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Why I canceled my ME3 Collectors Edition subscription (it broke my heart)


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Akon wrote...

Thats true but I hope Bioware still has some power of decision in this.

You can hope all you want.  EA is BioWare's publisher.  EA can and will do what they want when it comes to disribution of any games with their logo on it.  The only exception I can remotely see on that is SW:TOR and only because it is a Lucas Arts IP.

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I bought BF3 and I will say that Origin can go **** itself with a claw hammer.

Why do I have to launch the game from my web browser?
Why do I have to launch the game every single time I want to join a different server?
Why can't I skip the opening?

ME World at War is for sure going to be using the same model. The single player may not but it's still going to be launched from Origin.


you know you can launch the game and search for servers/quickmatch in game right? you don't have to launch from the battlog site, thats just an option...

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No, you can't

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I'm Canadian.... I approach encroachments on my privacy the same way we Canadians approach our politics & politicians.

"Meh, too lazy. Don't care."

Wish I could get more upset about Origin, as it sounds scumbaggy.... but I'm either getting too old to care or just being a typical Canuck.

I'll let the youngins get upset for me instead. ^_^

Modifié par Hathur, 31 octobre 2011 - 01:39 .


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I dont want people to cancel there ME3 subscription. I only want that the know whats going on.
We gamers have rights and we should use them.

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Jonathan Shepard wrote...

Wait, when was it confirmed that you would need Origin itself to play ME3? I knew about us needing an Origin account, but that's what we're using to access the BSN. As far as I know, you don't need to install Origin itself to play ME3 just yet...


I haven't seen it confirmed, but I'd consider it a virtual certainty since its required to install older games on your PC. I bought a copy of ME1 two years ago, before ME2 came out and it used the EA installer. This time when I was re-installing ME1 on my PC I had to install Origin along with it or I couldn't play ME.

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Hathur wrote...

I'm Canadian.... I approach encroachments on my privacy the same way we Canadians approach our politics & politicians.

"Meh, too lazy. Don't care."

Wish I could get more upset about Origin, as it sounds scumbaggy.... but I'm either getting too old to care or just being a typical Canuck.

I'll let the youngins get upset for me instead. ^_^


and that its the biggest problem with my fellow canadians.... thats why we are taxed up to our asses because the majority of canadians just don't think they can do anything. That attitude has to change. Origin needs to be exposed to the government and the privacy laws they seem to openly break. Call you MP, make a difference.

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Akon wrote...

 It was a hard deciosion. Mass Effect is my most liked game series, but as long as Origin scans my disk (even medical softwares are scanned) this is no way. There is proof for this on youtube and other websites.

I hope EA will changes this or Bioware is going without Origin for the Single-player.

Let me know if it is without and my suscription is back in a second.

Please Bioware. I love you games. Dont let EA ruin you!

Unite against Origin. If we are enough, than they will hear US!

(and yes I know enough to protect my pc from what origin does, but I wont allow something like origin on my PC)


If you dont want to play ME3 on the PC. Why not give the Xbox 360 version of ME3 a try. Then you could still enjoy ME1, ME2, and ME3.

Modifié par WolfForce99, 31 octobre 2011 - 01:50 .


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You people are a pack of whiners. Ohhh boohoo you canceled your reservation because of the EA steam, everyone should pat you on the shoulder and let you cry it out!!! Listen they're not harming your system they as a company wish to use this to streamline efforts. Sorry to tell you but disks are being phased out. It's part of staying competitive in this bogged market.

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Durgon Ironfist wrote...

You people are a pack of whiners. Ohhh boohoo you canceled your reservation because of the EA steam, everyone should pat you on the shoulder and let you cry it out!!! Listen they're not harming your system they as a company wish to use this to streamline efforts. Sorry to tell you but disks are being phased out. It's part of staying competitive in this bogged market.


There is no good reason for origins to scan pc, and no good reason to require it to play the game, that's the problem. 

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XyleJKH wrote...

Hathur wrote...

I'm Canadian.... I approach encroachments on my privacy the same way we Canadians approach our politics & politicians.

"Meh, too lazy. Don't care."

