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Can Mass Effect survive after Comander Shepard


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Abraham_uk

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Whether Shepard died during the trilogy, survived, or ME 4 is set long after ME 3, one thing is for certain. Comander Shepard won't be in it.

What happens next?

A new protagonist for another trilogy?
Dragon Age style new protagonist each entry into the series?
An MMO RPG?
Call Of Duty style game?
A game that set during the Shepard trilogy seeing Shepard's actions from a different point of view.
Star Wars Battlefront style game?
A new writing team take over, with Casy Hudson and his crew looking at other projects?
Or a spritual successor?


I'd personally like know what you think.

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I believe that the new character 'James Vega' will serve the protege role in the new Mass Effect 3 game, and that he'll be the new protagonist if Bioware decides to release a new game.

Consider:
Anderson was the protagonist in a number of books for the Mass Effect universe, and he serves at the Mentor for Shepard in the games. Shepard, the game protagonist, could possibly serve the role of 'Mentor' to Vega during the last game of the trilogy. It follows the pattern of succession, it would make sense that Vega would serve as the new protagonist should the opportunity arise. In my opinion, Anderson specifically chose Vega to act as Shepard's Warden because they have similar stories.

Shepard and Vega (implied) both were f*cked over by the Alliance in one way or another, at one point in time or another. Or maybe Vega's mental and emotional circumstances are unique like Shepard's are and require that unique perspective to help him get through it. I don't know, but I just have the feeling that if the pattern follows and if my theory pans out then Vega'll be the new protagonist...

So, yea, kind of like CoD Modern Warfare and Warfare 2's way of doing things. With Soap and Price.

Modifié par Aurora313, 01 novembre 2011 - 12:53 .


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Abraham_uk

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In which case we'll see Jame Vega in ME 4. That sounds awesome.

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^ I agree with you on that. I also noticed this "wheel of succession" after I read the ME books. I think it's a plausible choice that Vega will be the new "Shepard".

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It make no difference to me if the Mass Effect series continues or not. Once Shepard's story has concluded, I will no longer be following it.

Modifié par DJRackham, 01 novembre 2011 - 01:05 .


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That's a rather negative attitude. Not trying to be chiding or something, but wouldn't you rather just keep your eye on any new games for the Mass Effect universe, see if anything happens that might interest you?

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As far as I'm concerned, Shepard is Mass Effect. Once that chapter has closed, I do not see myself continuing with anonymous space marine James Vega in what will likely turn into another generic "me too" multiplayer death match shooter with a tacked on single player "training" campaign.

Modifié par DJRackham, 01 novembre 2011 - 02:52 .


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I agree with him. When Shepard's story is concluded, I couldn't care less any more, I learned it the hard way with Metal Gear Solid.

Personally, I'd love to see ME MMO, but that is highly unlikely, seeing Bioware already has The Old Republic, so unless it falls flat which I'm quite sure it won't I'm quite sure nothing spectacular will happen in ME department.

I support my "pessimism" with the fact that all outside game content that doesn't feature Commander Shepard is atrocious and a complete waste of time. I'd prefer ME to stop after 3rd one, but that's being highly optimistic, seeing Bioware is good in the business of video games and it would be foolish of them to kill the chicken who lays the golden eggs on some silly principle of what people would call "nostalgia".

Another "Commander Shepard" would also be a terrible idea.

Modifié par diamondedge, 01 novembre 2011 - 01:25 .


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Aurora313

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Well, that's your opinion and I respect it :)

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Wow. Getting some bad vibes here.

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Ideas on the subject are mixed. I would tag along because of curiosity (and as a young woman, I believe that Vega is attractive.), also because I'm curious to see just how much of a hell the galaxy will be with the scars of the Reaper Invasion still fresh in its mind.

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Abraham_uk wrote...

Wow. Getting some bad vibes here.

Merely a reality. Money really does corrupt people and is there any other reason than profit to drag on a story that has been long concluded?

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Shepard is Mass Effect once ME 3 is done so will I be done with Mass Effect, its just like some of the other games like sonic and his friends but its sonic who is the star of the games then you have mario brother and legend of zelda but you play as link. For me the only exception where I don't care if the main character is in a video game series anymore is Metal Gear Solid. I've been a fan of Metal Gear Solid for a few years and I like Solid Snake but I prefer Raiden more than Solid Snake.

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diamondedge wrote...

I agree with him. When Shepard's story is concluded, I couldn't care less any more, I learned it the hard way with Metal Gear Solid.


Being a fan of MGS I'm rather curious as to what you mean by this.

