Bleachrude wrote...
Why exactly would Turians actually lose on "flexibility". The codex explicitly mentions that Turians have lots of flexibility with regard to their troops in that squad leaders are able to call down both artillery and air support. Assuming that we're using NATO designations, that shows a lot more trust in the capability of their NCOs when compared to say what we have current day (only a platoon leader - 1st or 2nd Lt would have that authority )
The codec says the turians had significant problems facing the Blitzkrieg tactics, and that is why they stalled out. The alliance uses tactics that the turians can't addapt to. Also: having faith in your NCO's does not mean that they can or are even allowed to think outside the box. The codec suggests a rigid military structured culture of following orders. This most likely means that it is a very top down command structure, instead of bottom up, where also the NCO's can make tactical decisions based on available oportunities.
Secondly, the codex ALSO mentions that the Turians have a VASTLY larger economy when compared to the alliance (not as big as the asari) meaning that in any war of attrition, they would win versus anyone not named Asari.
This is going to be one of their strong points, defenately. But in WW2 germany had a much smaller economy, and stil managed to hold out against most of the worlds armies. They lost because they where overrun by primarily numbers. That and they made some damn poor choices along the way. The economy is not a sure sign of victory, although it will help immensly. yes. That is why i think the turians would be perfect short term winners. Do keep in mind that the turians have other races to content with that are part of their protectorate.
As an aside, a war with the asari would crater the Alliance economy. The volus (thus the turians) and the asari literally have the alliance by the ballsack IMO given that what would eventually win any war is whose economy is better/bigger.
Never said it was easy.
But the asari build that economy in 3000 years, we did ours in les than 200. If we manage a couple of large scale hits against the Asari economy, they might be very slow to rebound. Turians are on par with humans, so that could be problematic.
The germans pretty much demolished the russians in the early part of the war but once the vastly larger russian industry kicked into gear, even in weird AUs where the Western allies never enter the war, nobody thinks the germans actually had a chance of totally subduing Russia.
True. But Russia won mostly due to their vast, VAST territories. Remember that Germany knocked on the gates of Moskou. That was more land that they had taken in the prior to operation barbarossa. THat land was the equivallent of countries. Next to that, Germany had virtually no navy, and no long range bombers. Japan (their allies) also had no long range heavey bombers, and could not attack Russia to aid them. Last but not least, no orbital bombardment.
One of the key hits that cripled the germans was a ballbearing factory, and their oil supply. Had those not been hit, Germany would have faired alot better, despite their smaller economy.
Large economies are going to be a ****. However, strike tactics that level entire industrial centres can level the playing field quickly (if it can be managed).
People tend to forget that "not as flexible" does not mean "totally rigid and hidebound". Hell, across ME1 & ME2, we meet more non-conformist turians than pure "by the book" ones.
Yes, but then again: we never meet any proper turian military people, so we just dont know for sure. What we learn from Garrus does not give much hope for turian command flexibility.
Technical prowess: Again, why are we assuming that Turians are less inclined to this? The only thing the turians might be accused of is being less entrepreneurial oriented than the other races (did we forget that the original stealth ship was a joint turian/human project AND the fact that in 8 months, has a new weapon system up and running?
I said that the turians would be a good second. The only reason why i think they are 'less inclined', but only by a narrow magin, is their military social philosophy. They are very similar to Japan in WW2, where everything was focussed at the war, and attack, and dying for the fatherland, etc. The technological advances for weapons and ships will be on par with humans. But WW2 has learned that the nation that develops technology in every 'direction', even non related with direct combat, will have the edge. Take the enigma machine, take the german submarine snorkel, etc. Little things that make a lot of difference.
(Are we also assuming that the alliance just starts applying Thanix cannons to their ships or that they even have it? - Personally, this always struck me as weird in that Garrus had enough connections to get the specs for the thanix.)
Agreed, but this is an unknown. Turians and earth both have these, and it was said that thannix could be adapted to fighters. If that is so, carriers are going to rule!
Quite frankly, unless ME is a setting where humans have a much higher birth rate than everyone else, I don't see how humans could ever dominate galactic society?
Dominate? No. I agree that we are not that numerous for that. But subdue? Yes, we could do that if we play our cards right.
Then again, what if we create geth-like troopers out of those security drones? Or just drop a whole bunch of those, among the soldiers (hack proof of course
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