatever without spoiling the main storyline?

More info on workbenches, modding, armor customization

How about info on the new "no import" decision making system?

In other words, something besides shooting, stabbing, exploding people , and "OMG Multiplayer!"

Add new vehicle exploration to that and it's perfect! Show us BioWare! :wizard:

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iakus wrote...

 Yes.  I want to know this game is worth paying full price for.

And I'm sure it can be done without spoiling things.

 We know all surviving characters are coming back in some form.  So why not show some concept art?  (unless their new appearance is itself a spoiler)

We know planet scanning is going to be different somehow, so lets see an example

Why not show part of a side mission?  Something that demonstrates combat, conversation, interrupts, or whatever without spoiling the main storyline?

More info on workbenches, modding, armor customization

How about info on the new "no import" decision making system?

In other words, something besides shooting, stabbing, exploding people , and "OMG Multiplayer!"


This.


Also I don't really care about spoilers too much so long as they aren't major ones. Technically knowing there's a Krogan Princess and Cerberus is an enemy are fairly significant spoilers. Would it really kill us to see a few other level segments from a 40+ hour game? (Be nice if we saw squadmates besides Garrus and Liara too at some point.)

I don't really care about spoilers unless the stuff is meant to be surprise. I mean knowing Archangel was Garrus didn't really hamper my ME2 experience as even in-game it's pretty obvious. Now if we're talking about spoilers like knowing all the Geth aren't all bad that's a different story. Really you should only avoid big spoilers like: LOL YOU ARE REVAN!

As Darth Vader would say: Spoilers do not concern me Admiral. I want to see ME3 - not excuses.

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I vote for more RPG reveals, regardless of potential spoilers.

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Skip the vehicle segments and focus on things that actually matters instead.

The Mako was boring, the Hammerhead had armor made out of paper and the only thing I enjoyed driving was the damn taxi in LotSB.

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alex90c wrote...

They can't show choice without spoiling the game.

We've seen customisation (weapons) and learnt we can customise our armours (stats at least).

We've seen dialogue with an NPC (kid in vents who then got completely wasted by a Reaper)

I say Bioware keep with what they're doing, because it avoids giving out too many spoilers.


Indeed. I'm very happy with the small amount of spoilers shown thus far, hope BioWare keeps it up and doesn't reveal anything about the story right until launch. 

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No. Keep spoilers out of ME3 promotions.

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onelifecrisis wrote...

"So the question is simple. Are you willing to accept a few spoilers to see more RPG elements?"

No.


No for me as well.

If Bioware releases a trailer that reveals some diologue or story elements, I'm not going to watch and avoid coming to these forums until after the game is released. Sadly, if Bioware does release a trailer that contains a few spoilers the only way to protect yourself from being spoiled would be to avoid the forums. Because more than one idiot will post the spoilers you avoided watching in the trailer in thread titles.

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Mass Effect is an Action RPG, so if look on gameplay, this will look like: 
Action- shooter elements of the game
RPG- story- choses you make, world that you discover, character that you interact with and a lot more of game elements.

In the same situation, if switch Shepard weapon gun on sword with same gameplay. I'm sure theres nobody saying that Mass Effect is a shooter

Soooo, NO i don`t need spoilers to see more RPG elements  :innocent:

Modifié par don-mika, 30 octobre 2011 - 07:58 .


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Gosh if they don't have at least something spoiled the trailers are gonna be so dead.

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Honestly, we can't any get less RPG elements then in ME2 - and still I enjoyed that game a lot. So while I'd apprechiate a closer look at, say, weapon/armor customisation, please, no spoilers about anything story related.

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iakus wrote...

 Yes.  I want to know this game is worth paying full price for.

And I'm sure it can be done without spoiling things.

 We know all surviving characters are coming back in some form.  So why not show some concept art?  (unless their new appearance is itself a spoiler)

We know planet scanning is going to be different somehow, so lets see an example

Why not show part of a side mission?  Something that demonstrates combat, conversation, interrupts, or whatever without spoiling the main storyline?

More info on workbenches, modding, armor customization

How about info on the new "no import" decision making system?

