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[ajaxbr]

Hollywood's Winning Film Formula is as follows:
Clever writing + Pretty People + Hip trailer = Success.

The real winning Film Formula:
STRONG writing + STRONG performances + STRONG resources (fiscal and human) = Greatness

[SandTrout]

ajaxbr wrote...

Hollywood is a little better at managing established brands now. Remember the Great Comic Book Boom of 90s compared to now. The Good: "Batman Returns", "The Mask", "The Crow" and The Bad: "Batman and Robin", "The Crow: City of Angels" and "Tank Girl". Now Hollywood gets comic book movies, "The Dark Knight", "Spider-Man", "Iron Man", "Red", "Sin City", ect.
And don't forget the Video Game Boom of the early 90s, "Super Mario Brothers", "Double Dragon", and "Street Fighter". Now Hollywood produces better video game movies, "Resident Evil", "Hitman", and "Prince of Persia". Video game films usually don't work well, but comic films did not really work until "Spider-man" (The "Batman" franchise opened the door, but attracting Hollywood A-list talent started with Rami's "Spider-man")

You seem to be forgetting about Superman in that comic-book list. Also, Hitman and PoP were both bad movies, with Resident evil scatching its way into the "decent" category in the first movie before falling back into the chasm with the sequels.

Comic books are intrinsically easier to turn into movies due to length, the fact that you're upgrading rather than downgrading media, and the fact that a Comic is already essentially a prepared story-board.

A video-game to movie adaptation requires contracting the story, downgrading the media, and in general is going to be a bit weaker in the story area to begin with.

[shepskisaac]

Omega-202 wrote...


Revan's gender reveal was AFTER the release of KotOR 2 by a few months and if I recall correctly, the thread in which Chee commented was in regards to KotOR 2 plot points.  My memory says some time in February/March of 2006.  

The fact was, your decisions as Revan were already nearly 2 years behind you.  Anyone who was commenting on the forums and saw Chee's official statement would have been far enough into KotOR 2 to have already established the gender of their Revan through the back story conversations (aka in the first 15 minutes of the game).  

Anyone who cared enough about Revan's gender having an official statement matter to them already had Revan's gender established in their own games.  Chee's statement came out after any fan who would have cared had already dictated their Revan's gender in both 1 and 2.  

The same is taking place here.  The movie will come out after everyone would have made their choice on their preferred version of Shepard.  

But the KOTOR franchise AND Revan's story wasn't done. Kotor 2 set the stage for Kotor 3 that was already in pre-production at LucasArts and would obviously involve both Revan & the Exile. So Revan's canon gender was settled before the story wrapped. Not to mention, everyone expected 'canon gender/choices' to be established one day anyway from the beginning.

But it doesn't matter anyway. There's still no point other than $$$ in adapting ME1 into a movie.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 02 novembre 2011 - 02:27 .

[Whatever42]

Zero faith in the movie. Too many bad writers and mediocre directors in hollywood. That its an adaptation from a video game makes it that much harder; they don't know how to handle the material seriously. It's doomed.

[naledgeborn]

Brad Anderson should direct the movie.

[CptBomBom00]

DOOMED, you say, and if indeed its doomed, but lets hope that it doesn't **** up like the final fantasy spirit within did, pretty CG effects but plot killed, same Avatar, cool effects but again the plot killed the movie for me.

[mango smoothie]

CptBomBom00 wrote...

DOOMED, you say, and if indeed its doomed, but lets hope that it doesn't **** up like the final fantasy spirit within did, pretty CG effects but plot killed, same Avatar, cool effects but again the plot killed the movie for me.

This why I hate it when people tell me that Avatar is the best movie they ever saw. Sure it had good special effects, but the Story and plot I thought was stupid.

[CptBomBom00]

Ha, I knew that out there are sensible people.

[marstor05]

Joe Michael Straczynski should write the movie, with David Fincher directing imo.

[Omega-202]

IsaacShep wrote...
But the KOTOR franchise AND Revan's story wasn't done. Kotor 2 set the stage for Kotor 3 that was already in pre-production at LucasArts and would obviously involve both Revan & the Exile. So Revan's canon gender was settled before the story wrapped. Not to mention, everyone expected 'canon gender/choices' to be established one day anyway from the beginning.

