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Who would win this war - Human / Turian / Asari


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Turians easily have the best military. They are militaristic species, while humans are more known as a jack-of-all-trades species. They have 39 dreadnaughts to humanity's 8. While that ratio probably doesn't apply to overall fleet size, it wouldn't be a stretch to say the Turian fleet is larger. Not to mention more advanced; it was the Turians whom developed the Thanix Cannon, so even if the other species have gotten their hands on it, the Turians have likely outfitted a larger percentage of their fleet with Thanix than the other races.

They also have a much larger economy, which is crucial in wartime. Having another species oversee your economy is a nice thing for the Turians, as they don't have to worry about it so much themselves.

Finally, they have been established in Citadel space far longer than Humans and thus have more colonies and subsequently a greater population.

I choose the Turians over the Asari because while Asari Commandoes are fearsome opponents, they aren't large in number and the Asari lack a centralized military (I believe). I also remember than if the Destiny Ascension is destroyed, the Asari cede their share of military defense to the Turians, implying the Turians are the superior military power.

When all is said and done though, the most powerful and advanced army doesn't always win. There are too many variables in war. After all, somehow the Citadel races are going to defeat the Reapers. I'd put my money on the Turians, nothing is certain.

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This has actually got me thinking about Asari reproduction. Nearly their entire population are able to mate amongst themselves, other races, or hell, even POW's. Makes me think that if they wanted to they could have a massive population explosion, but it would take time. I don't think humans or the turians could take them out quick enough to prevent that.

You would probably end up with a stalemate where all three sides were weakened so much that another race could easily finish them off one by one.

I also agree with hawkens982, it would be very interesting to see what other military hardware the races are using. I'm hoping ME3 opens up the lore in those areas (even if a lot of it can't be portrayed in game).

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asari.

they'll OUTLIVE both the humans and turians.

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The Turians or Asari.

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Turians..maybe Humans..

Asari? Lol...no. They would be pwnt like the sissies they are.

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Asari easily

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billy the squid wrote...

Sheep, they look harmless, but that's what they want you to think.


Don't be fooled by these animals, New Zealand fell to the sheep because we were careless. We thought we could control them, we were wrong.

OT: Turians because they have the largest fleet in the galaxy.

Modifié par SmallDude21, 03 janvier 2012 - 09:41 .


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Short War: Human

Long War: Turian

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If there is no Shepard, Turian for the win.

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humans would win we fight dirty and we war in our blood we can't live a day without war we fight over everything and The turians will underestimated us and lose. Asari like peace thier whole government is a online debate Forums os we send them nice computer virus our hackers are making new ones everyday and crash their government. we have war tactics for everything not including reapers lol :)

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Nah, we got repaers covered.

We'll beam My Little Pony, Justin Beiber and reality shows straight into their heads. After that they won't be capalbe of tiying their shoes, let alone war.

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 03 janvier 2012 - 01:38 .


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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Nah, we got repaers covered.

We'll beam My Little Pony, Justin Beiber and reality shows straight into their heads. After that they won't be capalbe of tiying their shoes, let alone war.

nice i forgot alpha brain reap plan

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TURIANS

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my money is on the shifty-looking space cows....

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Humans.

Shepard goes and ___, kills everything ever, then invests in all their stores.

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The geth.

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All three sides will fight until they're so weak that Zoidberg can come in and claim victory over all three, now Zoidberg is the popular one.

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Wulfram wrote...

The dreadnought counts that we've got are the most straightforward evidence of Alien fleet superiority.  Though Alliance Carriers might counter that a little.

Less straightforwardly but more compellingly, the Turians as an established space empire must have resources far outweighing that of our own - and given how they are characterised it is impossible to conclude that they would not devote at least as much if not more of their resources to their navy.  Their own empire and their role as the Council's peacekeepers would also compel them to have a far larger fleet than the Alliance - which is itself clearly rather overstretched given it's inability to actually prevent pirate raids on human worlds.

The Asari probably aren't highly militarised, but the dreadnought count, as well as the Destiny Ascension, suggests that they haven't neglected their fleet at least.


Dreadnaught numbers will not win a war. Luke Skywalker detroyed the Death Star in an X-Wing.