In other words, something besides shooting, stabbing, exploding people , and "OMG Multiplayer!"

Iakus nailed it.

It's frustrating how closemouthed the devs are about anything besides combat and multiplayer. Seriously. That can't be everything there is.

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I don't want to see anything that qualifies as a major spoiler just because someone is concerned that the only exposure to the game they've had involves action. I somehow doubt that BW suddenly yanked every conversational option out of the game and eliminated all our choices. If they show some short conversation from early in the game that can manage to satisfy the "concerned" group without giving away the story or anything important, that wouldn't bother me - just do not want major spoilers, especially not after those trolls on the forums managed to ruin things on ME2's launch day (and those kinds of people seem to act earlier & earlier - probably avoiding the forums for a week before launch and until after I'm done with it).

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IsaacShep wrote...

iakus wrote...

 Yes.  I want to know this game is worth paying full price for.

And I'm sure it can be done without spoiling things.

 We know all surviving characters are coming back in some form.  So why not show some concept art?  (unless their new appearance is itself a spoiler)

We know planet scanning is going to be different somehow, so lets see an example

Why not show part of a side mission?  Something that demonstrates combat, conversation, interrupts, or whatever without spoiling the main storyline?

More info on workbenches, modding, armor customization

How about info on the new "no import" decision making system?

In other words, something besides shooting, stabbing, exploding people , and "OMG Multiplayer!"

Add new vehicle exploration to that and it's perfect! Show us BioWare! :wizard:


I would have included that in the list, but I don't know if such a thing will exist in ME3.  Can't show what's not in the game, right?  ;)

I know some people were spoiled by stuff from ME2's advertising, but really, they've ridiculously overcompensated..  Mass Effect is almost unrecognizable as a Bioware game in the ads so far.  

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iakus wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

iakus wrote...

 Yes.  I want to know this game is worth paying full price for.

And I'm sure it can be done without spoiling things.

 We know all surviving characters are coming back in some form.  So why not show some concept art?  (unless their new appearance is itself a spoiler)

We know planet scanning is going to be different somehow, so lets see an example

Why not show part of a side mission?  Something that demonstrates combat, conversation, interrupts, or whatever without spoiling the main storyline?

More info on workbenches, modding, armor customization

How about info on the new "no import" decision making system?

In other words, something besides shooting, stabbing, exploding people , and "OMG Multiplayer!"

Add new vehicle exploration to that and it's perfect! Show us BioWare! :wizard:


I would have included that in the list, but I don't know if such a thing will exist in ME3.  Can't show what's not in the game, right?  ;)

I know some people were spoiled by stuff from ME2's advertising, but really, they've ridiculously overcompensated..  Mass Effect is almost unrecognizable as a Bioware game in the ads so far.  


I agree 100% with this. It does seem unrecognizable, and I wonder how much of the story has be compromised by multiplayer and the focus continuing to go to the shooting.

Shooting....the least reason I fell in love with ME.

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marshalleck wrote...

 Those weren't put out for ME2 until shortly before the game's release, and besides, did they ever give an ironclad promise they'd make some for ME3?


They did similar ones for ME1 as well, just without narration.  Example:

http://masseffect.bi...pt_1280x720.mov

So, it's actually a pretty reasonable expectation for people to have.

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No I'm good. When it comes to BioWare I expect to not be disappointed so I have no need for reassurances or anything like that.

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iakus wrote...

I would have included that in the list, but I don't know if such a thing will exist in ME3.  Can't show what's not in the game, right?  ;)

It is. They've been asked about vehicle stuff at least twice and answered both times "we ain't talking about this now" which in BioWare PR lingo means "it's in but we plan to reveal it later". If they get asked about something that's not in, they always say it openly. I have no doubts and I can't wait to see how they're handling the vehicle in ME3 :D

Modifié par IsaacShep, 31 octobre 2011 - 01:14 .


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Only thing minor I would want to see is a random conversation with someone who isn't important, just showing us the new conversation wheel and to see if the animation of gestures and emotions is a bit better. Other than that, no. Shush. Don't tell me.