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[Nashiktal]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

jreezy wrote...

DarkDragon777 wrote...

I though that ME1 was longer than ME2.....

It's not.

They're roughly equal, and that's after hacking to get rid of planet scanning.

I don't know cheeze, ME1 if you just do the story mission is pretty damn short. ME2 is actually a bit longer. Granted this is not accounting for perfect endings and yaddy yadda.

[Nashiktal]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

"It's like the Superbowl. Who cares what happened in the regular season? Now's the one that matters."

Sigh...

Ow my heart....

[Ricinator]

SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

DarkDragon777 wrote...

Ricinator wrote...

 because the game is 3x longer than Me1.

I don't think so.

Didn't bioware said it was comparable in length to ME2?

I think Casey said it may actually be longer than ME2

Me3 will be equal or greater length to me2. Me1 is about 6-8hours while me2 was roughly 24

Modifié par Ricinator, 02 novembre 2011 - 01:09 .

[Nashiktal]

I hate putting a number on ME1 or ME2. We would all have to accept a standard for accepting time measurement. Should we count sidequest? Vehicle exploration? Collections? Scanning? DLC?

Modifié par Nashiktal, 02 novembre 2011 - 01:11 .

[Thompson family]

Good Lord. I went to heat up a bowl of leftovers and this thread grew by a page.

[shepskisaac]

Nashiktal wrote...

I would dare say the games are already accesible. I went into AC2 with little knowledge of what happened in AC1. I got wrapped up into ezio's story.

...Actually come to think of it ubisoft did a good job of making the game accesible without forcing you to play AC1.

But that was a jump from AC1 to AC2. Before AC3, there'll be also Brotherhood and Revelations. 4 games worth of developing story. Perhaps Ubisoft will relay solely on the existing fanbase, but if they will want to bring anyone new, they will have to make it a bit more accessible than AC2 was. People are scared of jumping into franchise they know can have already complicated lore. That's one of the reasons audiences lik reboots, they don't have to worry about not knowing the lore and previous events.

[Ricinator]

Nashiktal wrote...

I hate putting a number on ME1 or ME2. We would all have to accept a standard for accepting time measurement. Should we count sidequest? Vehicle exploration? Collections? Scanning? DLC?

counting story only me1 6-8, me2 20-24

[Balek-Vriege]

Ghost-621 wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

RolandX9 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

"It's like the Superbowl. Who cares what happened in the regular season? Now's the one that matters."

Sigh...

+1. Stupidest Bioware marketing quote thus far, considering that the whole effing draw for the majority of people buying this game will be to finish what we started. You know, actions, consequences, that sort of thing? I really hope no one there actually thinks that a galaxy-wide war is comparable to one football game. If it weren't for ME1, I wouldn't even be looking at ME3.

Quoted for the truth.

It's a good thing people can cancel their preorders up to day of release...because I don't see ME3 being a true "Mass Effect."

Define what you think a 'true mass effect' game is, and why ME2 apparently wasn't one and why you don't think ME3 will be. 

Actually, don't bother - you're probably wrong.

What made Mass Effect 1 good? The characters, the setting, the interaction, the dialogue and the story. Everything else - the combat, the poor AI, the badly implemented inventory that actually added very little, the graphical hiccups and the recycling of environments - these were all bad points, and ME2 improved on all of those bad points while keeping all the things that made ME1 a 'mass effect' game. ME3 is keeping all the stuff ME2, while bringing back the inventory in a way that actually works. It has all the components of ME1, yet you don't think its going to be a 'true mass effect' game?

"I'm probably wrong." You're adorable, my opinion makes me wrong.

Could the combat in ME1 have been a little better? Yes, it wasn't perfect, but you actually had to use your head, and your squadmates on higher difficulties. ME2 had the fast-paced pew-pew GOW combat that people like you wanted. Everything else was stripped bare, and the vast majority of our efforts in the first were adressed by an email.

No, ME2 did not have all of the components ME1 did. Not even close.

In short, no, I don't think ME3 will be a Mass Effect game. It looks like a Space GOW with some dead-space death scenes and a dialogue wheel.

For fans of the series, think twice before you invest that $60, because I'm willing to bet mine that those hours upon hours of choices and gaming won't matter for crap in ME3. It would scare off the teenagers.

ME1 combat was much easier and simplistic compared to ME2.  You could take out endless amounts of mobs without any cover or effort, rely on one uber power like Barrier or Immunity all while on the hardest difficulty setting.  What ME1 had over ME2 was the biotic ragdollness and open (but bland) areas.  In reality ME1 and ME2 combat wasn't what it should have been.  Same goes for powers and skills.  Hopefully ME3 finds the best of both worlds (and seems to be heading in that direction ).

As for Mass Effect 3 being a Space GOW, I will have to wait and see on that one.  I'm not going to judge the whole game based off the first 3 minutes of action gameplay on Earth (which was awsome) and one 10-15min part of a mission (which was ok/informative then awsome near the end).  It's pretty obvious Bioware is not revealing any more plot than that on purpose for spoiler reasons.

[nutshell43]

Thompson family wrote...
Then show a mirror on the Game of the Year Awards and the reviews.

Why? They aren't relevant to the discussion at all.

A 25 percent increase in sales, lots of new revenues in DLC and the green light for a big-budget sequel with a hypekrieg marketing campaign and expensive added features  is "pretty much failed" by that logic.

