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[didymos1120]

wizardryforever wrote...

Oh, and to those who keep using the term supernova: the star isn't big enough to go supernova. 

Yeah, that's true: Dholen is exactly one solar mass.  Not nearly large enough.

[didymos1120]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

However, we do have several guesses what dark energy/dark matter is exactly. In each and every one of those guesses, they are expected to permeate the apparently empty spaces between observable galaxies - called Dark Space in the ME universe.

Actually, dark energy is generally expected to be everywhere, and more or less uniformly so, not just in intergalactic space, though in some versions of the idea its density can vary.  Dark matter is expected to be concentrated like normal matter because it interacts gravitationally.

Modifié par didymos1120, 31 octobre 2011 - 12:46 .

[Anacronian Stryx]

Slight nitpick - Dark energy is believed to occupy ever unit of space not occupied by matter, between galaxies but also between stars and planets inside a galaxy(which makes a galaxy consist of 99% dark energy as well).

Edit : Ninja'd

Modifié par Anacronian Stryx, 31 octobre 2011 - 12:51 .

[Anacronian Stryx]

But we know the reapers have element zero cores, we even blew one up?

And if we were to believe vigil the reapers harvest resources, technology and the biological thing was added in ME 2.

Modifié par Anacronian Stryx, 31 octobre 2011 - 01:06 .

[Anacronian Stryx]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

But we know the reapers have element zero cores, we even blew one up?

And if we were to believe vigil the reapers harvest resources, technology and the biological thing was added in ME 2.

If Reapers's energy source depends on visible galaxies, it would be very hard to explain why they chill in Dark Space for the marjority of their lifetime.

No not really, they hibernate to pass time until the next cycle is about to begin and they hibernate in dark space to be sure they are left alone while doing so, Don't really see anything hard to explain about that.

 

It would be like a flock of sheep hibernating in the desert for most of the year and moving to graze on the nearby prairie only one week out of every year. Also, according to Sovereign, their lifespan is longer than or comparable to that of galaxies.

where do Sovereign state such a thing??

 It would be terribly dangerous and stupid not to look for alternative food resources elsewhere, and just wait for the current one to run out.

there is nothing indicating that the reapers need food/energy of any kind, being that dark energy nor anything else.

What we do know from BioWare is much more reasonable, that Reapers depend on visible galaxies and their lifeforms for reproduction, and reproduction only.

No true, first of all nothing indicates that they "depend" on anything and secondly you cant claim that they all they want is reproduction when Vigil clearly states that the reapers Harvest all resources and all technology.

 A lot of animals on Earth do similar things. Many fish migrate across great distances from their usual feeding ground (Dark Space) to a spawning location (The Galaxy) in order to reproduce. I'd even say that there's a >90% probability that BioWare writers took inspirations from reproductive migrations of fishes. Reproduction for such a long-lived speices as the Reapers would be a grand and unsual event, one which happens only rarely - and that is exactly what we've known so far.

Actually it's well known that Bioware took their inspiration for the reapers from the cthulhu mythos including the cycle of returning great old evil motif.

And if we shall draw nature parallels then i would say the reapers are more like burring frogs(and other animals) who goes into hibernation (for years sometimes) only to reemerge when it's time to feed.

Modifié par Anacronian Stryx, 31 octobre 2011 - 01:36 .

[Shinobu]

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Honestly - I've LONG suspected that infact Cerberus is doing this; whenever we see TIM we see a strange darkening star on the view-screen, and cerberus appears to have far more resources than anyone'd think possible.

I agree. On the GameInformer ME3 Q&A:

Where is the Illusive Man physically located during the course of Mass Effect 2? What’s going on with that colorful cosmic display outside his window?
Mac Walters: "The colorful cosmic display is a clue to the location of the Illusive Man, which I can't reveal. Not yet."

The star's gotta be Dholen, since it's changing color from red to blue ("aging") over the course of the game. Why or how TIM is involved, I don't know, but  I'm pretty sure he's in on it.

http://www.gameinfor...dcore-fans.aspx

Modifié par Shinobu, 31 octobre 2011 - 01:48 .

[Anacronian Stryx]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

there is nothing indicating that the reapers need food/energy of any kind

There are the Laws of Thermodynamics.

A 37 million years old wreck of a reaper still had power and energy enough to maintain a functioning mass effect core and a orbit around  a brown dwarf not to mention it had energy to put up barriers as well, That would seem to indicate that the reapers suffers no "malnutrition" when it comes to energy.

[Saaziel]

Shinobu wrote...

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Honestly - I've LONG suspected that infact Cerberus is doing this; whenever we see TIM we see a strange darkening star on the view-screen, and cerberus appears to have far more resources than anyone'd think possible.

I agree. On the GameInformer ME3 Q&A:

Where is the Illusive Man physically located during the course of Mass Effect 2? What’s going on with that colorful cosmic display outside his window?
Mac Walters: "The colorful cosmic display is a clue to the location of the Illusive Man, which I can't reveal. Not yet."

