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[Matt251287]

Is anyone else wondering where the main Mass-Accelerator is positioned on the Destiny-Ascension?

In Human/Turian warships it's spinal-mounted and i always assumed that hole through the middle was for drive (and possibly fighter-bays).

Part of me wants to say it's the tall bit at the top, but i can't see the tactical advantage of the weapon being aimed perpendicular to the drive-direction?

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

It's been established that the Asari rely on the Turians for millitary protection (like good little parasites) so there would never be a three-way war to begin with. The Asari would be knocked out very quickly.

And no, not every Asari is a biotic commando. There are small, specialized groups of Asari strike teams, but they do not have a biotic army ready to deploy or anything like that.

[NPH11]

Saphra Deden wrote...

The asari don't have a very organized military and it isn't that large. They can be knocked out easily by either the humans or turians.
 

Agreed.

Saphra Deden wrote...

When it comes down to the turians and humans humanity has the advantage of mobility. It is prepared to strike anywhere at a moment's notice and has few hard assets to defend. The turians on the other hand will have many of their forces tied up protecting their assets.

I disagree here. I think the Turains have the mobility advantage. The Turians have a larger fleet and a larger reserve force to call up. I'd imagine the Turians could conscipt the majority of their populace quickly, given that the entire populace has undergone mandatory training.

I don't see how humanity is "ready to strike anywhere at a moment's notice". Sure, they may not have as many assets to defend, but they don't have as large a fleet. Going on the offensive early would be risky as you would tie up a large portion of your fleet against a larger, defending fleet. If the Turians score victories, they would be in a great position to counterattack.

Not to mention, defending Turian assets would not be a major issue when your entire populace has military experience. All you would need to do to prepare a colonial defence force is hand out weapons.

Saphra Deden wrote...

Assuming the turians don't have stealth frigates (and I see no evidence that they do), the SA has a big advantage. It can land commandos anywhere it wants in turian space to sabotage them from behind their lines and it can outright attack with stealth frigates elsewhere the same way.

It can't really. Stealth frigates are mainly useful for recon. They would need to creep by Turian fleets in order to drop units behind enemy lines. They'd be relatively useless in space combat as they would be unable to move using FTL without giving away their positon.

Saphra Deden wrote...

In fleet engagements carriers give humanity a big advantage because carriers can lay down damage without exposing themselves. 

Fair point on the carriers I suppose, but whether or not humanity has enough to keep the Turian fleet at bay is questionable.

Saphra Deden wrote...

That is not true at all. What exactly the turians contributed to the ship beyond its layout is unknown. None of the key technologies are said to be turian.

So the joint Human/Turian stealth ship incorporated no Turian features? Interesting idea. It's not really fair to write off what was said by ENDragoon as being unsubstantiated, and then make more unsubstantiated claims. I would imagine that the Turians, even if they don't have any stealth frigates of their own, at least know how to make one.

Putting everything aside though, any military conflict would be prolonged and brutal. Hell, the Asari could potentially win by staying out of combat. Whoever goes on offensive is immediately at a disadvantage as the Mass Relays make for excellent choke points. Any military conflict could essentially remain a Cold War, with fleets just waiting at the relays and never going on offense. 

Modifié par NPH11, 05 février 2012 - 10:58 .

[Biotic Sage]

King Minos wrote...

I don't know but if I was a world leader I won't hesitate to use chemical, biological or nuclear. No alien is going to kill my people and get away with it.

*Sigh* That's the exact thought process of real world leaders who have committed war time atrocities. 

"It's ok because they're not my family"
"It's ok because they're not from my country"
"It's ok because they're not my race"
"It's ok because they're not human"

You can use whatever rationalization you want to dehumanize other people (or in this hypothetical case sentient human-LIKE people) but it all amounts to the same thing in my view.

[Icinix]

NPH11 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Asari.

Turians may have the largest fleet - but Asari would probably be able to sway more races around to their side.

Zakatak757 wrote...

The point is that the Asari, Humans, and Turians have somehow gotten into a full-scale three-sided with one another. No outside influences, no alliances, no diplomacy, no rules but these rules.

All this being said, the Turians win this. Turians have the largest military fleet and the largest availible army. Every Turian recieves military training at 15. While humanity may be able to recruit large numbers of people should war break out, there simply wouldn't be enough time to train and equip a force needed to stand against a Turian force. The Turians are better equppied, better prepared and could mobilize the quickest.

The Asari really wouldn't play a major role here. They do have biotics, but they lack any military structure. They do have very well trained units, but they aren't prepared for front line combat and there aren't many of them.

Thats what happens when I skim the OP.

Agreed. Turians. Although humanity would lead them on goose chases and guerilla warfare for generations.

[Vez04]

darkness reborn wrote...

I know one race that would beat them all:
The Tau Empire!

TAU'VA!

WH40K reference ftw!

[CaptainHydra]

A war between every race? Hmmm.....

I think I have the answer, does this ring a bell

?????: This one believes the ruse has gone far enough. This one believes the time to strike is now, mobilise the Enkindler squads 1 through 7. Death to the lesser races, for the glory of the Enkindlers!!!!!

[Haasth]

Shepard is human, he'd either kick all the other alien races' asses or find a paragon interrupt to get them all to love eachother again.

[ncknck]

Humans would win. PLOT ARMOR.

Now we have 1(one) human vs entire Reaper collection. Winning.

[tetrisblock4x1]

The sex fantasy aliens.