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[mango smoothie]

Wintermist wrote...

Honestly, if you're not a fan of the concept of making films and animations about Mass Effect. Just don't watch them.

My problem is not with them making it. I only worry that a movie will affect how the games are made, for example creating a canon Shepard.

Modifié par mango smoothie, 01 novembre 2011 - 07:30 .

[Rune-Chan]

mango smoothie wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

Honestly, if you're not a fan of the concept of making films and animations about Mass Effect. Just don't watch them.

My problem is not with them making it. I only worry that a movie will affect how the games are made, for example creating a canon Shepard.

Exactly, what is the point of making a game series based around choices and decisions and then coming out with an "official" version of events? It's more or less saying "This is how it was supposed to happen".

[CroGamer002]

Can't people at least wait for a trailer to judge a movie?


As for canon Shepard?
Story won't be about anything that happen in any games so I can easily dismiss it like it never happen.

Hell, entire movie can be just a non-canon filler advertisement for Mass Effect franchise.
And if it's going to be good, then there's no reason to complain for movie existence.

[Omega-202]

Mesina2 wrote...

Can't people at least wait for a trailer to judge a movie?


As for canon Shepard?
Story won't be about anything that happen in any games so I can easily dismiss it like it never happen.

Hell, entire movie can be just a non-canon filler advertisement for Mass Effect franchise.
And if it's going to be good, then there's no reason to complain for movie existence.

First off, I agree that the complaining is unfounded.

Second, sorry to break it to you but the Legendary Studios official FAQ says the events will follow Shepard through the story of the first game.  So...yeah it is something that happens in the games.

Third, I agree with your overall view about a "canon Shepard".  Who cares?  Why does a "canon Shepard" deminish your choices?  The main games will have all been released and there will be no more Shepard centric stories.  

Even if they stated "This is the official Shepard" why does that bother people any more than the fact that there is already a default Shepard?  Default Shepard is a male Soldier/Sole Survivor/Earthborn who looks like Mark Vanderloo, saved the Council, chose Udina, killed Wrex and the Rachni and left Kaiden to die.  That's what we're given as a blank slate in ME1/ME2/marketing.  Based on the overall leading BioWare has ALREADY pushed, its obvious that they favor the Paragon choices and Liara as the default romance.  

They've already given us theses defaults.  How is it that people can't accept that canonization is not that far off from what we already have?  Do these defaults really weigh on people's minds?  No?  They why would a canon version?  

[BatmanPWNS]

Omega-202 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Can't people at least wait for a trailer to judge a movie?


As for canon Shepard?
Story won't be about anything that happen in any games so I can easily dismiss it like it never happen.

Hell, entire movie can be just a non-canon filler advertisement for Mass Effect franchise.
And if it's going to be good, then there's no reason to complain for movie existence.

First off, I agree that the complaining is unfounded.

Second, sorry to break it to you but the Legendary Studios official FAQ says the events will follow Shepard through the story of the first game.  So...yeah it is something that happens in the games.

Third, I agree with your overall view about a "canon Shepard".  Who cares?  Why does a "canon Shepard" deminish your choices?  The main games will have all been released and there will be no more Shepard centric stories.  

Even if they stated "This is the official Shepard" why does that bother people any more than the fact that there is already a default Shepard?  Default Shepard is a male Soldier/Sole Survivor/Earthborn who looks like Mark Vanderloo, saved the Council, chose Udina, killed Wrex and the Rachni and left Kaiden to die.  That's what we're given as a blank slate in ME1/ME2/marketing.  Based on the overall leading BioWare has ALREADY pushed, its obvious that they favor the Paragon choices and Liara as the default romance.  

They've already given us theses defaults.  How is it that people can't accept that canonization is not that far off from what we already have?  Do these defaults really weigh on people's minds?  No?  They why would a canon version?  

Actually Default Shep doesn't save the Council.

[Omega-202]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Omega-202 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Can't people at least wait for a trailer to judge a movie?


As for canon Shepard?
Story won't be about anything that happen in any games so I can easily dismiss it like it never happen.

Hell, entire movie can be just a non-canon filler advertisement for Mass Effect franchise.
And if it's going to be good, then there's no reason to complain for movie existence.

First off, I agree that the complaining is unfounded.

Second, sorry to break it to you but the Legendary Studios official FAQ says the events will follow Shepard through the story of the first game.  So...yeah it is something that happens in the games.

Third, I agree with your overall view about a "canon Shepard".  Who cares?  Why does a "canon Shepard" deminish your choices?  The main games will have all been released and there will be no more Shepard centric stories.  