The star's gotta be Dholen, since it's changing color from red to blue ("aging") over the course of the game. Why or how TIM is involved, I don't know, but  I'm pretty sure he's in on it.

http://www.gameinfor...dcore-fans.aspx

Thanks for the Info , i always figured it was mostly for aesthetics ; Considering that it changes with either ending. That said if is it is Dholen ,  It raises further questions about how Cerberus would have infiltrated Geth space without being notice or if they're there covertly to begin with.

[Zakatak757]

Is it possible that Eezo is simply from another dimension which contains exotic particles that we cannot explain? We've already proven existence of parellel universes. Considering that the Reapers or their creators have existed for over a billion years (think Vorlus/Shadows), they have probably had plenty of time to create some kind of interdimensional device.

[Anacronian Stryx]

Shinobu wrote...

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Honestly - I've LONG suspected that infact Cerberus is doing this; whenever we see TIM we see a strange darkening star on the view-screen, and cerberus appears to have far more resources than anyone'd think possible.

I agree. On the GameInformer ME3 Q&A:

Where is the Illusive Man physically located during the course of Mass Effect 2? What’s going on with that colorful cosmic display outside his window?
Mac Walters: "The colorful cosmic display is a clue to the location of the Illusive Man, which I can't reveal. Not yet."

The star's gotta be Dholen, since it's changing color from red to blue ("aging") over the course of the game. Why or how TIM is involved, I don't know, but  I'm pretty sure he's in on it.

http://www.gameinfor...dcore-fans.aspx

Actually the star outside changes color due to Shepards alligment (red= renegade -blue=paragon).

Modifié par Anacronian Stryx, 31 octobre 2011 - 02:07 .

[RyuujinZERO]

Saaziel wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Honestly - I've LONG suspected that infact Cerberus is doing this; whenever we see TIM we see a strange darkening star on the view-screen, and cerberus appears to have far more resources than anyone'd think possible.

I agree. On the GameInformer ME3 Q&A:

Where is the Illusive Man physically located during the course of Mass Effect 2? What’s going on with that colorful cosmic display outside his window?
Mac Walters: "The colorful cosmic display is a clue to the location of the Illusive Man, which I can't reveal. Not yet."

The star's gotta be Dholen, since it's changing color from red to blue ("aging") over the course of the game. Why or how TIM is involved, I don't know, but  I'm pretty sure he's in on it.

http://www.gameinfor...dcore-fans.aspx

Thanks for the Info , i always figured it was mostly for aesthetics ; Considering that it changes with either ending. That said if is it is Dholen ,  It raises further questions about how Cerberus would have infiltrated Geth space without being notice or if they're there covertly to begin with.

With all the radiation pouring out of DholenI I would have thought it'd be pretty easy to hide a station close to the star itself. Sensors looking towards the star'd suffer heavy interferance at the ultraviolet end of the spectrum, and stars emit huge amounts of infrared anyway, and if the station is set to follow high on the ecliptic it'd never eclipse the star (making visual detection nearly impossible)

In otherwords, you'd have to be actively looking for a station to have any real chance of detecting it

Modifié par RyuujinZERO, 31 octobre 2011 - 02:15 .

[Shinobu]

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Honestly - I've LONG suspected that infact Cerberus is doing this; whenever we see TIM we see a strange darkening star on the view-screen, and cerberus appears to have far more resources than anyone'd think possible.

I agree. On the GameInformer ME3 Q&A:

Where is the Illusive Man physically located during the course of Mass Effect 2? What’s going on with that colorful cosmic display outside his window?
Mac Walters: "The colorful cosmic display is a clue to the location of the Illusive Man, which I can't reveal. Not yet."

The star's gotta be Dholen, since it's changing color from red to blue ("aging") over the course of the game. Why or how TIM is involved, I don't know, but  I'm pretty sure he's in on it.

http://www.gameinfor...dcore-fans.aspx

Actually the star outside changes color due to Shepards alligment (red= renegade -blue=paragon).

I don't think so. I just finished a 90+% renegade run and it was still blue at the end. I was actually wondering if being more renagade made it bluer, but the universe can't revolve around her that much, can it?

[Saaziel]

Perhaps I'm imagining things but it has to do with the Collector base destruction. But its been ages since i played (I'm actually starting all over from Me1) so i might be wrong.

[didymos1120]

Shinobu wrote...

I don't think so. I just finished a 90+% renegade run and it was still blue at the end. I was actually wondering if being more renagade made it bluer, but the universe can't revolve around her that much, can it?

If you blow up the base: all blue.
If you keep the base: all red.
If Shep dies, no matter what you chose: looks like it always does.

Also, it should go without saying that you shouldn't take that too seriously.  Shep doesn't truly have power over the stars themselves.  It's just a neat visual flourish.

Modifié par didymos1120, 31 octobre 2011 - 02:27 .