As far as Mass Effect I have my own ideas about how the universe continues (subject to change by ME3) and thus it is difficult to say if I will be interested in future works set in it. Right now I dislike the very idea of Vega in any sort of capacity. The character may grow on me in ME3 but right now, he's just taking up space that could be taken by a character I already like. No need to get into this though I know the arguments for new characters and I don't deny them. It's an emotional response, not a logical one. That being said I would prefer another unknown character to be the new hero in a new game/series.

Edit-By the way given that Bioware refuses to set a canon Shepard because they want each player to have their own Shepard as canon for themselves I doubt we'll see Shepard in any sort of mentor role.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 01 novembre 2011 - 01:55 .


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Thing is, Bioware tried that with Dragon Age 2. In my humble opinion,that did not work out so great, especially since you were confined to being either a male or female human. Imagine fighting as a Qunari.

Sure, you had a wonderful history, and Malcolm Hawke the father was pretty much a badass, but it still wasn't my favourite idea.

edit: But Shepard serves that role anyway. Look at Garrus in ME1, or really any squadmate really. You can either mentor them as a Paragon, or make them more paranoid as a Renagade and encourage renagade-type thinking. Depending on whether or not your paragon or renagade has always affected how you spoke to you're 'mates. 

Modifié par Aurora313, 01 novembre 2011 - 01:58 .


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Aurora313 wrote...

I believe that the new character 'James Vega' will serve the protege role in the new Mass Effect 3 game, and that he'll be the new protagonist if Bioware decides to release a new game.


Sucks to be female then, I guess.

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@Paars, what do you mean by that?

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CrutchCricket wrote...

diamondedge wrote...

I agree with him. When Shepard's story is concluded, I couldn't care less any more, I learned it the hard way with Metal Gear Solid.


Being a fan of MGS I'm rather curious as to what you mean by this.

As far as Mass Effect I have my own ideas about how the universe continues (subject to change by ME3) and thus it is difficult to say if I will be interested in future works set in it. Right now I dislike the very idea of Vega in any sort of capacity. The character may grow on me in ME3 but right now, he's just taking up space that could be taken by a character I already like. No need to get into this though I know the arguments for new characters and I don't deny them. It's an emotional response, not a logical one. That being said I would prefer another unknown character to be the new hero in a new game/series.

Edit-By the way given that Bioware refuses to set a canon Shepard because they want each player to have their own Shepard as canon for themselves I doubt we'll see Shepard in any sort of mentor role.



You're a fan of MGS to? So far I have all of the MGS games and my favorite MGS games are MGS 2: Sons of Liberty play as Raiden and MGS 4: guns of the patriot and the new badass raiden.

I could go either way on the canon shepard part of me agrees about not setting a canon shepard but then the other part would much rather have a set canon main character that you play as in some games out there.

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How long do Asari live? Hmmmm?

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I think, about a thousand years or so.

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The real question is - will Commander Shepard survive after Mass Effect

Modifié par liesandpropaganda, 01 novembre 2011 - 02:05 .


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Depends on how the multi player is. An MMO would be really successful with a universe as rich in lore as Mass Effect is. However, Bioware's realm is RPGs. I doubt they will go into the CoD realm. perhaps a new protagonist like they did with Dragon Age?

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Yes, this is true. Bioware aren't afraid to kill anyone in ME is seems. So Shepard's survival is not guaranteed either.

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Aurora313 wrote...
edit: But Shepard serves that role anyway. Look at Garrus in ME1, or really any squadmate really. You can either mentor them as a Paragon, or make them more paranoid as a Renagade and encourage renagade-type thinking. Depending on whether or not your paragon or renagade has always affected how you spoke to you're 'mates. 


I'm not saying he's incapable of being a mentor. I'm saying you won't see Shepard as an NPC because that would mean Bioware would have to create him/her outside of what the player creates. And they don't want to do that because they want Shepard to be you (or at least your character).

seirhart wrote...
You're a fan of MGS to? So far I have all of
the MGS games and my favorite MGS games are MGS 2: Sons of Liberty play
as Raiden and MGS 4: guns of the patriot and the new badass raiden.


Yep, so much so in fact that I recently bought a Gamecube for the sole reason of playing Twin Snakes. I like MGS2 (not a Raiden hater) as well for its gameplay but I like the story of MGS 1 more. Put the two together...<3

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 01 novembre 2011 - 02:12 .


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I'm not a fan of spin-offs, but the ME universe is too big to simply let die.

Wouldn't it be whacky if the next game in the series was a massive semi-open-world RPG with a silent protagonist whom you could choose the race of?