Wish I could get more upset about Origin, as it sounds scumbaggy.... but I'm either getting too old to care or just being a typical Canuck.

I'll let the youngins get upset for me instead. ^_^


and that its the biggest problem with my fellow canadians.... thats why we are taxed up to our asses because the majority of canadians just don't think they can do anything. That attitude has to change. Origin needs to be exposed to the government and the privacy laws they seem to openly break. Call you MP, make a difference.


But.... but..... but then I wouldn't be a proper Canadian anymore.... I'd be some sort of awful... freak. :mellow:

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vader da slayer wrote...

ParkerArt wrote...

I bought BF3 and I will say that Origin can go **** itself with a claw hammer.

Why do I have to launch the game from my web browser?
Why do I have to launch the game every single time I want to join a different server?
Why can't I skip the opening?

ME World at War is for sure going to be using the same model. The single player may not but it's still going to be launched from Origin.


you know you can launch the game and search for servers/quickmatch in game right? you don't have to launch from the battlog site, thats just an option...


No, you can't.

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Im not whiney. I just dont buy spyware. Maybe you have no private data.
Others have and thats only there bussines.

Games getting expencive, intrusive and now spy on us. I just say its enough.
(sometimes they make big problems because of DRM and why ? To protect us ? I dont think so)

Playing a ileage copy is getting easyer than the original ? Something is rong...

Modifié par Akon, 31 octobre 2011 - 02:06 .


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Durgon Ironfist wrote...

You people are a pack of whiners. Ohhh boohoo you canceled your reservation because of the EA steam, everyone should pat you on the shoulder and let you cry it out!!! Listen they're not harming your system they as a company wish to use this to streamline efforts. Sorry to tell you but disks are being phased out. It's part of staying competitive in this bogged market.


Oh, Origin can do a LOT more than that.

However...take note that just because Origin CAN view or access something, that doesn't mean that it will.

EA is a BIG company, with a LOT of high-priced lawyers.

The moment Origin/EA accessed or released something that they shouldn't have, that relates to a customer, that's a potential lawsuit, and that's when they have to pay their lawyers the big bucks.

EA doesn't want to have to pay for the lawsuit, nor do they want the kind of publicity that would come with it, it would ruin them, or at the very least it would severely cut their profits.

Look up BF3 for PC on UK's Amazon.

http://amazon.uk.com/

TWO stars with 160 ratings, and nearly all the bad ratings are regarding origin.

BF3 is a huge money maker for EA. Shareholders will look at those stars and the comment,s realize that it might make potential money-cows(customers) move on without buying, and demand change.

I prefer to view it as a Cold War.

Modifié par KainrycKarr, 31 octobre 2011 - 02:32 .


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The number one reason I don't like Origin is that it screws those of us over who live in areas where high speed internet is not yet available.

Of course, I hate Steam and Battle.net for the same reasons.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 31 octobre 2011 - 02:13 .


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AdmiralCheez wrote...

The number one reason I don't like Origin is that it screws those of us over who live in areas where high speed internet is not yet available.

Of course, I hate Steam and Battle.net for the same reasons.


I'll be thoroughly perturbed if Origin requires a constant net access.... it's the main reason I refuse to buy any Ubisoft games for PC (they require always on internet connection as a form of DRM).

To be fair however, Steam can be switched to offline mode and so long as you don't re-enable it you never need a net connection to play your games (except the 1 time you install the game... but once that's done, switch to offline mode... leave it in offline mode and you never need to have a net connection to play your steam games again).

Modifié par Hathur, 31 octobre 2011 - 02:15 .


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I'm actually all for a company wanting to protect it's product but it's getting more and more silly.
The big companies have as I see it done, if the rumors is right, a illegal action against people. Moreover, it doesn't effect the pirate community that much since they can crack it in a matter of a week or so. What I don't like is that we need to install a program that is spying on my computer. I don't have any proof of that only from rumors. I have learned to base my judgement on true fact so I'm not going to cancel my preorder yet.

No to piracy and no for spy programs for honest people.