[Anacronian Stryx]

Shinobu wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Honestly - I've LONG suspected that infact Cerberus is doing this; whenever we see TIM we see a strange darkening star on the view-screen, and cerberus appears to have far more resources than anyone'd think possible.

I agree. On the GameInformer ME3 Q&A:

Where is the Illusive Man physically located during the course of Mass Effect 2? What’s going on with that colorful cosmic display outside his window?
Mac Walters: "The colorful cosmic display is a clue to the location of the Illusive Man, which I can't reveal. Not yet."

The star's gotta be Dholen, since it's changing color from red to blue ("aging") over the course of the game. Why or how TIM is involved, I don't know, but  I'm pretty sure he's in on it.

http://www.gameinfor...dcore-fans.aspx

Actually the star outside changes color due to Shepards alligment (red= renegade -blue=paragon).

I don't think so. I just finished a 90+% renegade run and it was still blue at the end. I was actually wondering if being more renagade made it bluer, but the universe can't revolve around her that much, can it?

Paragon.

Renegade.

Half/half

Modifié par Anacronian Stryx, 31 octobre 2011 - 02:28 .

[didymos1120]

Actually, here's Renegade:

edit: nevermind. Got it covered.

Modifié par didymos1120, 31 octobre 2011 - 02:29 .

[GETH1183]

Did we all forget about the Alpha Relay from Arrival? Dr. Kenson mentioned that if certain controls were adjusted on the Alpha Relay, it was possible to send one directly to the Citadel or Earth. We theorize that Nazara manipulated the controls for the Iera system's mass relay in order to attack the Citadel by surprise. Without Nazara to return the mass relay to normal functionality, the excess dark energy produced has affected the interior of Dholen.

[GMagnum]

GETH1183 wrote...

Did we all forget about the Alpha Relay from Arrival? Dr. Kenson mentioned that if certain controls were adjusted on the Alpha Relay, it was possible to send one directly to the Citadel or Earth. We theorize that Nazara manipulated the controls for the Iera system's mass relay in order to attack the Citadel by surprise. Without Nazara to return the mass relay to normal functionality, the excess dark energy produced has affected the interior of Dholen.

was jus bout to post dat tbh 

[GETH1183]

GMagnum wrote...

GETH1183 wrote...

Did we all forget about the Alpha Relay from Arrival? Dr. Kenson mentioned that if certain controls were adjusted on the Alpha Relay, it was possible to send one directly to the Citadel or Earth. We theorize that Nazara manipulated the controls for the Iera system's mass relay in order to attack the Citadel by surprise. Without Nazara to return the mass relay to normal functionality, the excess dark energy produced has affected the interior of Dholen.

was jus bout to post dat tbh 

Apologies. We did not mean to steal anything. We only wished to state known facts that we were aware of.

[GMagnum]

GETH1183 wrote...

GMagnum wrote...

GETH1183 wrote...

Did we all forget about the Alpha Relay from Arrival? Dr. Kenson mentioned that if certain controls were adjusted on the Alpha Relay, it was possible to send one directly to the Citadel or Earth. We theorize that Nazara manipulated the controls for the Iera system's mass relay in order to attack the Citadel by surprise. Without Nazara to return the mass relay to normal functionality, the excess dark energy produced has affected the interior of Dholen.

was jus bout to post dat tbh 

Apologies. We did not mean to steal anything. We only wished to state known facts that we were aware of.

its all good bro as long as da knowledge spreads i am a happy dude

[Shinobu]

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

RyuujinZERO wrote...

Honestly - I've LONG suspected that infact Cerberus is doing this; whenever we see TIM we see a strange darkening star on the view-screen, and cerberus appears to have far more resources than anyone'd think possible.

I agree. On the GameInformer ME3 Q&A:

Where is the Illusive Man physically located during the course of Mass Effect 2? What’s going on with that colorful cosmic display outside his window?
Mac Walters: "The colorful cosmic display is a clue to the location of the Illusive Man, which I can't reveal. Not yet."

The star's gotta be Dholen, since it's changing color from red to blue ("aging") over the course of the game. Why or how TIM is involved, I don't know, but  I'm pretty sure he's in on it.

http://www.gameinfor...dcore-fans.aspx

Actually the star outside changes color due to Shepards alligment (red= renegade -blue=paragon).

I don't think so. I just finished a 90+% renegade run and it was still blue at the end. I was actually wondering if being more renagade made it bluer, but the universe can't revolve around her that much, can it?

Paragon. (Blue)

Renegade. (Red)

Half/half (like it says)

Hmm. I think my renegade did blow the base, so that would make sense that the star was still blue. I'm still putting my money on Dholen, though, since the fate of the base affects TIM's tech level and thus his ability to affect the star. The "cosmic display is a clue to his location" after all. I haven't read the comics or novels (apart from Ascension) but think it likely TIM is working in the interests of the Reapers even if he's not working directly with them.