Even if they stated "This is the official Shepard" why does that bother people any more than the fact that there is already a default Shepard?  Default Shepard is a male Soldier/Sole Survivor/Earthborn who looks like Mark Vanderloo, saved the Council, chose Udina, killed Wrex and the Rachni and left Kaiden to die.  That's what we're given as a blank slate in ME1/ME2/marketing.  Based on the overall leading BioWare has ALREADY pushed, its obvious that they favor the Paragon choices and Liara as the default romance.  

They've already given us theses defaults.  How is it that people can't accept that canonization is not that far off from what we already have?  Do these defaults really weigh on people's minds?  No?  They why would a canon version?  

Actually Default Shep doesn't save the Council.

I apologize, but the remainder of my point stands.  

[shepskisaac]

Omega-202 wrote...

First off, I agree that the complaining is unfounded.

Second, sorry to break it to you but the Legendary Studios official FAQ says the events will follow Shepard through the story of the first game.  So...yeah it is something that happens in the games.

Third, I agree with your overall view about a "canon Shepard".  Who cares?  Why does a "canon Shepard" deminish your choices?  The main games will have all been released and there will be no more Shepard centric stories.  

Even if they stated "This is the official Shepard" why does that bother people any more than the fact that there is already a default Shepard?  Default Shepard is a male Soldier/Sole Survivor/Earthborn who looks like Mark Vanderloo, saved the Council, chose Udina, killed Wrex and the Rachni and left Kaiden to die.  That's what we're given as a blank slate in ME1/ME2/marketing.  Based on the overall leading BioWare has ALREADY pushed, its obvious that they favor the Paragon choices and Liara as the default romance.  

They've already given us theses defaults.  How is it that people can't accept that canonization is not that far off from what we already have?  Do these defaults really weigh on people's minds?  No?  They why would a canon version?  

They why did they bothered avoiding the mention of Shepard's gender/roamnces/choices in books, comics and companion games? Persicesly NOT to have canon Shepard. The only reason Sheploo (and now the official FemShep as well) is to for marketing purpouses, to be able to show the main pratagonist in the promo material without covering his face constantly and/or putting him/her in gender-covering outfits (like they had to do with Revan).

Modifié par IsaacShep, 01 novembre 2011 - 10:06 .

[CroGamer002]

^Books and comics weren't about Shepard.


Movie, for better or worse, will be about Shepard.

[shepskisaac]

Mesina2 wrote...

^Books and comics weren't about Shepard.


Movie, for better or worse, will be about Shepard.

And that's the question. Why does it have to be about Shepard? The general audience who doesn't know ME games will make up for great majority of the movie's audience. They don't know ME = they don't care for Shepard and if the movie's about him or a random Asari stripper #2534.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 01 novembre 2011 - 10:15 .

[CroGamer002]

^I don't like that decision either, but Bioware choose that movie is going to be about Shepard for whatever reason I can not say.

[Omega-202]

IsaacShep wrote...
They why did they bothered avoiding the mention of Shepard's gender/roamnces/choices in books, comics and companion games? Persicesly NOT to have canon Shepard. The only reason Sheploo (and now the official FemShep as well) is to for marketing purpouses, to be able to show the main pratagonist in the promo material without covering his face constantly and/or putting him/her in gender-covering outfits (like they had to do with Revan).

They avoided it because the games about Shepard were still being released.  

The movie will come out way after Shepard's story is over.  They did the exact same thing with Revan.  There's no point in declaring a canon version until its necessary to move forward with the IP.  

They've already begun the canonization process with the statement about Udina as the Council member.  They never promised to not have a canon Shepard.  They only stated that they'd avoid it as best as possible.  The reason it was never brought up previously was to not have the kind of childish backlash people are exhibiting.  It was not because they didn't want to have a canon version.   

[SandTrout]

This is why I suspect that the movie will be horrible.

Also, in a completely unrelated point, tin-foil is on sale at Walmart...

[CroGamer002]

^Wrong.

Revan and the Exiled were canon since the beginning and that's do to Lucas.


Also Udina being a councilor is not canon.
Anderson just steps out of council position after ME2 ends since he was just hitting the wall with head.

And Bioware said there's no canon Shepard but yours.

This movie will have it's own canon Shepard, but not franchise itself.

Modifié par Mesina2, 01 novembre 2011 - 10:33 .

[Omega-202]

Mesina2 wrote...

^Wrong.

Revan and the Exiled were canon since the beginning and that's do to Lucas.

i'm sorry but you're very wrong on that.  