Asari are weak. Turians are predictable. Humans and turians would fight to a stalemate. Salarians would take advantage of the obvious threat and summarily destroy the asari, human, and turian militaries. 

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Personally? I think Turian's would win, as shown by their willingness to deploy the Genophage, Turian won't hesitate to do whatever is necessary, combined with the fact the leaders of both the Asari and Alliance are a part of the council (presuming the council were saved in ME1) and that according to the codex the security on the Citadel is primarily Turian, with a few humans (once again, assuming the council were saved) thus the Turian's could pull off a military coup of the Citadel in no time at all, winning them either victory (White-Gold Concordat style, like the Thalmor and Empire in Skyrim) OR the control of all the Mass Effect relays (as the Citadel is the central control system) crippling the maneuverability of the enemy troops. Also, the Volus HAVE to be taken into consideration, as "they were voluntarily absorbed into the the Turian Hierarchy" (source: The Codex) and war is a matter of governments, not races, and as the Turians maintain the Volus within the Hierarchy, they control most of the trade agreements within Citadel space.

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Asari.

Turians may have the largest fleet - but Asari would probably be able to sway more races around to their side. Not to mention the remaining Krogan would love any excuse to go after the Turians.

Nobody would join the humans, most of the galaxy hates us.

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Icinix wrote...

Asari.

Turians may have the largest fleet - but Asari would probably be able to sway more races around to their side.


Zakatak757 wrote...

The point is that the Asari, Humans, and Turians have somehow gotten into a full-scale three-sided with one another. No outside influences, no alliances, no diplomacy, no rules but these rules.

All this being said, the Turians win this. Turians have the largest military fleet and the largest availible army. Every Turian recieves military training at 15. While humanity may be able to recruit large numbers of people should war break out, there simply wouldn't be enough time to train and equip a force needed to stand against a Turian force. The Turians are better equppied, better prepared and could mobilize the quickest.

The Asari really wouldn't play a major role here. They do have biotics, but they lack any military structure. They do have very well trained units, but they aren't prepared for front line combat and there aren't many of them.

Modifié par NPH11, 05 février 2012 - 10:16 .


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Shepard is human, therefore humans win. In addition, asari are incompetent strippers and dancers, and turians are just stupid. Humans are the only ones willing to do whatever it takes to win.

Modifié par Kronner, 05 février 2012 - 10:19 .


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My money is on humanity.

The asari don't have a very organized military and it isn't that large. They can be knocked out easily by either the humans or turians.

When it comes down to the turians and humans humanity has the advantage of mobility. It is prepared to strike anywhere at a moment's notice and has few hard assets to defend. The turians on the other hand will have many of their forces tied up protecting their assets.

Assuming the turians don't have stealth frigates (and I see no evidence that they do), the SA has a big advantage. It can land commandos anywhere it wants in turian space to sabotage them from behind their lines and it can outright attack with stealth frigates elsewhere the same way.

In fleet engagements carriers give humanity a big advantage because carriers can lay down damage without exposing themselves.

Turians may have the initial advantage in numbers, but a great deal of those are stationary and humanity isn't even at peak capacity yet.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Assuming the turians don't have stealth frigates (and I see no evidence that they do)

The Normandy SR1 was a Turian and Human collaboration, and most of it's advanced features (stealth primarily) are due to the Turian designed Mass Effect drive(/Core, I never remember) that it's carrying

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ENDragoon wrote...

The Normandy SR1 was a Turian and Human collaboration, and most of it's advanced features (stealth primarily) are due to the Turian designed Mass Effect drive(/Core, I never remember) that it's carrying


That is not true at all. What exactly the turians contributed to the ship beyond its layout is unknown. None of the key technologies are said to be turian.

It wouldn't make sense anyway since none of the Normandy's features fit the turian military doctrine.

It is a risk even for the Alliance and the turians are way more conservative.

It is also an Alliance ship and not a turian one, crewed by the Alliance.

I really doubt that the turians have any of the technology in the Normandy or that they have any stealth frigates.

If they'd had any such frigates I'm sure they'd have been used in Retribution, but they weren't.

So far the only stealth frigates we know of are the Normandy SR1, SR2, and another one Udina used to destroy a batarian factory.