No hablos Ingles?
1. For the third time: A 25% increase is not impressive compared to the market as a whole and given ME2's massive makeover.
2. ME1 had just 2 DLCs and one was free on PC. Also DLC sales in 2008 were a lot lower for everyone.
3. ME was always touted to be a trilogy.
4. *ME1* was followed by the "green light for a big-budget sequel with a hypekrieg marketing campaign and expensive added features", so it's hardly an improvement.
5. "pretty much failed"
You *really* don't speak English, do you?
> ME2's makeover to increase its appeal for the casual market pretty much failed
Nowhere did I say that ME2 "pretty much failed".

Yes, I agree with you that the hardcore audience is a rapidly declining niche market.

You *really* don't speak English, do you?

Nowhere did I say that the hardcore audience is declining, just that they didn't buy ME2.

Then show me better numbers, nutshell43. I'd be glad of it.

You *really* don't speak English, do you?

As I wrote in the very quote you replied to: Just make **** up. It's just as accurate as vgchartz.

[Foryou]

I wish CNN commented on their post as much

[Ofcoursenot]

Ricinator wrote...
 Me1 is about 6-8hours while me2 was roughly 24

Loyalty missions do not count, the game can technically be finished without them. That puts it even less. If I was going to let everyone die and get the worst possible ending, I could do it in about 11 hours.

[Ricinator]

Ofcoursenot wrote...

Ricinator wrote...
 Me1 is about 6-8hours while me2 was roughly 24

Loyalty missions do not count, the game can technically be finished without them. That puts it even less. If I was going to let everyone die and get the worst possible ending, I could do it in about 11 hours.

ok sure but do you kill your team everytime? i think not

[Ofcoursenot]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Ofcoursenot wrote...
I sometimes read magazines stoned. Especially things I don't normally read. Those tabloid mags are mind blowing if you're baked.

lol. I don't do drugs.

Well, doing them isnt exactly something I'm uber proud of. I don't really have a problem anymore, either. When I DO indulge, though, it's every few months and I make an occasion out of it.

Trust me, stoned gaming and moviegoing is an experience weirder than a child's first dentist visit.

[Ofcoursenot]

Ricinator wrote...

Ofcoursenot wrote...

Ricinator wrote...
 Me1 is about 6-8hours while me2 was roughly 24

Loyalty missions do not count, the game can technically be finished without them. That puts it even less. If I was going to let everyone die and get the worst possible ending, I could do it in about 11 hours.

ok sure but do you kill your team everytime? i think not

No, but you have to lok at it barebones. You can complete ME1 quickly, with no consequences. You must treat them the same. Of course you will do more than the basics. So will most players on most playthroughs.

[Ofcoursenot]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Ofcoursenot wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Ofcoursenot wrote...
I sometimes read magazines stoned. Especially things I don't normally read. Those tabloid mags are mind blowing if you're baked.

lol. I don't do drugs.

Well, doing them isnt exactly something I'm uber proud of. I don't really have a problem anymore, either. When I DO indulge, though, it's every few months and I make an occasion out of it.

Trust me, stoned gaming and moviegoing is an experience weirder than a child's first dentist visit.

I believe you.

Speaking of drugs, I wonder if we will be encountering the "biotic god" again in ME3...

[sympathyforsaren]

Can you imagine swarms....and I mean by the hundreds....of 12 and 13 year old Call of Duty fans who LOVE to just shoot (not individuals who enjoy both genres) clamoring here on BSN begging for "less talking" and "romances" and "screens with stats" and asking for "sick death guns", "more guns and better shotties", "sicker enemies", "less cutscenes, more action" and "more focus on multiplayer deathmatches".

These individuals would almost unanimously control and dictate what is/isn't in any future Mass Effect game.

[Valdrane78]

Chris Priestly wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...
I'm not "trying" to do anything. The guy said what he said, I just quoted him. I'm not putting words in his mouth, nor am I taking any out, unless you think that he meant something other than ME1&2 when he referred to "the regular season"? In which case please tell me what he meant.

Yes you are. You are putting words in Aaryn's mouth in your post as he never said what you quoted him as saying. "Who cares what happened in [ME1&2]? " Hewas making a football analogy what you are deliberately misquoteing and misinterpreting.

I am done speaking with you as you are deliberately trying to distort the meaning and claiming you are not. You can tell you are because you couldn't post the actual quote and keep your take on teh meaning to be true.

Okie dokie, here is the exact quote and guess what, you are both wrong.

"Certainly it's a very polished experience. In the story it starts at a
time with a very singular focus and purpose in the galaxy. You could say
the previous games were just a preamble to this moment. Everything has
been building to this. It's like the Superbowl. Who cares what happened
in the regular season? Now's the one that matters."


While he did make the football analogy, he did not say that ME 1 and 2 were in effect fodder.  However, from what it sounds like, that is exactly what he is saying.  He is compairing the regular season to ME1 and 2, and he is saying that the regular season doesn't matter now that we have been through the playoffs and are now in the superbowl.

Point in fact, everything you do and accomplish in the regular season (keeping with the analogy here) has a direct effect on how you play in the post season, and to ignore that is foolhardy at best. And since there are over 1000 points of data that are going to be transfered from Me1 and 2 to ME3, I would say that ME1 and 2 are incredibly important, and will have a much bigger impact on the game than if you didn't play them at all.

To ignore ME1 and 2 is to ignore a rich history in the Mass Effect universe.

[GMagnum]

dam i jus rolled a fat ass blunt n e 1 want a puff