But it doesn't matter anyway. There's still no point other than $$$ in adapting ME1 into a movie.

A) The KotOR gaming franchise was all but dead.  3 was barely on the drawing board when 2 was released and after seeing how rushed and poorly polished 2 was, there was no way LucasArts was going to move forward with 3 any time soon as they knew they couldn't go back to Obsidian and expect that the fans would have just forgotten about the whole debacle (even though it wasn't Obsidian's fault).  

Sure, people expected a canon version of Revan to be established eventually.  A lot of people, including myself, expect that there's going to be a canon Shepard established eventually as well.  Its something I've been expecting to happen ever since my first playthrough of ME1.  

C) "There's still no point other than $$$ in adapting ME1 into a movie."  -  This is literally the stupidest thing I've read on BSN.  In that narrow view, there's no point to any venture in the entertainment industry beyond money.  The entire ME franchise was made in order to make money.  That's why the games, comics and books were all created: TO MAKE MONEY.  The movie will be no different.  Are you seriously going to argue that the games were made for charity?  Because I never received my free copy.  

Modifié par Omega-202, 02 novembre 2011 - 03:16 .

[CptBomBom00]

marstor05 wrote...

Joe Michael Straczynski should write the movie, with David Fincher directing imo.

Is he Polish?^^^

[Whatever42]

CptBomBom00 wrote...

DOOMED, you say, and if indeed its doomed, but lets hope that it doesn't **** up like the final fantasy spirit within did, pretty CG effects but plot killed, same Avatar, cool effects but again the plot killed the movie for me.

Yup. If its too bad, it can actually hurt the franchise. 

We all know, and its been said repeatedly, that it all comes down to getting a writer and director who can handle the material. We need someone who can develop a strong character-based dramatic plot, that just happens to be set in a cool space opera universe. 

The next best thing is to get some michael bay putz who can at least make it cool, even if its shallow.

But if we get the standard hollywood writers and director, its gonna go real, real bad.

Modifié par Whatever666343431431654324, 02 novembre 2011 - 03:30 .

[CptBomBom00]

We need some one with enough Testosterone and deep knowledge of ME universe to make this movie.

[shepskisaac]

Omega-202 wrote...
A) The KotOR gaming franchise was all but dead.  3 was barely on the drawing board when 2 was released and after seeing how rushed and poorly polished 2 was, there was no way LucasArts was going to move forward with 3 any time soon as they knew they couldn't go back to Obsidian and expect that the fans would have just forgotten about the whole debacle (even though it wasn't Obsidian's fault). 

What is this nonsense? Even with rushed ending, KOTOR 2 was still an acclaimed hit, selling millions of copies.

Omega-202 wrote...
Sure, people expected a canon version of Revan to be established eventually.  A lot of people, including myself, expect that there's going to be a canon Shepard established eventually as well.  Its something I've been expecting to happen ever since my first playthrough of ME1. 

The difference is that virtually everyone, not just some people, expected Revan/Exile to be canonized because it's been happening in Star Wars universe for years and there were countless other examples of establishing a canon story for the purpouse of future books/comics etc.

Omega-202 wrote...
C) "There's still no point other than $$$ in adapting ME1 into a movie."  -  This is literally the stupidest thing I've read on BSN.  In that narrow view, there's no point to any venture in the entertainment industry beyond money.  The entire ME franchise was made in order to make money.  That's why the games, comics and books were all created: TO MAKE MONEY.  The movie will be no different.  Are you seriously going to argue that the games were made for charity?  Because I never received my free copy. 

Of course money was one of the reasons, if not the primary one. But it was not the sole reason behind the creation of ME universe. BioWare DID wanted to make something of their own, create their own sci-fi universe. There was an artistic vision behind it. What artistic vision/idea of any kind is there behind making ME1 movie? There is some idea when you adapt a book into a movie since adapting a book into a film format adds something to the story - sound & motion image. What will ME1 Movie add to ME1 story?

[mulder1199]

LOLandStuff wrote...

FluffyScarf wrote...

ME1 and 2 had plenty of cheesy dialogue and explosions.

Cheesy Star Wars dialogue and 80% explosions. Also some alien side boob.

eff it, i'm in, that's good enough for me.....