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I have a bad news Akon my friend change the name of the Topic or some Moderator or other EA "tool" will lock it out for not being ME 3 related seriously that me advice. They say thing like sorry that you canceled your pre-order and some bla bla bla and then lock the topic they done the same when player's start to canceled pre-order of DA 2. Durgon Ironfist if you don't have anything good to say then say nothing.

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My last Origin thread was closed after 3 posts. Im impressed that this one is still open.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

The number one reason I don't like Origin is that it screws those of us over who live in areas where high speed internet is not yet available.

Of course, I hate Steam and Battle.net for the same reasons.


And see, that's a totally legitimate reason for not liking any of those services. A lot of the other reasons you see for the massive amounts of hate are just people bandwagoning with tin foil hats.

Despite what Origin might be able to do, EA isn't going to go digging through everyone's personal and sensitive data just for kicks. It's just too many lawsuits waiting to happen, regardless of any TOS or EULA in place. And for what it's worth, this is coming from someone that runs an entire business off of his PC, so my computer is chock full of sensitive business info that I'm confident that EA isn't going to go digging through and sell because of legal issues.

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There's also a clause in the terms and conditions which means that means you're not allowed to sue EA if they do something wrong. Look here:

http://kotaku.com/5843178/

So, if someone does hack the Origin update servers and your computer gets patch-hacked into transmitting your credit details to the Chinese government, it's not EA's problem.

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Rokku-X wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

The number one reason I don't like Origin is that it screws those of us over who live in areas where high speed internet is not yet available.

Of course, I hate Steam and Battle.net for the same reasons.


And see, that's a totally legitimate reason for not liking any of those services. A lot of the other reasons you see for the massive amounts of hate are just people bandwagoning with tin foil hats.

Despite what Origin might be able to do, EA isn't going to go digging through everyone's personal and sensitive data just for kicks. It's just too many lawsuits waiting to happen, regardless of any TOS or EULA in place. And for what it's worth, this is coming from someone that runs an entire business off of his PC, so my computer is chock full of sensitive business info that I'm confident that EA isn't going to go digging through and sell because of legal issues.


This guy, he has some sense.

And on another note, didn't we get a tweet two to three weeks ago that we CAN play the singleplayer campaign offline?

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Akon wrote...

My last Origin thread was closed after 3 posts. Im impressed that this one is still open.


Don't worry. I'm fairly certain that this thread will be locked soon as well. Mostly because there already is an Origins thread active in regards to ME3.

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Good thing the german Costumer Protection is currently investigating in how Origins may violate constituted laws in germany and may declare some points of the EA policy void. And the chances for exactly that happening are pretty high to be honest. So unless EA wants to lose one of the biggest markets in central europe, they'd have slacken their scanning by a large margin.


That or either some people find a way to bypass the scanning routine or feed dummy data to it as the people bypassed Ubisoft's allegedly unhackable copy protection.

*Legal disclaimer*

I do in no way condone piracy and theft of intellectual property, I merely state a statistically most probable situation without inherent judgement by my person, both legal and physical.




^Just in case I dip too much into the "No piracy" rule in here. But to convey a more complete display of the situation, that has to be said.



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Godwhacker wrote...

There's also a clause in the terms and conditions which means that means you're not allowed to sue EA if they do something wrong. Look here:

http://kotaku.com/5843178/

So, if someone does hack the Origin update servers and your computer gets patch-hacked into transmitting your credit details to the Chinese government, it's not EA's problem.



Oh please, ... as if that would have ANY impact at all. That is only a nominal demotivator that is meant to scar away those people that are yet on the edge of deciding what to do.
If such phrases had any relevance, half the worlds less stupid thieve would run about in t-sharts stating they are legally prohibited by prosecution to their crimes no matter what. I want to see the day when a single one like that would actually get past even a single vigilant bypasser or policeman Image IPB

Modifié par Neofelis Nebulosa, 31 octobre 2011 - 03:07 .


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Personally I'm gonna wait until it's officially announced that ME3 will need Origin to play, THEN cancel my preorder and go with option 2.

BTW, you misspelled 'canceled'

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 31 octobre 2011 - 07:27 .