Leland Chee (LucasFilm official lore director) did not officially make the statement about Revan's gender until 1.5 years after the release of KotOR on the official Star Wars.com forums.  Prior to that, no canonization was made.  Don't start this one with me, you're not going to win. They may have planned it, but it was never made public knowledge.   

For all we know, Drew and Mac may have established a canon version of Shepard and simply haven't revealed it yet.  

[SandTrout]

Mesina2 wrote...

^Wrong.

Revan and the Exiled were canon since the beginning and that's do to Lucas.


Also Udina being a councilor is not canon.
Anderson just steps out of council position after ME2 ends since he was just hitting the wall with head.

And Bioware said there's no canon Shepard but yours.

This movie will have it's own canon Shepard, but not franchise itself.

Which means that it is still a wasted opportunity to truely draw in new fans to the franchise and expand/flesh out the universe.

[DarkPsylocke26]

I watch Super Mario Brothers, when that come out. Street Fighter I thought was good actually with Van Damme in it. Dead or Alive I thought was good to.

[shepskisaac]

Omega-202 wrote...

They avoided it because the games about Shepard were still being released. 

But the Kotor franchise was still being released when Revan's canon gender was revealed. Kotor 2 came out like 1.5 years after the first one, so around the same time right?

[LOLandStuff]

I said it before, we're gonna watch someone's walkthrough of Mass Effect but with lots of explosions and cheesy dialogues.

[FluffyScarf]

ME1 and 2 had plenty of cheesy dialogue and explosions.

[LOLandStuff]

FluffyScarf wrote...

ME1 and 2 had plenty of cheesy dialogue and explosions.

Cheesy Star Wars dialogue and 80% explosions. Also some alien side boob.

[Omega-202]

IsaacShep wrote...

Omega-202 wrote...

They avoided it because the games about Shepard were still being released. 

But the Kotor franchise was still being released when Revan's canon gender was revealed. Kotor 2 came out like 1.5 years after the first one, so around the same time right?

Revan's gender reveal was AFTER the release of KotOR 2 by a few months and if I recall correctly, the thread in which Chee commented was in regards to KotOR 2 plot points.  My memory says some time in February/March of 2006.  

The fact was, your decisions as Revan were already nearly 2 years behind you.  Anyone who was commenting on the forums and saw Chee's official statement would have been far enough into KotOR 2 to have already established the gender of their Revan through the back story conversations (aka in the first 15 minutes of the game).  

Anyone who cared enough about Revan's gender having an official statement matter to them already had Revan's gender established in their own games.  Chee's statement came out after any fan who would have cared had already dictated their Revan's gender in both 1 and 2.  

The same is taking place here.  The movie will come out after everyone would have made their choice on their preferred version of Shepard.  

[ajaxbr]

Mass Effect the Movie will only work, if the talent around the movie making process is strong. Legendary Pictures does have a respectable track record for raising funding for its features. However, they will cheap it out. If you get a large budget and a talented, but unknown cast and A-list writers you'll have a FRANCHISE. But video game movies have a high interest and low level success rate. Which means that the Mass Effect Brand attracts film investors (think Lara Croft: Tomb Raider and Max Payne) however, they usually blow that money on a big star (Angelina Jolie or Mark Wahlberg) and spend the remaining funds on the CGI and marketing. The big money is now missing for the REAL Talent, the director and the writers. They get hacks or noobs and then the movie fails.

[Han Shot First]

Sadly I think that is exactly how the Mass Effect movie will play out.

It'll probably have a recognizable star in the lead but a C or D list director and writers, and bad CGI and special effects. I fully expect the Mass Effect movie to be same level of quality as the Clash of the Titans remake or the new Conan movie.

In other words, it'll be steaming pile.

I hope I'm wrong, but know I'm right.

[ajaxbr]

Hollywood is a little better at managing established brands now. Remember the Great Comic Book Boom of 90s compared to now. The Good: "Batman Returns", "The Mask", "The Crow" and The Bad: "Batman and Robin", "The Crow: City of Angels" and "Tank Girl". Now Hollywood gets comic book movies, "The Dark Knight", "Spider-Man", "Iron Man", "Red", "Sin City", ect.
And don't forget the Video Game Boom of the early 90s, "Super Mario Brothers", "Double Dragon", and "Street Fighter". Now Hollywood produces better video game movies, "Resident Evil", "Hitman", and "Prince of Persia". Video game films usually don't work well, but comic films did not really work until "Spider-man" (The "Batman" franchise opened the door, but attracting Hollywood A-list talent started with Rami's "Spider-man")

[Dark_Caduceus]

I think it will hit or miss as far as how well made/entertaining it will be, I very strongly doubt it will be a good representation of Mass Effect.